The safest progression?

[Jordsie669]

What is the safest roulette progression that I can use?
Regards.

[superman]

That would depend on where you want to use it.

I wouldn't recommend building a method around a progression, you should first have a method, see the WWLLLWWLWLWWLL runs then decide how you could attack it, see how the wins group, are the losses happening in 1s or 2 or more consecutive happenings.

There's no 'safe' progression, think rather of ratchetting or incrementing your bet size, like I said in another thread to you, if you had an EC bet that saw results forming

WWLWWWLLWWWLWWWWWWLLWWW

You could use +1 on a loss and either stay at thta size until ahead or drop a few notches, depends where you are at, if you have heavy losses do not try recovering all in 1 bet

[Jordsie669]

But where the martingale always doubles, isn't there a safer alternative like:
1 3 6 10 15 21 28 or something? isn't there any safer alternative than the martingale?

PS: the alternative i gave was just for example purposes it won't work

[iggiv]

for EC there is a golden progression: 2,1,2,3...

it's used on a win. if lost just start wait and start over again.
remember progressions should not go too deep, or it's gonna be a disaster

[Jordsie669]

for EC there is a golden progression: 2,1,2,3...

it's used on a win. if lost just start wait and start over again.
remember progressions should not go too deep, or it's gonna be a disaster

I don't get it 2,1,2,3... Maybe you made a typo?
and sorry for asking this, but everywhere on this forum i see "EC",
But what does EC actually mean?

[superman]

But what does EC actually mean

EC = even chance bets, red/black, high/low, odd/even

[ego]

That would depend on where you want to use it.

I wouldn't recommend building a method around a progression, you should first have a method, see the WWLLLWWLWLWWLL runs then decide how you could attack it, see how the wins group, are the losses happening in 1s or 2 or more consecutive happenings.

There's no 'safe' progression, think rather of ratchetting or incrementing your bet size, like I said in another thread to you, if you had an EC bet that saw results forming

WWLWWWLLWWWLWWWWWWLLWWW

You could use  1 on a loss and either stay at thta size until ahead or drop a few notches, depends where you are at, if you have heavy losses do not try recovering all in 1 bet

That is very good input from Superman, it all about your sequential selection and what kind of variance you have.
We also define it as LW-Registry ...

I lately mention both or show at least two options.
One is that you follow the varianse and are due to accept more loses.
Or you keep it tight and just play to win once for each cycle, it is a difference.

I think regression as fast you gain a decent win target is the way to go - so when you winning with winnings you can not lose parts of your bankroll.

I also think it helps to aim for winning two session out of three.

WW - Win two sessions out of three
WLW - Win two session out of three
LWW - Win two session out of three
LLW - Accept a small loss
LLL - You lose three session in a row

You might get a highet hit ratio, like hitting two, three or four session out of five.
At least you aim to win two out of three - overall game strategy.

Then two sessions has to overcome one loss.
Then you got to fix a good money management strategy to achive that.

There is more ...

[iggiv]

this progression goes like that:

u bet 2 units on EC, for example RED. What EC u already know. u lose. u wait. better to wait because it can be losing streak. or u can just bet right away but better not to.

if u win, u got 2 units. Now u bet again 1 unit. If u lose u still have 1 unit, if u r on a winning strike u get one more unit, u now have 3 units. now u bet 2 units. if u lose u still got 1 unit left, u did not lose. but if your winning streak continues, u got now 5 units. And so on.

the sense of this progression is that if u won first time, u won't lose anymore on this betting cycle. But if you get
a winning streak, then u will make good money.

all this is not a guarantee to win anyway. I don't like progressions and EC. i don't like outside bets.


i can recommend u a couple of good inexpensive ebooks u can get online. The authors are Brett Morton and Lee Tutor. They will teach u about this stuff.

Reading the forum is good, but the problem is that here with really smart ideas and stuff there is lot of B/S here.
Some people will tell u totally wrong things and instead will tell u about right things that they are B/S instead.
there are some self taught "gurus" here, which never played roulette for real, instead imaging themselves as
genius.

though these authors don't guarantee that u win, at least if follow them u won't lose much (as much as u can lose now when u don't know anything about roulette, sorry to tell u that, but this is what i see), and there is a chance that u will win too.

[ego]

Did not know there is a Brett Morton PDF around ...

[ego]

this progression goes like that:

u bet 2 units on EC, for example RED. What EC u already know. u lose. u wait. better to wait because it can be losing streak. or You can just bet right away but better not to.

if u win, u got 2 units. Now u bet again 1 unit. If u lose u still have 1 unit, if u r on a winning strike u get one more unit, u now have 3 units. now u bet 2 units. if u lose u still got 1 unit left, u did not lose. but if your winning streak continues, u got now 5 units. And so on.

the sense of this progression is that if u won first time, u won't lose anymore on this betting cycle. But if you get
a winning streak, then u will make good money.

all this is not a guarantee to win anyway. I don't like progressions and EC. i don't like outside bets.


i can recommend u a couple of good inexpensive ebooks You can get online. The authors are Brett Morton and Lee Tutor. They will teach u about this stuff.

Reading the forum is good, but the problem is that here with really smart ideas and stuff there is lot of B/S here.
Some people will tell u totally wrong things and instead will tell u about right things that they are B/S instead.
there are some self taught "gurus" here, which never played roulette for real, instead imaging themselves as
genius.

though these authors don't guarantee that u win, at least if follow them u won't lose much (as much as You can lose now when u don't know anything about roulette, sorry to tell u that, but this is what i see), and there is a chance that u will win too.

The truth has many sides.

One is the pysics is the only solution one other truth is that some member succed winning 15000 Euro during one year with shitty systems, so if you can accept that all system fail as first lesson you are on the right track.
Secound would be to explore a way to win more sessions that you lose and that does winnings overcome your loses.

Others would say it does not matter what you do you will fail and the house will win in the long run.
But lets say you win 15000 like John Legend - then it will take at least one more year for the casino to get it all back.

LOL

[iggiv]

there is i think, must be on amazon.

[ego]

there is i think, must be on amazon.

Well i google at it looks like he is now selling "Playing to win" as PDF so i assume there is nothing new as i have that book.

Cheers

[iggiv]

one thing is for sure, there is no mechanical way to play roulette all the time and win. Bots must be taken with great caution. Long progressions are a sure way to disaster. Hoping that deviation "will even out" is wrong.

on the other hand if u play occasionally and use smart tactics u won't lose too much but there is some chance u may win as well.

[iggiv]

u r right, that's the same old book in electronic format. Nothing is new under the Moon.

Well i google at it looks like he is now selling "Playing to win" as PDF so i assume there is nothing new as i have that book.

Cheers