Progressions?

[ignatus]

Ask if anyone use to play with progressions? And what progression would you recommend? (if any?)

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[Turner]

The more I read here Ignatus, the less I like progressions. I had a few chats to GLC on PM and I think they are as fascinating as systems, but I am sliding slowly towards the flat bet/few inside numbers camp.

Arnt progressions an admission that your system isnt working?....then again...what do I know LoL

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Turner

[ignatus]

I was thinking about the 4 corner progression.

I would cut it down to a 5 step progression: 1-2-4-7-12 and repeat (to decrease great losses)

What you think?

Cheers

[Turner]

I was thinking about the 4 corner progression.

I would cut it down to a 5 step progression: 1-2-4-7-12 and repeat (to decrease great losses)

What you think?

Cheers

Sorry...I was replying to your question Ask if anyone use to play with progressions? And what progression would you recommend? (if any?)

[ignatus]

Turner. Yes, I also like inside flat betting. I guess betting on ECs are too time consuming and it gives too little profit. I haven't yet found the ultimate inside bet? Except the 9 inside numbers I had a few lucky runs with... If you could perhaps share your favorite inside bet method i would be happy.  Still searching...

[ignatus]

"I would cut it down to a 5 step progression: 1-2-4-7-12 and repeat" This is not working. Played just now and lost straight away. Yes, i start to doubt progressions also... (atleast long ones!) There is nothing to do, sometimes you will not have a hit for 20 spins etc (in general) then a progression fails very bad

That's my experience anyway. Only a greater bankroll could save you? luck goes up and down, but if you got a good betting system you should win in the end.

[Drazen]

This is not working. Played just now and lost straight away. Yes, i start to doubt progressions also... (atleast long ones!) There is nothing to do

That's my experience anyway. Only a greater bankroll could save you? luck goes up and down, but if you got a good betting system you should win in the end.

My dear ignatus. If I may ask why do you hold only for progressions? You are relying only on those progressions like a drunk man relies on wall while staggers from bar to home...

You never mention any bet selection...

You can't win anything with progression by itself. To be honest you can't win 99% in any case with progression... You need to work on bet selection also.

This game is incredibly cruel... You are newbie and you have a lot lot to learn if you won't be stunned and rejected with games cruelty in meanwhile....

Try some systems from Mr. F_LAT_INO for example, or Mr. J. I hear people have some success with it. But first study and test it thourougly on past permanences.

You will see that they are using progressions also, but of course they have some bet selection. Every system has bet selection.

If you think to play anything randomly chosen you are same as st*pid gambler.

don't BECOME ONE OF THOSE!

don't take this as a rude, but I say everyone had s h i*e d their pants eventualy if they were messing with roulette. Either till they find a way to beat it, or either from lost money playing it wrong way.

Regards


Drazen

[Optimist]

Hi,

I am usually not posting but I would say that with time I less like the progressions.

It is my only opinion but the best progression for me I have seen is XXVV Whittacker progression  adaptation for 12 numbers. It is really strong - especially for BVNZ.

Regards

DL

[F_LAT_INO]

1+1- L/W and throughout play regulating balance as suits present situation,
or eventually in cycles of 3,5,7,9 as suits your play.

[ignatus]

drazen_cro, thanks for your post. Yes, I agree with what you say. At the same time I think the systems the "professionals" here has presented that i've seen so far seems very unintelligent to me. That "miracle system" "The five system" for an example involves tracking ALOT of numbers (i don't even understand his explanation!) then making a double dozen bet. Ofcourse you win MOST of the time with a double dozen bet, what is so special about that? It's just pure luck in my opinion. The other system G.U.T? I watched that video, for 1 hour the bankroll was the same...  sry for my complaint...

I could accept a short-trend system, that is easy to use and understand. But tracking 40 numbers, wait for complex combinations and making ONE bet is to time consuming, too unintelligent and furthermore it would be to boring to play.

Cheers

[Turner]

Turner. Yes, I also like inside flat betting. I guess betting on ECs are too time consuming and it gives too little profit. I haven't yet found the ultimate inside bet? Except the 9 inside numbers I had a few lucky runs with... If you could perhaps share your favorite inside bet method i would be happy.  Still searching...

Im with what Drazen said. read it back a few times....its good.
As for Flatino...Ive watched his methods for a while now.

its like there is no progression there. I look at ****5**** and instantly see 1-3-9-27 and worry.

I look at Flatinos ideas and the progression is like mortar in a wall. You dont go up to a wall and say "nice mortar" do you. You say"nice wall" All straight and perfect looking. But its nothing without the mortar, but the pointing on the wall isnt what you notice.


I think a progression shouldnt be a cure to a loss. It should be an integral part of the system. It should help the system through the lean times and not be needed when its hitting.

i have to admit I love betting on repeats. Look at Catch the 8 train. You dont have to play it, just get it. Its a clue to what the law of the third does. many times I walk in the casino and the marque shows 13 hit 3 times and 22 twice, 0 twice. What damage can you do betting 3U for a while you you settle in.

[Drazen]

drazen_cro, thanks for your post. Yes, I agree with what you say. At the same time I think the systems the "professionals" here has presented that i've seen so far seems very unintelligent to me. That "miracle system" "The five system" for an example involves tracking a lot of numbers (i don't even understand his explanation!) then making a double dozen bet. Ofcourse you win MOST of the time with a double dozen bet, what is so special about that? It's just pure luck in my opinion. The other system G.U.T? I watched that video, for 1 hour the bankroll was the same...  sry for my complaint...

I could accept a short-trend system, that is easy to use and understand. But tracking 40 numbers, wait for complex combinations and making ONE bet is to time consuming, too unintelligent and furthermore it would be to boring to play.

Cheers

Well I understand you in a way, but being patient enough for this game is also one of the most important factors.

If you dont like waiting for 40 spins to place 2 chips to earn one  you can look at mr. Flatinos systems.

He more prefferes continuos play what seems to me is case with you also.

He has 40 years experience of professional roulette playing. Definitely most experience here and most experienced you will ever heard of!

So every advice of such player worth not one cent, then 10.

Examine his systems, ask what isnt clear in the method/thread and he will help you . As any other member that can. We are opened comunity for helping and glancing some ideas if needed

And it isnt right to say some method is uninteligent, especialy if comes from professional player.

Anyway this game grinds even the most inteligent things you can think off...

Just be sure you know to recognize from whom is ok to take advice and from whom not.

Test, test, test-- conclude. Rinse and repeat!

That is only way to learn

Cheers and take care

Drazen

[Proofreaders2000]

Negative Progressions: {up unit(s) after a loss} tend to be dangerous, but a slight progression with a penthouse may be beneficial.

Double Dozens (example: 1,1   3,3--penthouse* stay at 3,3 until win

Even-chance: F_lat Ino progression: up one on a loss, less one on a win (with small stop-loss/win-target)

Atlantis' Dozens progression: 1,1,1,2,2,2,3,3,3...back two steps on a win.

Positive progressions: {up unit(s) after a win you play with the casino's money.}  You can make a lot of money quickly on a win-streak.

[ignatus]

Thanks

[ignatus]

Even-chance: F_lat Ino progression: up one on a loss, less one on a win (with small stop-loss/win-target)

THIS seems to be the Holy Grail for me!  amazing!  Thanks alot!!!!