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Started by NextYear, Mar 19, 02:42 AM 2016

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Celticknits

Quote from: nottophammer on May 27, 12:43 PM 2016
Now whilst waiting for Mrs hammer i thought i'd look at Celtics auto wheel, interblock. only got 29 spins, but fast non-hit, the zero made us laugh hit 34 bounced, hit 26 then rolled into the zero.
1 19
2 21
3 2
4 32
5 18
6 6
7 20
8 24
9 4
10 34
11 9
12 19
13 7
14 5
15 36
16 10
17 27
18 25
19 16
20 17
21 3
22 36
23 16
24 12
25 33
26 33
27 27
28 30
29 0


Ah memories of my old Interbloc machine.

Not sure if I would have quit with 4 Single Repeats still due in the next 8 spins.

-Celtic
'Sometimes it is best to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt'

Celticknits

Here is the payout sheet for Nottos 28May16 Jackpot247 numbers.

Posting these is not an effort as I run Nottos numbers all the time anyways but I find it unusual that nobody asks questions.
Maybe nobody is watching????

Can anybody, other than Notto, answer these two questions on today's Jackpot247 numbers.
1)   After the repeat on spin 18 can you see why I went back to tracking?
2)   After the Repeat on spin 22 can you see why I started betting again?

-Celtic


JACKPOT247   28MAY16
Bet Repeats using G.U.T., Averages, and the Count
S # R Bet P Stake Won Net Total
1 19
2 8
3 34
4 18
5 31
6 27
7 23
8 28
9 24
10 10 10/10
11 12
12 35
13 12 R1
14 7
15 9
16 10 R1 13 1 13 36 23 23
17 6 12 1 12 -12 11
18 31 R1 13 2 26 72 46 57
19 10 R2 57
20 32 57
21 22 57
22 24 R1 57
23 18 R1 13 1 13 36 23 80         ---   Win/Stop reached so QUIT!!!
24 32 R1 12 1 12 36 24 104
25 25 11 1 11 -11 93
26 18 R2 12 2 24 -24 69
27 16 12 3 36 -36 33
28 26 12 4 48 -48 -15
29 6 R1 12 5 60 180 120 105
30 0 11 1 11 -11 94
31 24 R2 11 2 22 -22 72
32 20 11 3 33 -33 39
33 13 11 4 44 -44 -5
34 18 R3 11 5 55 -55 -60
35 8 R1 11 6 66 216 150 90
36 20 RX 10 1 10 -10 80
37 29 10 2 20 -20 60
NOTE:  R>R1 Designates numbers already repeated
Rx Designates numbers Repeated but not bet on

'Sometimes it is best to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt'

NextYear

Thanks Celtic!

1. You stopped at spin 18, because only 6 (payable repeats) remains in next 19 spins...
2. You continued at spin 23, because we now still except 6 PR (Payable Repeat) in next 15 spins...

Or am I right?

Celticknits

Quote from: NextYear on May 28, 01:38 PM 2016
Thanks Celtic!

1. You stopped at spin 18, because only 6 (payable repeats) remains in next 19 spins...

I do not understand your reasoning. When would you know to start rebetting?
Remember when you make a decision know why you are making it and what you are planning down the road.
I stopped betting after spin 18 because the Single Repeat Averages were met, I am up +57 already and I want the tracking numbers to be a little better than they are. If all hell breaks loose then I will just bail out with my +57 and start again.


2. You continued at spin 23, because we now still except 6 PR (Payable Repeat) in next 15 spins...

Actually there are only five payable single repeats left according to the Averages, because one of the six just hit and we were not betting.
I started rebetting because most of the payable Single Repeats, USUALLY, happen in spins 21-30, there are only 8  spins left in that block and I still have 5 payable Single Repeats I am counting on due.
I say Usually because we are gambling and things can change. We just have to re-evaluate and adjust accordingly if they do.


Or am I right?

-Nextyear

See my comments above in Red.

Here is the payout sheet for Nottos Jackpot247 29May16 numbers.

-Celtic


JACKPOT247   29MAY16
Bet Repeats using G.U.T., Averages, Count
S # R Bet P Stake Won Net Total
1 7
2 6
3 4
4 35
5 3
6 4 R1
7 34
8 35 R1
9 36
10 29 8/10
11 20
12 29 R1
13 14
14 28
15 28 R1
16 23
17 5
18 30
19 29 R2 10 1 10 -10 -10
20 11 10 2 20 -20 -30
21 14 R1 11 3 33 108 75 45
22 26 10 2 20 -20 25
23 4 R2 11 3 33 -33 -8
24 24 11 4 44 -44 -52
25 11 R1 12 5 60 180 120 68      --- Considered quitting at this point with 2/3 of my
26 21 11 1 11 -11 57           payable Single Repeats already here...KTF
27 13 11 2 22 -22 35
28 1 11 3 33 -33 2
29 2 11 4 44 -44 -42
30 34 R1 11 5 55 180 125 83       --- Win/Stop reached so QUIT!!!
31 2 RX 10 1 10 -10 73
32 35 R2 9 2 18 -18 55
33 17 9 3 27 -27 28
34 9 9 4 36 -36 -8
35 5 R1 9 5 45 180 135 127
36 5 R2 8 1 8 -8 119
37 24 R1 8 2 16 72 56 175
NOTE:  R>R1 Designates numbers already repeated
Rx Designates numbers Repeated but not bet on

'Sometimes it is best to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt'

NextYear

Thanks for explanation, Celtic!

Today I would expect you to start after spin 20, as you have 4 repeats at 18 spins?!

Celticknits

Quote from: NextYear on May 29, 08:28 AM 2016
Thanks for explanation, Celtic!

Today I would expect you to start after spin 20, as you have 4 repeats at 18 spins?!

After spin 18 Averages say there still could be 1 Single Repeat in the next 2 spins (50%) and the GUT tracking is also good.
Well the Repeat came as expected but unfortuanately it was Multiple Repeat but that just puts me closer to hitting the Single Repeats.
That is why I started betting where I did.

-Celtic

'Sometimes it is best to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt'

nottophammer

jackpot247 30.5.16
1 28
2 31
3 25
4 9
5 0
6 22
7 22
8 14
9 11
10 17
11 27
12 19
13 23
14 20
15 19
16 27
17 21
18 27
19 34
20 33
21 15
22 32
23 24
24 12
25 21
26 29
27 30
28 9
29 7
30 27
31 33
32 34
33 19
34 30
35 28
36 31
37 14
38 8
39 30
40 5
41 35
42 1
43 36
44 19
45 6
46 12
47 18
48 16
49 3
50 34
51 3
52 13
53 17
54 7
55 26
56 4
57 31
58 9
59 4
60 33

61 21
62 7
63 6
64 23
65 9
66 16
67 23
68 33
69 10
70 15
71 9
72 24
73 17
74 13
75 10
76 36
How do you win at roulette, simple, make the right decision

tuddilue

Quote from: Celticknits on May 28, 01:16 PM 2016
Here is the payout sheet for Nottos 28May16 Jackpot247 numbers.

Posting these is not an effort as I run Nottos numbers all the time anyways but I find it unusual that nobody asks questions.
Maybe nobody is watching????

Can anybody, other than Notto, answer these two questions on today's Jackpot247 numbers.
1)   After the repeat on spin 18 can you see why I went back to tracking?
2)   After the Repeat on spin 22 can you see why I started betting again?

-Celtic

Also answered your questions and I also had a question:

Why start at spin 15? Is it because of 13 1x and that you know that in 11-20 the average is 7 so 2 repeaters is left?
1) Answer: That is because the average is 7 and you now that already 3 repeaters has been hit.
2) Answer: You start because 1 repeater is hit and G.U.T is saying that 0 vs >0 is going to cross. Then you also have 5 repeaters left in this cycle.

- Tuddilue

Celticknits

Quote from: tuddilue on May 30, 07:09 AM 2016
Also answered your questions and I also had a question:

Why start at spin 15? I started at 16 Is it because of 13 14 1x have come 1x and that you know that in 11-20 the average is 7 so 2 repeaters is left YES!!!?
1) Answer: That is because the average is 7 and you now that already 3 repeaters has been hit.  YES --- GOLD STAR!!!
2) Answer: You start because 1 repeater is hit and G.U.T is saying that 0 vs >0 is going to cross. Then you also have 5 repeaters left in this cycle.   YES --- GOLD STAR!!!

- Tuddilue

-Tuddi

See the corrections in red.

The answers you gave to the two questions I posed were spot on.
I think you have got it but slow down and take it one step at a time.
Making a 1 digit mistake when tracking with GUT can mean the difference between betting on the next spin or just keeping on tracking.

Thank you for taking the time to answer the questions I posed.

-Celtic
'Sometimes it is best to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt'

Celticknits

Below is the payout sheet for Nottos Jackpot247 30May16 numbers.

This one demonstrates several important points.

1)   What can happen if you do not consider averages in spins 11-20 and go back to tracking when that triple hit happens on spin 18.
2)   This is one of the times that most of the paying Single Repeats DO NOT pay out in spins 21-30.

So at spin 30 should I be worried?
Not really because I am still expecting 4 out of the next 7 spins to pay me, and I know this is not RNG!!!

The question for you on this Payout sheet is:

1) Why did I not reset the Progression to 1 after spins 28 and 31 when I was at a new high each time.
The answer is something Notto has told us several times.

-Celtic


JACKPOT247   30MAY16
Bet Repeats using G.U.T., Averages, Count
S # R Bet P Stake Won Net Total
1 28
2 31
3 25
4 9
5 0
6 22
7 22 R1
8 14
9 11
10 17 9/10
11 27
12 19
13 23
14 20
15 19 R1
16 27 R1
17 21         --- Tracking good so start betting
18 27 R2 11 1 11 -11 -11   --- OH CRAP --3rd repeat has hapened but is a Multiple Hit
19 34 -11        so back to tracking
20 33 -11
21 15 -11
22 32 -11
23 24 -11
24 12 -11   --- Tracking is good so here we go again
25 21 R1 17 2 34 72 38 27
26 29 16 1 16 -16 11
27 30 16 2 32 -32 -21
28 9 R1 16 3 48 108 60 39
29 7 15 2 30 -30 9
30 27 R2 15 3 45 -45 -36
31 33 R1 15 4 60 144 84 48
32 34 R1 14 3 42 108 66 114   --- Win/Stop reached so QUIT!!!
33 19 R2 13 1 13 -13 101
34 30 RX 12 2 24 -24 77
35 28 R1 11 3 33 108 75 152
36 31 R1 10 1 10 36 26 178
37 14 R1 9 1 9 36 27 205
NOTE:  R>R1 Designates numbers already repeated
Rx Designates numbers Repeated but not bet on

'Sometimes it is best to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt'

NextYear

Thanks Celtic!

Notto is expecting 15 0x until spin 40, and most of them we've already seen?!

Celticknits

Quote from: NextYear on May 30, 11:12 AM 2016
Thanks Celtic!

Notto is expecting 15 0x until spin 40, and most of them we've already seen?!

-Nextyear

Not sure what you are saying.

I believe Nottos Averages sheets show 15 0x in spins 11-40 and 30 0x in spins 1-60.

-Celtic
'Sometimes it is best to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt'

NextYear

Quote from: Celticknits on May 30, 10:40 AM 20161) Why did I not reset the Progression to 1 after spins 28 and 31 when I was at a new high each time.
The answer is something Notto has told us several times.

I mean that most of expected 0x have already hit, no?
So we hope for more 1x to come...


tuddilue

Quote from: Celticknits on May 30, 10:00 AM 2016
-Tuddi

See the corrections in red.

The answers you gave to the two questions I posed were spot on.
I think you have got it but slow down and take it one step at a time.
Making a 1 digit mistake when tracking with GUT can mean the difference between betting on the next spin or just keeping on tracking.

Thank you for taking the time to answer the questions I posed.

-Celtic
Thanks Celtic!
Yes I have learned by the best!

Yes I see what you mean I have to be more careful. It's easy to do some mistake...

I always tries to answer your questions. I learn a lot that way!

- Tuddilue

tuddilue

Quote from: Celticknits on May 30, 10:40 AM 2016
Below is the payout sheet for Nottos Jackpot247 30May16 numbers.
....
The question for you on this Payout sheet is:

1) Why did I not reset the Progression to 1 after spins 28 and 31 when I was at a new high each time.
The answer is something Notto has told us several times.

-Celtic

Answer: KTF!

- Tuddilue

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