Back and Forth...Double-Dozens

[rolf-harris]

This is a method I have devised for betting double-dozens.
I know roulette is random but this idea tries to follow the
trend of the wheel  for selection purposes.

First look at the following numbers (dozens )........123123123123123 etc.
These can be described as going forwards whereas the following ... 321321321321321321   are going backwards.
Anyhow ,what we do to start is to look at the last dozen spun and compare it to the dozen spun just before it.
It will either have been a forwards or backward jump....
For example  the two last dozens were  1,2.....a forward direction
                                                                              2, 3.....also forwards
                                                                               3, 1 ....forwards.( looping round )
                                                                                3,2......backwards
                                                                                 1,3 ....backwards
                                                                                  2,1.....backwards.
So, that decides for  which way we will be selecting our double dozens.( direction of selection)
Basically the idea is to always bet the same dozen as the  last dozen spun  moving forwards or backwards from  this  to pick the second dozen.
On a loss it will mean our direction has changed so the next two dozens to be bet on will be  the same as last ( as always)  plus the adjacent dozen in the new direction..

an example..
First to find initial direction..last 2 dozens were, say, 3 and  2....this means our direction will be backwards to start with..
so bet selection will be last dozen and the dozen directly backwards from it ..ie. 2 and  1
If we win we consider ourselves to be still in the same direction..
In above example , supposing dozen 2 wins... then we repeat the same exact same bet. according to the rules.
If dozen 1 had won the the next two dozens would be 1 and 3. ...working backwards still.
Assumming first bet had lost. ie  dozen 3 was spun..well now the direction has changed to forwards. so the next two selections will be 3 (last spin ) and dozen 1 ( forwards) .
So that's it ..of course ,after a loss and change of direction the stakes will need to be increased if you are using a double-dozens progression of 1_1, 3_3, 9_9,27_27...etc.
Always select in the same direction until forced to change when a loss shows up..
Aim to make say 10 units per session. Then take a break of whatever time you like  and come back to try to make another 10 units.
It would be interesting to know if level stakes would  work also .but I have not had much experience with the RX thingy.

[Turner]

Rolf, it would help me if you wrote more examples.

I don't like double streets...but i like the idea that it "self picks" the bet. Its definatly original.

just 1,2,3 format with the bet/w/l in brackets. Any chance?

Turner

[rolf-harris]

Will do some more for you to peruse. But I am on the night shift just at the moment.tomorrow maybeYes, I like to be able to follow a system.win or lose. religiously. This method points to what the bet is itself. That way I dont have to work my brain too much. The idea with this method is you are at least attempting to follow what the wheel is actually doing. If it sticks in forward mode you are winning .If it sticks in backward mode you are winning and if the same dozen has a bunch of repeats you are winning.
You lose when you get a run of forward.backward.forward backward. . .
But you cant expect to win all the time ,can you.. . Lol

[Roughy]

Isn't this the Eggleston Betting method? If I remember correctly you followed the dozens in a right or left direction like this. I gave up on it quite quickly but I don't really like double dozen systems so that may just have been me. Good luck with it anyway.

Cheers
Roughy

[rolf-harris]

It may well have been thought of before. I don't suppose there are many things that haven't.
but as Turner requested here is a bit more on the system/method with some sample bets.
You will have to forgive me for maybe repeating some stuff but I want people to understand the forward and reverse idea fully.

Before we start here are the forwards and backward sequences if you need to refer to them...
Forward... 123123123123123123123 etc
Backwards ..321321321321321321321...etc
To try and encapsulate the betting method ...it is basically this...
Bet on the last dozen spun every time and the dozen to the left or right of this according to which direction the wheel is prompting.
Ie , for example if dozen 2 spins, followed by dozen 3... then this can be called forward movement.
but if dozen 2 spins followed by dozen 1... then this is backward movement.
Referring to the above .
Anyhow its a double dozen bet.
I generated a load of numbers on a RNG app on my phone to show how to bet.. let's hope they produce a profit.



2.     ( observed only )
1.      ( observed only ).......this puts us in backwards mode. We  stay  there till a loss

continuing...
Mode                  Dozens Bet.              Stakes.                 Dozen  Spun.           Result.             Profit/loss
B.                               1, 3.                             1-1                              1.                          W.                           +1
B.                                1, 3.                             1-1.                             2.                          L.                            -1
F.                                 2, 3                              3-3.                             3.                          W.                          +2
F.                                 3, 1.                              1-1.                             2.                          L.                              Level
B.                                 2, 1.                              3-3.                             2.                         W.                           +3
B.                                 2, 1.                             1-1.                              3.                         L.                              +1
F.                                 3, 1.                              3-3.                             3.                          W.                            +
F.                                 3, 1.                              1-1.                             1.                           W.                           +5
F.                                 1, 2                                1-1.                             1.                          W.                            +6
F.                                 1, 2.                               1-1.                            2.                           W.                            +7
F.                                 2, 3.                               1-1.                            3.                           W.                            +8
F.                                 3, 1.                               1-1.                            2.                            L.                            +6
B.                                 2, 1.                               3-3.                            1.                           W.                            +9
B.                                 1, 3.                                1-1.                            2.                           L.                             +7
F.                                  2, 3.                               3-3.                            1.                            L.                             +1
B.                                  1, 3.                               9-9.                            3.                           W.                            +10
B.                                   3, 2.                              1-1.                            3.                           W.                            +11


So you would need a bank of at least 80 units if you were to reach the 27-27 stage
of betting. Dare I say play Hit and Run, as well.

[rolf-harris]

Meanwhile I will do a bit of Googling the Egglestone Method to see what that's all about..

[Roughy]

Hi Rolf

I wasn't having a go. Like you say, most systems posted here are probably a variation on previous methods thought of.

And sorry, I should have posted a link to the system. Here is one: link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=4247.0

and you can find more by searching on here and on vls forum.

Cheers
Roughy

[rolf-harris]

Hey-up Roughy,
Why would you think that I would think you were " having a go"........lol
Of course not.
Working on the night-shift like I do I get a bit of time to play around with ideas but as a Yorkshireman  ( ie. tight..lol)? have never taken any of them into a bricks and mortar casino, I try them out on live-wheel apps I've downloaded or the SuperCasino channel that's on Sky.
When I Googled the Eggleston method I found it works, for the most part, like my idea..apart from some variations on staking and maybe trigger points.....for forwards and back.
But , reading further, the Eggleston way seems to be
aimed at smaller profits but with a safer progression.
Maybe I could learn something from this  ,however, instead of going for the riskier progression and attempting to win 1 unit for every spin. Its something to look at.
Staking apart though, my idea was to find a simple rule I could follow to make the bet selection and attempt to tie this in with what the wheel is actually doing.
By the way, I once had an account with an online casino, a year or two back.
I  got my fingers burnt , lost around £100 and vowed not to return until I had the Holy Grail.....lol
So I spend my time trawling this forum hoping to find new ideas and , hopefully, the HG on here.

[Roughy]

That's good then Rolf, I'm just aware that sometimes replies can come across a bit wrong, without the benefit of infliction etc.

I've given up on the usual progression for double dozens, just too scary for me! But the hit-rate of this seems good so a gentler progression could we work. I think I'll take another look at it. (*edited this bit out, just realised I was talking rubbish - as usual! lol)

And until earlier this year I lived in Yorkshire! "'ow much?!" :-)

Cheers
Roughy

[rolf-harris]

I know what you mean ..things come across different when written down.
Reminds me of once, in a chat room, I jokingly told a guy his cigarette patches would work better if he stuck them over his mouth. ( meaning he wouldn't then be able to insert a cigarette )
He took this to mean I was telling him to shut his mouth up and he got quite irate.
I didn't bother trying to explain the joke.......