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Title: Roulette Bot Pro - Casino Bot: by Thomas R. Grant
Post by: ThomasGrant on Jul 03, 04:43 PM 2010
See link:://:.roulettetraining.com/roulette-bots-to-help-win-roulette/ for free roulette bots.

Ok, I must warn you, in advance.
That I am an affiliate of Roulette Bot Pro.
And if I get permission from Victor.
I may or may not post my affiliate link to the program.
So any comments that I say about Roulette Bot Pro.
Are mine.  They are not paid advertisements.
Now that is all cleared up.
I will be posting news and reviews on Roulette Bot Pro.
With screen shots.
Real Casino play.
With real money.
Plus videos and anything else I can think of.

So stay tuned.
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro - Casino Bot: by Thomas R. Grant
Post by: ThomasGrant on Jul 04, 10:31 AM 2010
 :)

Yes, I know Matt.
I know both Matts.  Matt of Roulette Bot Pro.
And, Matt of Super Roulette.

Both programs have been writen by Tiago.
Or I should say, coded by Tiago.
I know Tiago as well.

Tiago is an amazing programer.

Regarding V3 of RBP.
RBP is a good program.
It works.
It has some interetting systems.
And it is far easier to use then anything that MMM has to offer.
Plus it looks a lot better.
And a great deal simpler to use.
It has graphs.  stop-loss.  And many other features.
What the new version has.  I don't know.  Not yet anyway.

Personally, I would recommend RBP.
It is reasonalby priced.
Works on many casinos.
Even works on my favourite casino.  BetVoyager.
It works on Dublin Bet and many others.
The new version will also work on casinos that use Microgaming software.
So much more user freindly than anything that MMM has to offer.

Here is my referal link for the software.

This software is a scam. Link removed!!!!!

Make up your own mind.
I have used RBP.
It works.
I recommend it.

Yours. . .

Thomas R.  Grant
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro - Casino Bot: by Thomas R. Grant
Post by: ThomasGrant on Jul 05, 04:06 AM 2010
Here is my original testimonial that I did for Roulette Bot
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro - Casino Bot: by Thomas R. Grant
Post by: Krasio84 on Feb 14, 02:33 PM 2012
How can i play with Roulette Bot Pro in BetVoyager ..... Red and Black dont work :( automatic dont work .....
Can be done .... 0.03c Low, 0.01 19-24, 0.02 Doz 3 for automatic play ???? And if you can ... how ? :)

Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro - Casino Bot: by Thomas R. Grant
Post by: ThomasGrant on Feb 14, 08:57 PM 2012
Quote from: Krasio84 on Feb 14, 02:33 PM 2012
How can i play with Roulette Bot Pro in BetVoyager ..... Red and Black don't work :( automatic don't work .....
Can be done .... 0.03c Low, 0.01 19-24, 0.02 Doz 3 for automatic play ??? ? And if you can ... how ? :)

I know that it does this.
BetVoyager now has or has had no exclusive bets for a while now.
So what you do. I let RBP make the first bet. Remove one of the bets.
Go to settings and chose something like red/black to play all the time.
No progressions.
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro - Casino Bot: by Thomas R. Grant
Post by: jayyid76 on May 12, 04:15 PM 2012
Hi,
I just brought RBP today but none of the casinos work with it, i tried BETVOYAGER, CASINO 888, SMART, DUBLIN, none work, i emailed support and they just said that lots of casinos have changed something, does anyone know how/where i can use RBP, i paid $97 and cant use it anywhere! any advice would be much appriciated, Jay.
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro - Casino Bot: by Thomas R. Grant
Post by: jayyid76 on May 12, 05:55 PM 2012
Can you tell me when the automatic mode will be working on RBP? only works on manual i got told from Matt Reams.
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro - Casino Bot: by Thomas R. Grant
Post by: ThomasGrant on May 15, 11:30 AM 2012
Just hold on your to your hats.

Matt has told me that a new version is on the way.
And it will be here very soon.
Now, I know many have been frustrated with the long, long wait.
However... Tigago the coder, has actually started doing some work on it.
Matt has some extensive testing to do.
And has to search for any bugs that may be around.
I know that some have been waiting.
But for those that have paid for it.
Should all get the update when it is released.
ETA: A month or so.
But please don't quote me on that.
It's what Matt has told me.
As an estimate.
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro - Casino Bot: by Thomas R. Grant
Post by: jayyid76 on May 15, 03:28 PM 2012
Thanks for your reply
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro - Casino Bot: by Thomas R. Grant
Post by: devyn711 on May 27, 08:32 PM 2012

Hi Thomas,

I appreciate your post, but I've been wondering....

How have you been able to use Roulette Bot Pro successfully?  I keep getting wiped out even though I play conservatively.   It seems inevitably that a dozen or column "sleeps" for 25 spins or something rediculous like that and it wipes out my balance, and the software stops.   Do you stop at 1 win or something conservative like that?

Do you have any suggestions?  settings?   I know you may be reluctant to suggest anything but I'm completely stumped.  Playing at William Hill (because BetVoyager doesn't work auto mode) and I even gave up playing anything except dozens and columns because all the other options (lines, corners, etc...) always killed me, and now even dozens set to 20 in sleepers doesn't work.

Ideas?  I like the software theoretically, but it keeps losing. 

Also found that you can simulate a "free spin" at BetVoyager by placing 3cents on 1-18, and 1 cent each on the bottom three lines (19-24, 25-30, 31-36).   Another software called Spin4Profit does this.   Maybe Matt could just change the auto mode from a bet on red and black to this instead, and we'd all suddenly have BetVoyager available again in auto mode. 

Thanks

Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro - Casino Bot: by Thomas R. Grant
Post by: ThomasGrant on May 30, 01:13 PM 2012
I don't play.
That's how I save money.
Just to clarify that.
I do keep in contact with Matt.
So when RBP is released.
I will give it a go again.
Why waste my time playing and loosing?
When I can just wait. For the software to come out.
And then test it out.
There may be new systems to try out.
New ways to play.
I'd rather wait to play with something that works.
If it wins or not. That is another question.

Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro - Casino Bot: by Thomas R. Grant
Post by: Roochla on Jul 14, 06:14 AM 2012
Yesterday RBP stopped working at a number of the Playtech casino's too due to them swapping the buttons.

I emailed Matt and his response was 'I have no info for you'.... This is poor.

To be clear the bot only works at one or two casinos now where the min bet is £1 and it wont bet singles on any site due to a programming error.

The change at Playtech also affects Roulette Assault....I have emailed the vendor of this product as well. Lets see if his response is more satisfactory however there has been no response yet.

I will update as to what happens good or bad here as Matt (RBP) has not updated his site with the casinos the bot ACTUALLY works at even though Betvoyager has been down for the bot for over a year now so has been selling under false pretences for a while now.

I hope he and the product come good....but it has been a while since much happened with it in any respect TBH
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro - Casino Bot: by Thomas R. Grant
Post by: ThomasGrant on Jul 26, 08:31 AM 2012
Quote from: Roochla on Jul 14, 06:14 AM 2012
Yesterday RBP stopped working at a number of the Playtech casino's too due to them swapping the buttons.

I emailed Matt and his response was 'I have no info for you'.... This is poor.

To be clear the bot only works at one or two casinos now where the min bet is £1 and it won't bet singles on any site due to a programming error.

The change at Playtech also affects Roulette Assault....I have emailed the vendor of this product as well. Lets see if his response is more satisfactory however there has been no response yet.

I will update as to what happens good or bad here as Matt (RBP) has not updated his site with the casinos the bot ACTUALLY works at even though Betvoyager has been down for the bot for over a year now so has been selling under false pretences for a while now.

I hope he and the product come good....but it has been a while since much happened with it in any respect to be honest

Ohh dear...
I don't know how many times I tell people this.
But they just do not seem to listen...
So here it again.
In Plain English...

Roulette Bot Pro.
Is the best online roulette tool there is. IMO.
However...
Casinos... Do update their graphics from time to time.
And the software gets updated as well.
Recent events are a case in point.
The NEW version of RBP works in some Playtech casinos. But not others.
This is due to an update to some of the casinos updtating the Playtech software.
The ReBet button is of by a few pixels.
However. Tiago... The master programer.
Has figured out a way to auto detect the new version of playtech vs the old version.
I have spoken to Matt. On skype several times over the last few weeks.
And he has sent me a beta version of RBP 4.
I must say. That I am very impressed.
Please NOTE: Anyone that has purchased RBP
Will get the upgrade free.
It's part of the Clickbank terms.
As for Live Roulette tables.
Some places still have some issues.
Please note that not every casino can be covered.
But more than any other software on the market today.

So again.
To make this totally clear.
Online Casinos update their software.

Also...
If you are not happy with it.
Ask for a refund.

If you still have issues with it.
Then Matt may even answer your emails.
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro - Casino Bot: by Thomas R. Grant
Post by: Roochla on Aug 16, 03:55 PM 2012
It has now been a month with no update or fix.

Promised deadlines passsed on the 1st and 15th of this month respectively.

Not looking great.
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro - Casino Bot: by Thomas R. Grant
Post by: ThomasGrant on Sep 03, 04:09 PM 2012
Quote from: Roochla on Aug 16, 03:55 PM 2012
It has now been a month with no update or fix.

Promised deadlines passsed on the 1st and 15th of this month respectively.

Not looking great.

Soon... so soon...
Just had a word from Matt.
He is just about done.
A few more bugs to iron out.
And it will be ready.
I think he has done the pdf
And some videos.
Maybe by the end of Oct.
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro - Casino Bot: by Thomas R. Grant
Post by: subby on Sep 05, 09:14 PM 2012
Roulette bot(RB) is a scam - They claim they are giving it away free but in fact they have affiliates with casinos which means for every £100 you place with the casino...The people who made RB, get a cut of that money from the casino.


RB is a scam and they even try to say this stuff...

"From time to time make deposits into your account after winning sessions. The brands monitor the balance of their players. In order to keep a low security-profile you should deposit after making big wins. This will help you to achieve even bigger wins and reduce the risk of losing to an absolute minimum."

^^^ I got this from them in an email, they want you to keep losing money by depositing more and more?? WTF HOW CAN DEPOSITING MORE MONEY REDUCE YOUR RISK OF LOSING THE LOT???

Dominik $86,450.00" <-- This is from their webste - July 2012 winners...do you really think someone has won over £86,000....and the casino paid it out in July, to one person???? Get real!!! The casino would have banned them or suspended the users account.

Sorry ThomasGrant but RB is a fallacy
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro - Casino Bot: by Thomas R. Grant
Post by: Steve on Sep 06, 08:23 AM 2012
Thomas, read my recent post about this scam you are promoting. I'm very surprised you may think it is legit. I'm not sure anyone could think it is legit. It is as blatant as scams get! please do not promote scams here or affiliate links. You are even creating testimonials for it?? it is a 100% scam!
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro - Casino Bot: by Thomas R. Grant
Post by: ThomasGrant on Sep 06, 12:33 PM 2012
Quote from: Steve on Sep 06, 08:23 AM 2012
Thomas, read my recent post about this scam you are promoting. I'm very surprised you may think it is legit. I'm not sure anyone could think it is legit. It is as blatant as scams get! please do not promote scams here or affiliate links. You are even creating testimonials for it?? it is a 100% scam!

?
This is an old post.
I has been read over 3000 times.
And your just now starting to complain about it?
RBP is far better software than anything you have.
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro - Casino Bot: by Thomas R. Grant
Post by: ddarko on Sep 06, 01:28 PM 2012
Quote from: ThomasGrant on Sep 06, 12:33 PM 2012
?
This is an old post.
I has been read over 3000 times.
And your just now starting to complain about it?
RBP is far better software than anything you have.

Doubt this section will be around for much longer when you talk to the head honcho like that Mr.Grant.

Bye Bye

O0
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro - Casino Bot: by Thomas R. Grant
Post by: ihgl on Sep 06, 03:12 PM 2012
Post removed since no moderator has had the time to read or approve it for 2 days. It is of no interest no longer.
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro - Casino Bot: by Thomas R. Grant
Post by: MattR151 on Sep 06, 04:03 PM 2012
Quote from: subby on Sep 05, 09:14 PM 2012
Roulette bot(RB) is a scam - They claim they are giving it away free but in fact they have affiliates with casinos which means for every £100 you place with the casino...The people who made RB, get a cut of that money from the casino.


RB is a scam and they even try to say this stuff...

"From time to time make deposits into your account after winning sessions. The brands monitor the balance of their players. In order to keep a low security-profile you should deposit after making big wins. This will help you to achieve even bigger wins and reduce the risk of losing to an absolute minimum."

^^^ I got this from them in an email, they want you to keep losing money by depositing more and more?? WTF HOW CAN DEPOSITING MORE MONEY REDUCE YOUR RISK OF LOSING THE LOT???

Dominik $86,450.00" <-- This is from their webste - July 2012 winners...do you really think someone has won over £86,000....and the casino paid it out in July, to one person? ??? Get real!!! The casino would have banned them or suspended the users account.

Sorry ThomasGrant but RB is a fallacy

This is Matt The creator of Roulette Bot Pro thought I would chime in.

subby....get your facts straight buddy.  This thread is about Roulette Bot Pro.  You are talking about Roulette Bot Plus, that is not my program and I have NOTHING to do with it.

What I will say is most people here, include Steve do not know the definition of a SCAM!  In fact I challenge Steve or anyone else to explain to me how Roulette Bot Pro is a SCAM.  Once again just because you lost money does not mean its a scam.

A SCAM is when you pay for something and get nothing in return or get something different than what was advertised.

My program Roulette Bot Pro is NOT a SCAM.  I give you a 3 day free trial and it has a 60 day money back guarantee! I do NOT promise you will make money, in fact on my FAQ page I tell people I do NOT guarantee you will make money!  My program does exactly what YOU program it to do.  If you lose you cannot blame the program.

People think that just because they lost money the program doesn't work.  This is ridicules.  The program works just as YOU program it to do.

Version 4 will be released soon.  Some things are beyond my control like the programmer I am waiting on.  So if the date gets pushed back, deal with it. 

I hope the Moderator doesn't delete this post.  All I have done is tell the truth and tell people FACTS.  I am just setting the record straight.

Matt
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro - Casino Bot: by Thomas R. Grant
Post by: speed on Sep 06, 04:54 PM 2012
Why this software is SCAM :

First thing I do not like it on the front page of the web site are pictures with lamborghini and plenty of money and in FAQ writes I do not guarantee you will make money...

he says :

Do you guarantee I will make money?
No! I do not guarantee you will make money because it depends on too many variables. Even with good settings you may lose once in a while. Do not buy this program if you are expecting to make $1000 every night. Be realistic. Sometimes you will win, and sometimes you will lose. When you lose that does not mean the program does not work! The program will do exactly what you program it to do. Any roulette bot that guarantees you will make money every time you use it is lying.


This is amateur propaganda text with many stupidity.
First he say that he do not guarantee you will make money, and then he do not guarantee you will make 1000 per night. :o

The main question for Matt (what he avoids to answer) is WILL WE MAKE MORE MONEY THEN LOSE IN LONG RUN WITH THIS BOT ? (I personally know the answer but on Matt are to say so we can determine is this is 100% scam) :)



speed
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro - Casino Bot: by Thomas R. Grant
Post by: ataru on Sep 06, 05:03 PM 2012
Matt,

be aware that Steve wrote a post few days ago saying that your software is a SCAM, see here

link:://rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=10195.0 (link:://rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=10195.0)

(and also on VLSroulette forum)

while he obviously doesn't have any clue about what your software is because :
1. he thinks your software is given away for free while it's not
2. in the email he shows there's an email address that is of course not yours
3. he (like subby) is talking about a totally different software which is probably RouletteBot PLUS and not PRO which is OBVIOUSLY a scam and only has a name similar to your software

just wrote this because I feel what has been written about Roulette Bot PRO is not right, I own a copy of the software and I liked it and used it a lot (when it was working), now I am waiting for the long awaited update :)
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro - Casino Bot: by Thomas R. Grant
Post by: MattR151 on Sep 06, 05:11 PM 2012
Quote from: speed on Sep 06, 04:54 PM 2012
Why this software is SCAM :

First thing I do not like it on the front page of the web site are pictures with lamborghini and plenty of money and in FAQ writes I do not guarantee you will make money...


Do you guarantee I will make money?
No! I do not guarantee you will make money because it depends on too many variables. Even with good settings you may lose once in a while. Do not buy this program if you are expecting to make $1000 every night. Be realistic. Sometimes you will win, and sometimes you will lose. When you lose that does not mean the program does not work! The program will do exactly what you program it to do. Any roulette bot that guarantees you will make money every time you use it is lying.


This is amateur propaganda text with many stupidity.
First he say that he do not guarantee you will make money, and then he do not guarantee you will make 1000 per night. :o

The main question for Matt (what he avoids to answer) is WILL WE MAKE MORE MONEY THEN LOSE IN LONG RUN WITH THIS BOT ? (I personally know the answer but on Matt are to say so we can determine is this is 100% scam) :)



speed
You might not like my website or the way it looks and feels, the pictures, the text  etc.  That is your right but does that make it a scam?  No it doesn't.

I used $1000 per night as an example.  That doesn't not mean I do guarantee you will win $999 per night. 

How have I avoided a question that has not been asked? 

I do not know if YOU or anyone else will win more than they lose.  This is IMPOSSIBLE to answer and here is why.  People will use different settings and different betting unit sizes etc.  If you are winning $100 then lose it all and more who's fault is that?  What if you win $1 then stop and do that every day, then you will win more than you lose.  I cannot control how people play.  There too many variables and it is IMPOSSIBLE to answer.

Speed you still have not told me how Roulette Bot Pro is a scam.  Do people get exactly what they paid for?  YES.  You are stuck on the idea that if people lose money it is a SCAM, that makes no sense.  If you think that way you might say people that buy this program will lose money, but even that you cannot guarantee can you?  But once again that does not make it a SCAM.

You think the website is too hyped up and geared to make a sale.  Well guess what, I make money when I sell it, so silly me for trying to make money.

Matt
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro - Casino Bot: by Thomas R. Grant
Post by: MattR151 on Sep 06, 05:21 PM 2012
Quote from: ataru on Sep 06, 05:03 PM 2012
Matt,

be aware that Steve wrote a post few days ago saying that your software is a SCAM, see here

link:://rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=10195.0 (link:://rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=10195.0)

(and also on VLSroulette forum)

while he obviously doesn't have any clue about what your software is because :
1. he thinks your software is given away for free while it's not
2. in the email he shows there's an email address that is of course not yours
3. he (like subby) is talking about a totally different software which is probably RouletteBot PLUS and not PRO which is OBVIOUSLY a scam and only has a name similar to your software

just wrote this because I feel what has been written about Roulette Bot PRO is not right, I own a copy of the software and I liked it and used it a lot (when it was working), now I am waiting for the long awaited update :)

I was not aware of that post as I have not been in this forum for many many months.  I have made a reply to that thread as well.

I will also like to add that if me or Roulette Bot Plus owner makes money from casinos if someone signs up via an affiliate link does that make it a scam?  NO!  It's called marketing.

If someone guarantees you will make money then that is a SCAM because it is impossible to make that guarantee.



Matt
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro - Casino Bot: by Thomas R. Grant
Post by: Interstate89 on Sep 06, 05:36 PM 2012
Let´s imagine you buy a car and the car dealer tells you: "maybe the engine starts, maybe not"
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro - Casino Bot: by Thomas R. Grant
Post by: speed on Sep 06, 05:43 PM 2012
Quote from: MattR151 on Sep 06, 05:11 PM 2012


I used $1000 per night as an example.  That doesn't not mean I do guarantee you will win $999 per night. 

Then what you guarantee???

Quote from: MattR151 on Sep 06, 05:11 PM 2012

What if you win $1 then stop and do that every day, then you will win more than you lose.

No that not true. For a roulette bot creator u must to know that hit and run dont work.(mathematically,statistically and with test on millions spins on RX proven)

Quote from: MattR151 on Sep 06, 05:11 PM 2012
Speed you still have not told me how Roulette Bot Pro is a scam.

If u say this my bot dont guarantee not even 1$ (what is true), then i agree with you that this is  NOT SCAM  :)

Quote from: MattR151 on Sep 06, 05:11 PM 2012
You are stuck on the idea that if people lose money it is a SCAM, that makes no sense.

Yes i stuck on that idea only if people lose money on long run and you say that with your bot they will make money on long run. :)

Quote from: MattR151 on Sep 06, 05:11 PM 2012
You think the website is too hyped up and geared to make a sale.  Well guess what, I make money when I sell it, so silly me for trying to make money.

No, I'm just saying what an impression I personally got when enter to your site without reading nothing.  :)

Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro - Casino Bot: by Thomas R. Grant
Post by: MattR151 on Sep 06, 05:58 PM 2012
Quote from: speed on Sep 06, 05:43 PM 2012
Then what you guarantee???

No that not true. For a roulette bot creator u must to know that hit and run don't work.(mathematically,statistically and with test on millions spins on RX proven)

   
If u say this my bot don't guarantee not even 1$ (what is true), then i agree with you that this is  NOT SCAM  :)

Yes i stuck on that idea only if people lose money on long run and you say that with your bot they will make money on long run. :)

No, I'm just saying what an impression I personally got when enter to your site without reading nothing.  :)

I have money back guarantee, if you are not satisfied with the product you can get your money back within the first 60 days, as stated on the website.

Can you prove that I cannot make $1 per day then stop?  I have never tried because it isn't worth my time, but I can't say that it cannot be done, nor can you say it can't be done.  You can say that most likey it can't be done but you can't say 100% it can't be done.

You are still stuck on the idea that my program MUST make you money in the long run to not be a scam.  You are WRONG.  The program does what YOU or the user programs it to do.  Winning or losing money has nothing to do with it.  I put on my website that I do not guarantee you will make money.  I do say sometimes you will win and sometimes you will lose.  Where on my site do I ever say people will win money in the long run?  Nowhere! Get your FACTS straight.  I cannot make that claim because it is false for SOME people.  Some people might make money in the long run some wont.  And not me or you can say otherwise.
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro - Casino Bot: by Thomas R. Grant
Post by: speed on Sep 06, 06:20 PM 2012
Quote from: MattR151 on Sep 06, 05:58 PM 2012


Can you prove that I cannot make $1 per day then stop? 

Video on your website shows earnings of $ 100 for 73 seconds, and now you are talking about $ 1 per day, something is disagree there. Only that fact make you scamer.

And in the title of the site you wrote this :

This casino crushing software sucks money from roulette tables into your pocket on auto pilot!

And then you're talking  here in the forum about 1$ per day!?...it is ridiculous

All scamer sites have 100% money back guarantee but that are not applicable in practice.

If u agree im out of this debate.


Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro - Casino Bot: by Thomas R. Grant
Post by: MattR151 on Sep 06, 06:41 PM 2012
Quote from: speed on Sep 06, 06:20 PM 2012
Video on your website shows earnings of $ 100 for 73 seconds, and now you are talking about $ 1 per day, something is disagree there. Only that fact make you scamer.

And in the title of the site you wrote this :

This casino crushing software sucks money from roulette tables into your pocket on auto pilot!

And then you're talking  here in the forum about 1$ per day!?...it is ridiculous

All scamer sites have 100% money back guarantee but that are not applicable in practice.

If u agree I'm out of this debate.


The making $1 per day was to prove a point that it is possible you can make money every day, but is not guaranteed.  You logic of me showing a video of making $100 in 73 seconds then talking about $1 per day making me a scammer make NO sense.  The video is for promotional purposes and it show the program in action.


Obviously you don't know ANYTHING about Clickbank.  They are the people that  facility the sale.  The 60 day money back guarantee is a Clicbank policy that they enforce not me.

You are implying that my site money back guarantee is not real.  I have had people some people ask for money back and have given it back.  Where is your PROOF of what you are implying that I do not apply this policy?  You have no proof and are just spouting off without knowing FACTS.

If I or clickbank did not give people money back within the 60 days when they asked for it then yes it would be a scam, but that is not the case. This is typical of people calling things a scam.  They have no first hand knowledge of the FACTS.

Matt
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro - Casino Bot: by Thomas R. Grant
Post by: speed on Sep 06, 07:01 PM 2012
Ok, Matt (fact man),I personally think that if in the world there is no noobs, you would never sell a single copy of this bot.  :)
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro - Casino Bot: by Thomas R. Grant
Post by: Steve on Sep 06, 07:03 PM 2012
QuoteI has been read over 3000 times. And your just now starting to complain about it?

Its the first time I've seen it. I cant possibly read everything here.

QuoteRBP is far better software than anything you have.

what do you know about what I have? I think you better have a good look into what I have before making such statements

The software I was referring to us roulette bot plus, not roulette bot pro. So I made a mistake here and apologize. I dont know enough about roulette bot pro to comment. I will amend the original thread's name. I'm not wrong about roulette bot plus. What I got wrong was the similar names.

Matt, my understanding of your software is it is just a programmable bot. As far as I can tell it doesnt appear to support any bet selection method beyond gamblers fallacy, but if you have the foundation of a bot, this may be changed although dont expect outside bets and progression to get anywhere. Your testimonials are also misleading. May I suggest you just show the functionality of the software in a quick clear way. Thats what people would prefer to see.

I would not call your software a scam if its just a bot, but I believe the advertising is misleading. It takes the reader some time to realize you're selling a bot. The various material suggests people are winning with this great system. But its just a bot. So just focus on promoting it as it is. I mean statements like "This casino crushing software sucks money from roulette tables into your pocket on auto pilot!" are going to put off people when they see it is a bot.

QuoteCan you prove that I cannot make $1 per day then stop?  I have never tried because it isn't worth my time, but I can't say that it cannot be done, nor can you say it can't be done.  You can say that most likey it can't be done but you can't say 100% it can't be done.

Actually yes if your bot only offers betting options that are gamblers fallacy, like outside bets and progression, then yes I can prove you cannot make $1/day then stop and win in the long term (if you do this thousands or hundreds of thousands of times).

Again I apologize for mixing up the names. I'm not wrong often  :twisted:
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro - Casino Bot: by Thomas R. Grant
Post by: MattR151 on Sep 06, 07:57 PM 2012
Quote from: Steve on Sep 06, 07:03 PM 2012
Its the first time I've seen it. I can't possibly read everything here.

what do you know about what I have? I think you better have a good look into what I have before making such statements

The software I was referring to us roulette bot plus, not roulette bot pro. So I made a mistake here and apologize. I don't know enough about roulette bot pro to comment. I will amend the original thread's name. I'm not wrong about roulette bot plus. What I got wrong was the similar names.

Matt, my understanding of your software is it is just a programmable bot. As far as I can tell it doesn't appear to support any bet selection method beyond gamblers fallacy, but if you have the foundation of a bot, this may be changed although don't expect outside bets and progression to get anywhere. Your testimonials are also misleading. May I suggest you just show the functionality of the software in a quick clear way. that's what people would prefer to see.

I would not call your software a scam if its just a bot, but I believe the advertising is misleading. It takes the reader some time to realize you're selling a bot. The various material suggests people are winning with this great system. But its just a bot. So just focus on promoting it as it is. I mean statements like "This casino crushing software sucks money from roulette tables into your pocket on auto pilot!" are going to put off people when they see it is a bot.

Actually yes if your bot only offers betting options that are gamblers fallacy, like outside bets and progression, then yes I can prove you cannot make $1/day then stop and win in the long term (if you do this thousands or hundreds of thousands of times).

Again I apologize for mixing up the names. I'm not wrong often  :twisted:

Allot of people get Roulette Bot Plus and Roulette Bot Pro mixed up.  I am sure that's why the person that made Roulette Bot Plus was counting on when he named it.

I am not defending Roulette Bot Plus but how is it a scam going by the fact he makes money from people signing up to casinos via his link?  That is just good marketing.  Now if he is tell people he guarantees a win that is a different story.

Roulette Bot Pro is a bot.  It has several different betting systems including inside bets that the user can configure.  Everything is clearly stated on the website.  Of course I make the website more geared toward the idea that people will make money.  That is how I sell it.  But everything is clearly stated on the site and has a free trial and money back guarantee.  Some people may not agree with my marketing methods and that is ok.  But there is nothing illegal about it.
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro - Casino Bot: by Thomas R. Grant
Post by: Steve on Sep 06, 08:08 PM 2012
QuoteI am not defending Roulette Bot Plus but how is it a scam going by the fact he makes money from people signing up to casinos via his link?  That is just good marketing.  Now if he is tell people he guarantees a win that is a different story.

How is it a scam? ??? Read their claims.

Do you really think that hundreds of thousands has been donated by players that use the software for free?

What do you think about the casino promoters  contacting me telling me they are working with casinos, and asking me if I want to promote too for commission??

Do you really think people have made hundreds of thousands from it, and the casinos want to promote it??

Do you really think it is not a scam to tell people,.... hey! try this free bot that everyone is winnig with!.... but hey, try it only at these casinos that I am paid from when you lose!!!

GOOD MARKETING??! MAYBE, BUT IT IS A SCAM!!

QuoteSome people may not agree with my marketing methods and that is ok.  But there is nothing illegal about it.

Your perception doesn't count. The perception of your customers is what counts. Some people are plain dumb and will believe what some sellers say. But a lot are also smarter and can see through the BS. You can't have the same site that pleases both - you can either be hot or cold, not luke warm or you will a lot from both groups of people. Anyway nobody is forcing you to take advice
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro - Casino Bot: by Thomas R. Grant
Post by: MattR151 on Sep 06, 08:25 PM 2012
Quote from: Steve on Sep 06, 08:08 PM 2012
How is it a scam? ??? Read their claims.

Do you really think that hundreds of thousands has been donated by players that use the software for free?

What do you think about the casino promoters  contacting me telling me they are working with casinos, and asking me if I want to promote too for commission??

Do you really think people have made hundreds of thousands from it, and the casinos want to promote it??

Do you really think it is not a scam to tell people,.... hey! try this free bot that everyone is winnig with!.... but hey, try it only at these casinos that I am paid from when you lose!!!

GOOD MARKETING??! MAYBE, BUT IT IS A SCAM!!

Your perception doesn't count. The perception of your customers is what counts. Some people are plain dumb and will believe what some sellers say. But a lot are also smarter and can see through the BS. You can't have the same site that pleases both - you can either be hot or cold, not luke warm. Anyway nobody is forcing you to take advice


If claims are made that are false then it is a scam, I think we all can agree on that.  Reading the site it mentions they use "Algo-Analysis Technology" for the RNG.  Now that is total BS because all they use is a sleeper Martingale system.
I do not think they have received over 100K in donations so that most likely is false but I cannot prove it.  What I do know is their Alex ranking is an AMAZING 726!  That is tens of thousands of visitors per day.  That number is simply to hard to fake with bots, so I know they get lots of traffic.
If you want to promote casinos for commissions I say all the more power to you.  I get them contacting me all the time.  Yes I promote casinos, I don't see what is wrong with that.
As far as what the users have made on Roulette Bot Plus Example:  Valdas M $87,814 I can not prove they did not make tht much but I am pretty sure it is BS.
Overall I would say Roulette Bot Plus is a scam only due to the fact of false adverting.
Of course I do not think my product Roulette Bot Pro is a scam. 
You are correct about some people are plain dumb, I deal with those emails daily.  I guess the seller has to feel good when they sleep at night.  I know I do.  Like I said my site is a bit hyped up, but everything is on the site for the customer to read.  All the facts are there and no false claims.
I do appreciate you input Steve.  You weren't a jerk and delete the post and apologized for an easy to make mistake.  I just get pissed off when people call Roulette Bot Pro a scam.  The people that do usually say it is because they lost money or have not read the site.  But I have already gone over why that makes no sense.

Matt

Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro - Casino Bot: by Thomas R. Grant
Post by: Steve on Sep 06, 08:55 PM 2012
Matt, being able to admit a mistake is a basic thing everyone needs to be able to do. Among others, a french kid I knew could never do this, so sunk deeper into a hole when he chose to attack me instead of do the honorable thing and admit he made a mistake. he did apologize to me once in private for being constantly wrong, but the last time he refused to admit mistake, then he spiraled out of control twisting everything trying to refute the fact he's incompetent. he still appears obsessed in trying to convince people I'm a "scammer". he even once reported that he made $4000 from what I taught him. but it didnt matter when someones motives are malicious. another member explained well what goes on in his head. anyway that's an extreme case of dickhead.. like 1 in 1000.

if you sell something, especially in this industry, you are going to be called a scammer at some stage whether or not you are. Because people make mistakes, have pride and can't admit mistakes, some people are plain silly and believe what others say, some people don't care to research etc etc.

Anyway good luck with your bot, but again I suggest include options that cater for advantage players too. I have no doubt that gamblers fallacy methods don't work, like progression, outside bets etc, but there is nothing wrong selling a bot that caters for people that want to use systems like this unless you were to tell them such methods work when they don't. Government laws would not require you to highlight weaknesses in your products, but they prohibit false advertising which is different. That doesn't mean people don't lie or stretch truth in advertising as of course it is common. In my advertising I try to be as direct and honest with people as possible to give them realistic expectations otherwise it comes back to you later. Be honest from the start, and you will still get the occasional dickhead, but the majority of customers will know what they are purchasing.
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro - Casino Bot: by Thomas R. Grant
Post by: subby on Sep 07, 05:58 PM 2012
If I got the software/software name, wrong then I'll man up and say sorry  ???

I still think all software like this isn't going to do anything other than empty your bank account.
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro - Casino Bot: by Thomas R. Grant
Post by: vladir on Sep 17, 11:02 AM 2012
I have used one of the previous't versions for the 3 days trial. I don't think it's a scam, it does what is supposed to do. I haven't bougth it because it didn't give the flexebility I seek to test and play some more complex systems (e.g. the progressions allowed where only to recover in 1 win). For example, if I wanted to play a system like this - bet 5 spins on red, and if in negative, increase 1 unit for next 5 spins - that wasn't possible. I hope this next version allows for more options. If it does, I may even buy it this time.
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro - Casino Bot: by Thomas R. Grant
Post by: Roochla on Sep 28, 06:12 PM 2012
Bot does not work at the listed casinos still.

Update promised 28.8.12 no fix.

Update promised 29.9.12.......lets see.........nope

Update promised 15.10.12................
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro - Casino Bot: by Thomas R. Grant
Post by: Roochla on Oct 01, 04:49 PM 2012
Quote from: vladir on Sep 17, 11:02 AM 2012
I have used one of the previous't versions for the 3 days trial. I don't think it's a scam, it does what is supposed to do. I haven't bougth it because it didn't give the flexebility I seek to test and play some more complex systems (e.g. the progressions allowed where only to recover in 1 win). For example, if I wanted to play a system like this - bet 5 spins on red, and if in negative, increase 1 unit for next 5 spins - that wasn't possible. I hope this next version allows for more options. If it does, I may even buy it this time.

You can do this with RBP...it involves using the custom betting option in conjunction with the profit target setting after saving your progression.....as the progression will not stop until the profit target has been hit.

GL
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro - Casino Bot: by Thomas R. Grant
Post by: Roochla on Oct 17, 06:35 PM 2012
Still no more fix....it has been months.

The developer keeps setting deadlines which pass with no form of update to make the software operable again.

Next promised 1st Nov...... lets see.
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro - Casino Bot: by Thomas R. Grant
Post by: virgiliodinis on Nov 12, 12:43 PM 2012
Next promise 1st Dec.
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro - Casino Bot: by Thomas R. Grant
Post by: Ralph on Nov 12, 01:07 PM 2012
I will release my bot in about a month, free download, 100 ready made scripts, make your own as well. No promise you will win, as you could in fact do it manual, the bot will just make it more relaxing. No bot can make your chances better, just easier.

I do not go for the wait until 14 reds, which is nothing but timewaste, it will run reasonable methods, which can win.  It has a feature for no scripts, most methods can be programmed using some English words, as wait until, goto and if win, if lose. The first beta testers are here, and some more will be invited. Any bets can be used, in any method.  A feature simulated manual play is present.

I have no connection with the casino, a bot must be made for specific casinos, as you must read the screen.

Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro - Casino Bot: by Thomas R. Grant
Post by: vladir on Nov 13, 03:51 AM 2012
Hi Ralph. Can I try your bot?
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro - Casino Bot: by Thomas R. Grant
Post by: mobileuk on Dec 01, 07:03 AM 2012
The latest deadline (1st December) for the release of Roulette Bot Pro v4 has come.
So far now word or update.

Thomas, could you shed any further light on this?

I'm currently using Roulette Assault but this software someones messes up during bets. But it will have to do until Roulette Bot Pro 4 is released.

Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro - Casino Bot: by Thomas R. Grant
Post by: Roochla on Dec 03, 11:17 AM 2012
The release has now been postponed to NEXT YEAR! lol.

Third or fourth time this has happened with a month between each....doesnt look good.

The worst thing is that there has not even been an interim release to update the button change on Playtech so the bot at least works somewhere again. Surely basic functionality should be adressed as priority, however my thoughts are starting to be that the vendor has no control or programming ability so therefore is protecting any clickbank orders with this charade of a promised fix.

Pfft
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro - Casino Bot: by Thomas R. Grant
Post by: superman on Dec 03, 01:44 PM 2012
Quotemy thoughts are starting to be that the vendor has no control or programming ability so therefore is protecting any clickbank orders with this charade of a promised fix

As far as we know he has no programmer OR has one that can't be @rsed nothing has ever been quick for RBP why he's still accepting money for something that clearly doesn't do what it's supposed to - be a robot - playing roulette for you.

Send him money at your peril.
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro - Casino Bot: by Thomas R. Grant
Post by: Mattias on Dec 29, 12:58 PM 2012
Hi,

I am a (or was) user of the software and it used to be working great! But now the Roulette Bot Pro software only work's  in test mode for me - does anyone know if there is some casino where it still works?

/Mattias
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro - Casino Bot: by Thomas R. Grant
Post by: mobileuk on Dec 31, 12:25 PM 2012
As the deadline of 1st January approaches, guess what it has now changed to 1st February.

This seems to happen every month and there are still 'minor bugs'. If it has taken this long and the problems have still not been resolved then it should be described as major bugs.

Also continuing to sell the software which is clearly not working is a total scam.
People may buy the software see that it's not working but wait for the update which never comes. They will wait, see the deadlines change a few times then when they get fed up of waiting will realise that they have passed the refund period and will not get their money back.

Therefore, Mat Reams should suspend sales of the non working version as all the sales material is out of date and misleading.
If not then he as well as his affiliates who are promoting this non working version are all scammers.
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro - Casino Bot: by Thomas R. Grant
Post by: Roochla on Jan 04, 04:09 PM 2013
Agreed, once interesting sofware....now..... out and out scam.

Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro - Casino Bot: by Thomas R. Grant
Post by: MattR151 on Jan 04, 05:02 PM 2013
 This is too funny. This is NOT a scam. True the software doesn't work in auto mode but it does work in manual mode. Also people can try the free trial and use the 60 day money back guarantee. I am waiting for the latest version from my programmer, not much more I can do. I do not force people to buy it.
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro - Casino Bot: by Thomas R. Grant
Post by: Mattias on Jan 05, 07:09 AM 2013
Matt!

Will it be any enhanced features, for example playing your "own system" in a more free way?
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro - Casino Bot: by Thomas R. Grant
Post by: TwoCatSam on Jan 05, 11:17 AM 2013
Matt

Are you the Matt I know who owned the Super Roulette bot? 

Does anyone know this?

Sam
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro - Casino Bot: by Thomas R. Grant
Post by: MattR151 on Jan 05, 12:45 PM 2013
There are more features and stuff.  I am not the same Matt that owned Supre Roulette
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro - Casino Bot: by Thomas R. Grant
Post by: TwoCatSam on Jan 05, 12:50 PM 2013
OK, Matt, thanks!


Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro - Casino Bot: by Thomas R. Grant
Post by: Roochla on Jan 06, 10:03 AM 2013
I wouldnt hold your breath Sam, its been six months fixing "minor bugs". I emailed matt to ask if there was even one casino it worked at and received the reply 'not sure'.

There is a reason he is deliberately sketchy about any details or exactly what the hold up is.....waiting on his coder with a 600% increase in deadline no longer cuts it. I know coders who would have a fix for the moved playtech buttons done in hours.

He has lost control of the project yet continues to sell a defunct product whilst misleading current customers which includes those still in the refund period.

I could be wrong, he might update the website to let potential customers know the autoplay feature is disabled pending upgrade...or pm me on here so I can hook him up with a coder who will deliver the relatively minor changes needed to at least get it working again within hours.....or offer a refund to those who parted with money in good faith for an automated product.....but I doubt somehow that he will.
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro - Casino Bot: by Thomas R. Grant
Post by: superman on Jan 06, 10:59 AM 2013
QuoteI know coders who would have a fix for the moved playtech buttons done in hours.

You know some slow coders there mate, to reset the coordinates should not take any longer than 30 minutes, very easy.

I still can't understand why people want to use it anyway, even if it has methods/systems in it, they dont work, none work, we know this but still people want to spend money in hope, oh well.
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro - Casino Bot: by Thomas R. Grant
Post by: MattR151 on Jan 06, 11:14 AM 2013
 Its not just a matter or "resetting coordinates" There is much more than that that is being done. People also buy lotto tickets, your odds on roulette are much better :)

Its also not a matter of a slow programmer when he is programming.  It is a matter of him finding the time to actually do it.
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro - Casino Bot: by Thomas R. Grant
Post by: Roochla on Jan 08, 10:11 AM 2013
Dont you think you are letting your customers down being reliant on this individual?

What if the sites makes minor changes again (which they will)......is that it for 6 months again?



Superman, Agreed, hours is generous. However despite the limitations of RBP I have found a structure that stands up over millions of spins... more importantly over millions of placed bets. Currently I am coding this myself without the limitations I alluded to with RBP, but as you would expect going from scratch it is slow going and I am reluctant to have it coded for me as I would prefer to retain the key to my work.


Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro - Casino Bot: by Thomas R. Grant
Post by: superman on Jan 08, 10:52 AM 2013
QuoteCurrently I am coding this myself without the limitations I alluded to with RBP

Good to hear, once you've got your template you can put any method/system in it you like, thta's assuming you are coding your own bot, I've never looked back from building my own, I can play any table I like, real wheels or rng, no limits, over the years I have probably put over 2000 methods or variations of methods into it, there's nothing like having your own testbed.

Good luck to you
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro - Casino Bot: by Thomas R. Grant
Post by: MattR151 on Jan 08, 11:07 AM 2013
Quote from: Roochla on Jan 08, 10:11 AM 2013
don't you think you are letting your customers down being reliant on this individual?

What if the sites makes minor changes again (which they will)......is that it for 6 months again?

In a pefect world I would like this fixed asap.  But that is not reality.  RBP is over 100,000 lines of code.  Giving that code to another programmer to fix something would not be cost effective.  Also asking another programmer to look threw that to find the problem would be like finding a needle in a haystack because they did not write the code. To code RBP from scratch with all the same features with a new programmer would cost more than you think.  It is just a program not a lung machine.  Peoples lives don't depend on it.  I do the best I can and if people don't like it then not much I can do about that.
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro - Casino Bot: by Thomas R. Grant
Post by: mobileuk on Jan 13, 11:22 AM 2013
The Roulette Bot Pro site seems to be down and the about section of the software which had onformation of the release date of the new version has also gone.
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro - Casino Bot: by Thomas R. Grant
Post by: Roochla on Feb 01, 08:05 PM 2013
Another deadline extension....7 months of posting 'it is nearly done'. Lol

Promising software.....shame you and Tiago fell out Matt.

How long will you milk it?
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro - Casino Bot: by Thomas R. Grant
Post by: mobileuk on Feb 02, 05:25 AM 2013
Recently I received the following email twice.
It looks like Matt is trying to sell his non working software via private sales asking for payment to be sent as a gift so that there is no way anyone could dispute the payment or request a refund.

Now selling a faulty software with 'all profiles' with no money back guarantee is surely a SCAM.
The following is the originsl email message. I have deleted Matt's personal email address, the Roulette Bot Pro email address and the Roulette Bot Pro website address.

Dear Roulette Enthusiast;

I am offering a sale price of $35 US for the full version of Roulette Bot Pro plus all profiles. There is only one way to get it at this price. You must send the payment to me via Paypal or Moneybookers. When you are logged into Paypal at the top click on send money, enter in my personal email address, (I have deleted the email address) enter in $35 US, then you MUST click on "Personal" and select "Gift". P lease note at this price there is no money back guarantee.

Once you have paid forward your paypal receipt to me at (I have deleted the email address) and I will set you with the program.

Good luck at the tables;

Matt Creator of Roulette Bot Pro (website address deleted)

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Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro - Casino Bot: by Thomas R. Grant
Post by: superman on Feb 02, 08:32 AM 2013
Flogging a dead horse again, I still cant understand why people are still wanting this useless software, useless for 2 reasons, 1 there's no winning methods, 2 it only works in manual mode now.

And he's still trying to sell copies of the OLD none working one, lol, people give it up assign it to a grave already.
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro - Casino Bot: by Thomas R. Grant
Post by: mobileuk on Feb 02, 08:47 AM 2013
At present it is a scam software.

But when it is working with the settings I have discovered works very well. That is why I've been waiting for a fix but I've waited too long and will be giving up now.
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro - Casino Bot: by Thomas R. Grant
Post by: Roochla on Mar 04, 07:09 AM 2013
SCAM!! STEER CLEAR

6 or more months and still no automation fix.

Matt you are a peice of work. You dont have a coder even working this anymore, yet continue to pretend and deceive customers new and old.

Are you that hard up?  :xd:
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro - Casino Bot: by Thomas R. Grant
Post by: TwoCatSam on Mar 04, 07:16 AM 2013
Quote from: mobileuk on Feb 02, 08:47 AM 2013
At present it is a scam software.

But when it is working with the settings I have discovered works very well. That is why I've been waiting for a fix but I've waited too long and will be giving up now.

COMMERCIAL ALERT

mobileuk and Roochla

Guys, if you have a system that wins mechanically, why not contact Stef and Nick and have them program it into the ExcelBot for you?  I assure you, these guys are NOT scammers and produce exactly what they say they produce.  Refreshing in this day and age of thieves.  Yes, it will cost you a little but if you have a winning system, it would be well worth the expense.

I think it works on three casinos now.

Sam






Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro - Casino Bot: by Thomas R. Grant
Post by: shanecarter on Apr 18, 06:46 AM 2014
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