3 eggs in a basket!

[GLC]

This system is so easy to play, I can't believe it performs so well.

We're betting double dozens or columns in sets of 3.

The bet selection is the last 2 to hit or the 2 farthest back or the last and the farthest back.  They all work.

The twist is that we don't change bet locations until we've bet the 2 dozs selected for 3 times, win or lose.

So, if the last 2 dozens were the 1 & 3 dozens, we would bet the 1 & 3 dozens for the next 3 spins even if we lose all 3 bets.  Then we can change to the next 2 dozens if called for (sometimes we won't change at all if we catch the dozen we're not betting on taking a nap).

Our progression is:  1-1; 1-1; 1-1; 2-2; 2-2; 2-2; 3-3; 3-3; 3-3; 4-4; 4-4; 4-4; etc...

We keep moving up the line until we are back to even or plus.  This is like my forced win progression where we keep bulling our way through until we finally reach a new profit.

We never bet more than enough to reach +1.  Meaning that if we are betting 9-9 and we win and it puts us at -3, our next bet is 4-4.  If we lose we just continue our line from the 4's.

If we are on bet 2 of our 3 bet set and we reach a new high, our next bet is 1-1 but we don't change bet locations.  Only change bet locations after 3 bets at the current locations.  You can change bet amounts within the 3 bet set, but you can't change bet locations until you've bet those locations 3 times.

I'm going to make the statement that Hermes made regarding his leveller bet progression.  "There can be some swings, but if you stay with this, it will always pull out of the hole, eventually."  That's not a guarantee any more than it was when he made it, so be sure and set you personal stop-loss, just in case.

Almost all of my systems are based on a 200 to 300 unit bankroll.  This one can be played with 100 units, but you should have a couple of 100 unit banks backing it up just in case the worst happens.

What makes this system work is the sets of 3 bet on the same location instead of changing each bet depending on which dozen hits.  This and the forced win progression in sets of 3.  This 3:3 combination is a powerhouse.

Finally, you can tweak this to suit yourself so there's no real need to ask me a lot of questions.

I'll post a short example next if I get a chance.  But not tonight.

Happy New Year,

GLC

[ignatus]

I've almost given up on doubledozen betting! But the ladder progression makes it worth. It's a slow winner, but it seems to work pretty well.

I misunderstood the progression rules :S so I played it another way, I go to next step in progression after 2 losses in a row only. And reset after my imaginary win goal, maybe +5 +10 units etc...

Thanks GLC

[catalyst]

So, if the last 2 dozens were the 1 & 3 dozens, we would bet the 1 & 3 dozens for the next 3 spins even if we lose all 3 bets.  Then we can change to the next 2 dozens if called for (sometimes we won't change at all if we catch the dozen we're not betting on taking a nap).

Our progression is:  1-1; 1-1; 1-1; 2-2; 2-2; 2-2; 3-3; 3-3; 3-3; 4-4; 4-4; 4-4; etc...

We keep moving up the line until we are back to even or plus.  This is like my forced win progression where we keep bulling our way through until we finally reach a new profit.

George
Greetings for you, your wife and daughter Grace.
May God bless you all.

I was thinking to tell you that Your '2 up and 0 down progression' with safety break and readjustment after win is the best progression 'ever known to mankind' --dubbed by me as multi level flatbet work for every resonable bet selection--so secure this ladder progression--even FireFighters want to buy this ladder!

[ego]

Hello, i like this idea and i try to develop a march very similar towards your approach above.

The main idea was to aim for one repeat or break even.
So you follow the last hit dozen and if it lose you bet the last two present dozen's ...
Did never think of what kind of staking play would work with that kind of strategy.

Cheers

[Proofreaders2000]

Welcome back GLC     Haven't seen you in a while.

[leknightroulette]

Thanks GLC, looks interesting let try it

[GLC]

Welcome back GLC     Haven't seen you in a while.

To be honest, along with Atlantis, I've started looking into sports betting using some of the progression ideas that can be found on this very forum.  Also, no zeros lurking around the corner.  And, if you learn handicapping better than the average punter, you can have an edge which makes a solid progression pretty powerful.

Having said that, I still like to have a system for roulette that's simple to play and gives me a decent chance to win when I go to the casino.  This one's not too bad.  I've been kickin' my brother's behind with it lately.  Of course he's still wasting time on slot machines so what can you expect.

GLC

P.S.  For this system, zeros are just another loss.

[GLC]

A short example:

dozens

1                No bet yet
3                Now we can bet 1-1 on dozs 1&3 on the next spin
1                Win 1 unit  bet 1-1 again on dozs 1&3 on next spin  +1
2                Lose 2 units bet 1-1 again on dozs 1&3 on next spin  1-2=-1
2                Lose 2 units.  That's 3 bets at 1-1 and 3 bets on dozs 1&3 so we bet 2-2 on dozs 1&2 next.  -1-2=-3
1                Win 2 units.  -3+2=-1.  Bet 2-2 on dozs 1&2 next.
3                Lose 4 units.  -1-4=-5.  Bet 2-2 for 3rd and last time on dozs 1&2 next. 
2                Win 2 units.  -5+2=-3.  Bet 3-3 on new dozs 2&3 next.
3                Win 3 units.  -3+3=0.  Since we're at zero, we can reset our bet amount. So bet 1-1 on dozs 2&3

etc...

It's pretty simple.  It's easier to play than to explain.

GLC

[leknightroulette]

Well i tried this method 3 times today with RX i  begun to winning around 7 to 10 chips with $10 chip each DZ, after 4 or 5 min my final balance was -960 and i played exact as you say and the 3 times i played my final balance was negative
Example
I played 10 dz 1 and 10 dz 3 then 2 of 3 spins it hits on dozen 2 and then again with the 2nd progression and then it hits 3 times on the not betted dozen, it happens often

Cheers

[Jeromin]

To be honest, along with Atlantis, I've started looking into sports betting using some of the progression ideas that can be found on this very forum.  Also, no zeros lurking around the corner.  And, if you learn handicapping better than the average punter, you can have an edge which makes a solid progression pretty powerful.

Yes! Roulette is a tough game that demands sophisticated betting systems. Sports betting, in my case horse racing, can benefit from this knowledge. Far fewer losing streaks, far less random. And no table limit, if played right...


Jeromin

[GLC]

Yes! Roulette is a tough game that demands sophisticated betting systems. Sports betting, in my case horse racing, can benefit from this knowledge. Far fewer losing streaks, far less random. And no table limit, if played right...


Jeromin

I'm with you, Jeromin.

Back to this system.  Here's a tweak that will temper the drawdowns a little.

Bet 1-1 on the 2 dozens of your choice.  Continue to bet 1-1 until you win 3 times in a row.  Every time you lose, you switch dozens and start your 3 wins in a row count over.

Once you win 3 times in a row, if you have a negative balance, stay at the current level if 3 wins in a row will reach a new profit.  If 3 wins in a row at the current level won't reach a new profit then add 1 unit to you bets and start for 3 wins in a row.  Keep working your way up the ladder until you reach a new profit.

Any time you win 3 in a row and the current level or the current level plus 1 puts you over plus 1 with 3 wins in a row, drop back to the level that will reach a new profit with 3 wins in a row.  So, if you're at 6-6 and after 3 wins in a row you are only down -5,  you wouldn't go to 7-7 because 3 wins in a row nets you +21 units.  Nor would you stay at 6-6 because that nets you 18 units.  Rather you would drop back to 2-2 because 3 wins in a row nets you +6 units less the 5 you are down = +1, new profit.  Reset at 1-1 and start again.

By the way, you can play this on any of the bet locations.  Just adjust the number of times you must win in a row before you adjust your bet size.  I tried it on straight up numbers and it works great.  Just cover 35 numbers with 1 unit each.  Stay at 1 unit each until you win 35 times in a row and then adjust by either staying at 1 unit or going to 2 units.  Granted, a few early losses can take a while to dig your way out of, but, such is the price of playing roulette.  Also, make sure you have enough bank to play through a reasonable losing streak at -35 units per loss.

Straight up number can be hairy, but with a little luck, you can net 50 or so units pretty quick.

Buyer beware!

GLC

[vladir]

I'm with you, Jeromin.

Back to this system.  Here's a tweak that will temper the drawdowns a little.

Bet 1-1 on the 2 dozens of your choice.  Continue to bet 1-1 until you win 3 times in a row.  Every time you lose, you switch dozens and start your 3 wins in a row count over.

Once you win 3 times in a row, if you have a negative balance, stay at the current level if 3 wins in a row will reach a new profit.  If 3 wins in a row at the current level won't reach a new profit then add 1 unit to you bets and start for 3 wins in a row.  Keep working your way up the ladder until you reach a new profit.

Any time you win 3 in a row and the current level or the current level plus 1 puts you over plus 1 with 3 wins in a row, drop back to the level that will reach a new profit with 3 wins in a row.  So, if you're at 6-6 and after 3 wins in a row you are only down -5,  you wouldn't go to 7-7 because 3 wins in a row nets you +21 units.  Nor would you stay at 6-6 because that nets you 18 units.  Rather you would drop back to 2-2 because 3 wins in a row nets you +6 units less the 5 you are down = +1, new profit.  Reset at 1-1 and start again.

By the way, you can play this on any of the bet locations.  Just adjust the number of times you must win in a row before you adjust your bet size.  I tried it on straight up numbers and it works great.  Just cover 35 numbers with 1 unit each.  Stay at 1 unit each until you win 35 times in a row and then adjust by either staying at 1 unit or going to 2 units.  Granted, a few early losses can take a while to dig your way out of, but, such is the price of playing roulette.  Also, make sure you have enough bank to play through a reasonable losing streak at -35 units per loss.

Straight up number can be hairy, but with a little luck, you can net 50 or so units pretty quick.

Buyer beware!

GLC

That's interesting... really! How would you adapt it to a bet on EC(3 units base bet)+1dozen(2 units base bet)?

[GLC]

That's interesting... really! How would you adapt it to a bet on EC(3 units base bet)+1dozen(2 units base bet)?

Vladir,  Your request is not so easy.  I said this could be adapted to any bet position on the table, but it's really for betting all but 1 of each bet type.  For betting 2 dozens out of 3 we have to win 3 times in a row before we consider changing our bet size, for betting 5 out of 6 lines we have to win 6 times in a row before we can evaluate our bet size, for betting 11 out of 12 streets we have to win 12 times in a row before evaluating, for betting 17 out of 18 splits etc... and for betting 35 out of 36 straight up numbers etc.... 

So for even chance, we are betting 1 out of 2 and we have to win 2 times in a row before evaluating.

For a single dozen it's not so clean.  Here's what I would do.  Play to win 2 times out of 3 tries.  If I only win 1 time out of 3 tries, I stay at the current bet size.  If I win the 1st 2 tries, I would evaluate without playing the 3rd try since I already won my 2 times.  If I lose the 1st or 2nd try, then of course we have to play all 3.  If I lose the 1st and 2nd try, then I don't play the 3rd try because I can't possibly win 2 times for this triplet.  Every time I win my 2 times, I would evaluate to see if I should reset or increase my bet by 1 unit.  Any time I get close enough to a new profit that I don't have to increase my bet size, I will evaluate how far down the bet line I can go so that a double win will net me at least +1.

I think we must play each bet separately from the other.  So we have 1 progression for the even chance bet and 1 progression for the doz bet.  Any time we are at a new high overall, we can reset both progressions or we can just play them independently.  It gives me a headache thinking about trying to meld the two together using a blended progression.

I don't know why you want to start at 3 and 2 but it should play the same as starting at 1 and 1.  Evaluate after the proper number of wins and either add 1, stay a current bet, adjust back down the line or reset.

I'm not saying this is the only way to play it, it's just the way I would play it.

LOL,

GLC

[Robeenhuut]

I'm with you, Jeromin.

Back to this system.  Here's a tweak that will temper the drawdowns a little.

Bet 1-1 on the 2 dozens of your choice.  Continue to bet 1-1 until you win 3 times in a row.  Every time you lose, you switch dozens and start your 3 wins in a row count over.

Once you win 3 times in a row, if you have a negative balance, stay at the current level if 3 wins in a row will reach a new profit.  If 3 wins in a row at the current level won't reach a new profit then add 1 unit to you bets and start for 3 wins in a row.  Keep working your way up the ladder until you reach a new profit.

Any time you win 3 in a row and the current level or the current level plus 1 puts you over plus 1 with 3 wins in a row, drop back to the level that will reach a new profit with 3 wins in a row.  So, if you're at 6-6 and after 3 wins in a row you are only down -5,  you wouldn't go to 7-7 because 3 wins in a row nets you +21 units.  Nor would you stay at 6-6 because that nets you 18 units.  Rather you would drop back to 2-2 because 3 wins in a row nets you +6 units less the 5 you are down = +1, new profit.  Reset at 1-1 and start again.

By the way, you can play this on any of the bet locations.  Just adjust the number of times you must win in a row before you adjust your bet size.  I tried it on straight up numbers and it works great. Just cover 35 numbers with 1 unit each.  Stay at 1 unit each until you win 35 times in a row and then adjust by either staying at 1 unit or going to 2 units.  Granted, a few early losses can take a while to dig your way out of, but, such is the price of playing roulette.  Also, make sure you have enough bank to play through a reasonable losing streak at -35 units per loss.

Straight up number can be hairy, but with a little luck, you can net 50 or so units pretty quick.

Buyer beware!

GLC

Are you really recommending betting on 35 numbers?

[vladir]

Vladir,  Your request is not so easy.  I said this could be adapted to any bet position on the table, but it's really for betting all but 1 of each bet type.  For betting 2 dozens out of 3 we have to win 3 times in a row before we consider changing our bet size, for betting 5 out of 6 lines we have to win 6 times in a row before we can evaluate our bet size, for betting 11 out of 12 streets we have to win 12 times in a row before evaluating, for betting 17 out of 18 splits etc... and for betting 35 out of 36 straight up numbers etc.... 

So for even chance, we are betting 1 out of 2 and we have to win 2 times in a row before evaluating.

For a single dozen it's not so clean.  Here's what I would do.  Play to win 2 times out of 3 tries.  If I only win 1 time out of 3 tries, I stay at the current bet size.  If I win the 1st 2 tries, I would evaluate without playing the 3rd try since I already won my 2 times.  If I lose the 1st or 2nd try, then of course we have to play all 3.  If I lose the 1st and 2nd try, then I don't play the 3rd try because I can't possibly win 2 times for this triplet.  Every time I win my 2 times, I would evaluate to see if I should reset or increase my bet by 1 unit.  Any time I get close enough to a new profit that I don't have to increase my bet size, I will evaluate how far down the bet line I can go so that a double win will net me at least +1.

I think we must play each bet separately from the other.  So we have 1 progression for the even chance bet and 1 progression for the doz bet.  Any time we are at a new high overall, we can reset both progressions or we can just play them independently.  It gives me a headache thinking about trying to meld the two together using a blended progression.

I don't know why you want to start at 3 and 2 but it should play the same as starting at 1 and 1.  Evaluate after the proper number of wins and either add 1, stay a current bet, adjust back down the line or reset.

I'm not saying this is the only way to play it, it's just the way I would play it.

LoL,

GLC

GLC, thanks for your answer.
I bet 3+2 so I always win 1 unit if it hits the EC or the dozen I'm betting (If I played 1+1, I would only win 1 unit if the dozen hits). It's the same as playing 5 lines out of 6, but with the twist that I play this on french tables and when 0 hits, I recover half of the EC bet.