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Started by Wally Gator, Oct 09, 06:11 PM 2012

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Wally Gator

Quote from: rouletteKEY on Oct 20, 08:21 PM 2012
I normally gravitate to systems that play a smaller number of straight up inside bets and occassionally some dozens or streets...but this system is intriguing. 

I ran it against some actual spins from the MGM in Detroit and it fared pretty well excepting an ugly streak near the end of the one session (small session 120 spins).  It's a cyclical game so I expect the waves and in a small sample I just didn't have the next wave or two on the upside to balance out the one really bad run.  Everything else I tested was pretty solid in performance though.

But when you add a third column bet to the mix it made a difference.  I haven't had time to run more tests against actual numbers or work out a third column progression (maybe just a multiplier/factor of the inside unit bet?)  But it might be worth a look as a tweak.  Almost every one of the longer losing streaks that I saw in testing at least had a few third column hits to cut the drawdown and a few were just littered with hits that would have been making a profit on their own assuming the progression didn't get out of hand.

Although as I stated I generally like the dozens if I am not on the inside or in conjunction with a small number of inside bets...I have traditionally been a little gun-shy on the columns as they just seem streakier than the dozens and in my experience...well...let's just say it hasn't generally been a favorable streakiness situation for me over the years.  But in this case if the progression was lean enough it might be an enhancement that would be worth looking at.

Just something to think about anyway

Thanks for the contribution Wally


I've not tried this with a third column.  The bottom line with this method is that, like most, it waves with the Ecart, and you have to take advantage of that.  In your example of 120 spins, if you are on the down side then the wave will normally change within 100 spins.  I've had lousy sessions, but they always get me back to 0 or plus and while it turns into a wasted day I've not experienced much of a dip in my BR.


What I like most about this approach is that you are wagering 4 units to make either 5 or 8 on each win.  There are tons of various progressions you could use.  If you are concerned about the wave, simply wait and watch the direction before jumping in, or jump in at 1 unit until the wave comes and play it using a plus coup.


If you look at the layout on the 00 wheel, you will see that this also takes advantage of 2 sectors of the wheel and the zeros.  If you notice from the bet selection, it also takes advantage of the 0 finales bet.  So, again, here are 2 additional ways of playing it.


Another positive aspect is if you are on the down side of a wave, take your 4 units and play the 0 finales only.  It's also a good recovery method.  I don't have time to post examples, but if you look at what's written you'll easily see what I'm talking about.


Hope it helps.
A person with a new idea is a crank until the idea succeeds. ~ Mark Twain

TwoCatSam

Wally

I'm going to try again today.  I'll bet correctly this time and record the numbers.

Sam
If dogs don't go to heaven, when I die I want to go where dogs go.  ...Will Rogers

Wally Gator

A person with a new idea is a crank until the idea succeeds. ~ Mark Twain

TwoCatSam

Wally

Here are the numbers.  I underlined the hits.  At the first of the trot, they were few and far between but at one time there were five in a row and several within a few spins of each other.

I had to quit as I hit my loss limit.  I'm sure it would have pulled out had I stayed.

I missed three numbers, a 29 and back-to-back 8s.  The screen where you touch on this Roulette Evolution will not place the bets where you want them sometimes.  I could not get the corner 7 8 10 11 or the one with the 29 in it either.

Once they scolded me for hitting the screen!!

Sam
If dogs don't go to heaven, when I die I want to go where dogs go.  ...Will Rogers

Wally Gator

Sam, here are your numbers played through.  Had you played them out and correctly, you would have ended at +23.  Low was -217 and highest bet was 6.  Hope it helps.
A person with a new idea is a crank until the idea succeeds. ~ Mark Twain

TwoCatSam

Wally

Thank you for your time. 

If I may say a word or two in my defense:  When I sit down at the "wheel", invariably someone will sit down next to me and want an explanation.  This is why I like to play in my office at home.  I have some condition--attention deficit disorder--or something that makes is extremely difficult for me to keep my wits when someone talks to me.  Even my wife.

Nothing chaps me arse more than someone sitting down and asking, "How do you work this thing?"  Today an old, smoking geezer asked me what color was hitting.  Fifteen firggin' numbers on the marquee and he can't look up!!

I won't use a table saw with anyone within a hundred feet of me.  Seriously!!  I got all my fingers.

Sam
If dogs don't go to heaven, when I die I want to go where dogs go.  ...Will Rogers

Wally Gator

Sam, you're a funny guy!!  Yes, this strategy requires attention and, believe me, I can't stand it when everyone at the table needs to either know what you're doing or have to tell you how much they made tonight.  Of course, that would be at another table because what they're doing at your table is tanking badly.


Something I think what people here on the forums miss is that it is not that difficult to consistently win.  It takes alot of patience, a good amount of discipline and watching what the heck is going on, then play a strategy that fits what you are experiencing.  There are so many strategies right here that will easily allow for that.  But, the vast majority of us will never do it.  I'm not sure if it's the instant gratification gene within us or a lack of business sense.
A person with a new idea is a crank until the idea succeeds. ~ Mark Twain

TwoCatSam

Thank, Wally.  I try to see the lighter side; keeps me from going totally crazy.

I am a different person in my office/casino.  I still make mistakes, but I'm working to eliminate them.

What I wanted your idea for was when I get on-line gambling from Vegas.  That's when I'll truly put it to the test.

Also, I have not given up on the Zuma tester.  While my wife is recuperating, that will be where my time is spent.  That and on FLATman's systems.

So many systems; so little time!

Samster
If dogs don't go to heaven, when I die I want to go where dogs go.  ...Will Rogers

VegasArick

Just attempting to think outside the  box slightly, as I am looking over recent session numbers.

What about a "wait and hunt" approach with Wallys bet selection?

Not sure what the "optimal" number of consecutive Missed Hits would be,

but I am thinking 4 or 5 Missed spins in a row = Trigger and begin betting with GC'c progression on

the basket.
We are born "broke"
We will die "broke"
Everything in between is "flucuation" !

Wally Gator

There are many ways to play this.  4 is the optimal number.  Another option is to play a progression that allows for a second hit, then back to 1.


1,1,2,2,3,4,5,6,8,10,12,15,19,23, etc..... add last 3 and divide by 2 for the next number.  Need a large BR, but works exceptionally well.  Play for a back to back hit after the first 2 misses or a win, miss, win works.
A person with a new idea is a crank until the idea succeeds. ~ Mark Twain

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