Hyperion

[Turner]

But you are doing exactly the same with counter claims keeping the issue live

No one has broken any rules so lets move on.

[TurboGenius]

I meant no insult - but anyone who has tested and played methods and systems knows
full well what happens when playing like this.

Certain people complaining when someone tells them the truth - doesn't make the truth a lie.
I only tell the truth - that being that this is a terrible way to play, so move on to something else.
Calling someone a "bully" for telling you the truth and facts (which will help you along on your quest) is nonsense.
I could have pointed out each and every problem in detail - yes.
Nothing would change the fact that telling people the truth when something is terrible makes you
the bad guy (and I'm fine with that).

Do you want specifics then ?

A) "It makes the assuption that a dozen repeat is a rare event, and in most cases that seems to be true"
A dozen repeating is NOT a rare event - in any way whatsoever.
It happens at least once every 3 tries on average. This is simple and basic math.
It is the truth.

B) "TRIGGER" - as I've said in another thread - triggers have been PROVEN to not help the
player in any way whatsoever. There is no "event" that tells you what the next "event" will be
in a game where each spin is independent from the last.
This is simple and basic math. It is the truth.

C) "This will always make you recovered and ahead of the game."
No, it won't. The dozen repeats over and over - the 0 or the 0 / 00 appear, then the same
dozen repeats again (as you'll see in your tests). You lose a massive amount with this progression, and as you can see from the results - any profit is very small when it "does" work - therefore, one
progression loss (which is not rare) would wipe out countless hours of playing and winning the small profits. So the comment is not the truth - you won't "always" recover and be ahead.

D) "maximum step in progression was step 8 128u (1-2-4-8-16-32-64-128)" So I'll assume that playing in AC with a $10.00 min bet on the outside.. I need to eventually wager $1,280.00 on 2 different dozens and then pray to GOD that a 0 or 00 or that the dozen doesn't repeat - because then I'm screwed - and it DOES happen frequently, and I will be screwed. Do I want others to try this ? No.
Therefore I said so.

In closing (and I'll leave your thread alone) - I stick by what I said, it was not insulting - it was certainly not bullying in any way, shape or form.
If you want to sign up for college and then tell the professor that he's bullying you for trying
to teach you something - that's up to you. I won't waste my time further with it.
I've heard my share of "He thinks he knows everything" - fair enough, ignorance is bliss.
This type of progression and bet selection is very bad, and I would suggest no one play it with
'real' money.
Thanks for reading. Good luck with your journey - be able to accept criticism in the future.

[ignatus]

OK thanks for your reply TG, i will consider what you said

[TurboGenius]

Here is just some basic data from running spins.
I'm not sure if it helps or not - you can decide.

Worth noting - the "Max Interval" column - showing how many spins a dozen or column "didn't show" in a row.
Also - the "Max repeats" showing how many times a dozen or column repeated itself for that many spins.
The 0 and 00 aren't factored in either - which is bad because that is important info as well since in a method like this - that spin would count as a loss but in the chart wouldn't count because the streak of "same in a row" showing is broken and restarted. So it's important and not there. A code can be written to show this though.

[Normy2000]

I meant no insult - but anyone who has tested and played methods and systems knows
full well what happens when playing like this.

Certain people complaining when someone tells them the truth - doesn't make the truth a lie.
I only tell the truth - that being that this is a terrible way to play, so move on to something else.
Calling someone a "bully" for telling you the truth and facts (which will help you along on your quest) is nonsense.
I could have pointed out each and every problem in detail - yes.
Nothing would change the fact that telling people the truth when something is terrible makes you
the bad guy (and I'm fine with that).

Do you want specifics then ?

A) "It makes the assuption that a dozen repeat is a rare event, and in most cases that seems to be true"
A dozen repeating is NOT a rare event - in any way whatsoever.
It happens at least once every 3 tries on average. This is simple and basic math.
It is the truth.

B) "TRIGGER" - as I've said in another thread - triggers have been PROVEN to not help the
player in any way whatsoever. There is no "event" that tells you what the next "event" will be
in a game where each spin is independent from the last.
This is simple and basic math. It is the truth.

C) "This will always make you recovered and ahead of the game."
No, it won't. The dozen repeats over and over - the 0 or the 0 / 00 appear, then the same
dozen repeats again (as you'll see in your tests). You lose a massive amount with this progression, and as you can see from the results - any profit is very small when it "does" work - therefore, one
progression loss (which is not rare) would wipe out countless hours of playing and winning the small profits. So the comment is not the truth - you won't "always" recover and be ahead.

D) "maximum step in progression was step 8 128u (1-2-4-8-16-32-64-128)" So I'll assume that playing in AC with a $10.00 min bet on the outside.. I need to eventually wager $1,280.00 on 2 different dozens and then pray to GOD that a 0 or 00 or that the dozen doesn't repeat - because then I'm screwed - and it DOES happen frequently, and I will be screwed. Do I want others to try this ? No.
Therefore I said so.

In closing (and I'll leave your thread alone) - I stick by what I said, it was not insulting - it was certainly not bullying in any way, shape or form.
If you want to sign up for college and then tell the professor that he's bullying you for trying
to teach you something - that's up to you. I won't waste my time further with it.
I've heard my share of "He thinks he knows everything" - fair enough, ignorance is bliss.
This type of progression and bet selection is very bad, and I would suggest no one play it with
'real' money.
Thanks for reading. Good luck with your journey - be able to accept criticism in the future.

well said 

[Normy2000]

 

OK thanks for your reply TG, i will consider what you said

well received 

[TurboGenius]

"Math boys need to realize that hobbyists dont give a damn about the math they are not interested."

This is a game based almost totally on math (lol).
How does one ignore the basics of the game and expect to have success ?
As a "hobby" - playing on a computer for pretend money ? Of course. Have at it.
I tend to think that people are looking for ways to play that can provide them actual $ profit.

So a surfing competitor shouldn't bother learning about the ocean or waves or even the type of boards they are using - they shouldn't listen to people who have won competitions and have massive knowledge on the subject ? No ? Just cross your fingers, listen to the bystanders advice and then go out into the ocean and "have a fun 'ol time...."
Nonsense. You'll never win - this is a casino game we all want to "win".

[MrJ]

"they shouldn't listen to people who have won competitions and have massive knowledge on the subject ? No ? Just cross your fingers, listen to the bystanders advice and then go out into the ocean and "have a fun 'ol time...."
Nonsense. You'll never win" >>> BINGO.

I guess you say it better than me Turbo (lol). I would have inserted at least 5 foul names. Point being, regardless who says it...... they (not all) need to realize what does NOT work. Then like going up a ladder, learn step by step. I have to stop now.....too much in my head to post (stop Ken, stop!).

Guys, knowing what does NOT work is 75% of the battle !!!! Think about that, you would be 75% *CLOSER* to a decent method (never a HG).

Ken

[MrJ]

“I cannot teach anybody anything. I can only make them think”

  Socrates

[RouletteGhost]

We are just a couple of goofs at another forum, that's all we are.........so what does it matter anyways.

[NextYear]

We are just a couple of goofs at another forum, that's all we are.........so what does it matter anyways.

....."another forum" ?

[NextYear]

@ Turbo

Thanks for time invested. I am sure that helps and we will never again want to see playing DD with Martingale.
For sure one of the things that not work.

Any advice on what to concentrate in future attempts?

[Turner]

We are just a couple of goofs at another forum, that's all we are.........so what does it matter anyways.

Your upset? I said similar to Turbo and no one thanked me !. I think they all hate me
Damn that Turbo and his good looks

[TurboGenius]

Your upset? I said similar to Turbo and no one thanked me !. I think they all hate me
Damn that Turbo and his good looks

lol 

[Run4Lyf]

Just out of curiosity, did you arrive to the stop-loss after the 10th game and had lost 460u? would the strategy been  different if, may be, you made losses above 500u? or at least the stop-loss?