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Started by The General, May 13, 12:20 PM 2016

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Priyanka

Quote from: falkor2k15 on Jul 27, 12:42 PM 2016what do these "-- -- --" rows mean that occur every so often?
I believe they just denote dealer change from the Wiesbaden spins download. 

Falkor - All your research you are doing on cycles will do nothing but different segmentation of data and all of them will abide by the rules of probability and payouts evening out. Unless you bring in another stream of data count them towards some time given away. 
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falkor2k15

Quote from: praline on Jul 27, 06:39 AM 2016
113 spins
10 sessions
flat bet result   :twisted:   "+2"
Some nice ideas there, praline! Would be nice if you could devise something using 4 repeats of the individual quads as opposed to the cycle lengths. That way bets would be placed more frequently.
"Trotity trot, trotity trot, the noughts became overtly hot! Merily, merily, merily, merily, the 2s went gently down the stream..."¸¸.•*¨*•♫♪:

falkor2k15

Quote from: Priyanka on Jul 27, 12:51 PM 2016
I believe they just denote dealer change from the Wiesbaden spins download. 

Falkor - All your research you are doing on cycles will do nothing but different segmentation of data and all of them will abide by the rules of probability and payouts evening out. Unless you bring in another stream of data count them towards some time given away.
Priyanka, you suggesting we can only win with parallel games? What can you tell us about the nature of the 2nd stream that we need to bring in regarding your quads videos? For example, are the 2 streams both derived from the flow of quads alone - or must one be accompanied by a completely different stream that is derived from either the dozens or lines?
"Trotity trot, trotity trot, the noughts became overtly hot! Merily, merily, merily, merily, the 2s went gently down the stream..."¸¸.•*¨*•♫♪:

falkor2k15

Quote from: praline on Jul 27, 06:22 AM 2016
yes it is.

track number of repeat    for cycle lengts. when cycle lenght reach 4 repeats i bet for that lenght.

where there are two cycle lenghts to bet, we bet them in ascending order. 23 first 2 then 3, 34 first three than 4, 24 first 2 than 4.

i was thinking to track lenght 3 with lenght 4 like one lenght. we would have a = cl2    and    b=cl3 + cl4.    for A we bet definig dozen, for B we bet two opposite dozens.    will test this and post results soon

I ran some stats on when a cycle length reaches a count of 4 repeats, which cycle length will then go to 5?

X Cycle length = 4
Cycle length 1 then reaches 5 first (%)
Cycle length 2 then reaches 5 first (%)
Cycle length 3 then reaches 5 first (%)
Cycle length 4 then reaches 5 first (%)
Total


1   
799   58.62068966
384   28.17314747
176   12.91269259
4   0.293470286
1363   
   
2   
269   8.013106941
2742   81.68007149
343   10.21745606
3   0.089365505
3357   
   
3   
162   8.866995074
512   28.0240832
1151   62.99945265
2   0.109469075
1827   
   
4   
12   14.63414634
39   47.56097561
14   17.07317073
17   20.73170732
82   

There's some definite bias there - 81% for CL2!!  :xd: If CL2 was on 4 and the rest of the CLs were on 1 then I bet that bias would be even higher still...

When you got ratios that high why would you need a parallel game to go with it!?  :question:
"Trotity trot, trotity trot, the noughts became overtly hot! Merily, merily, merily, merily, the 2s went gently down the stream..."¸¸.•*¨*•♫♪:

RouletteGhost

Quote from: falkor2k15 on Jul 27, 07:19 PM 2016
I ran some stats on when a cycle length reaches a count of 4 repeats, which cycle length will then go to 5?

X Cycle length = 4
Cycle length 1 then reaches 5 first (%)
Cycle length 2 then reaches 5 first (%)
Cycle length 3 then reaches 5 first (%)
Cycle length 4 then reaches 5 first (%)
Total


1   
799   58.62068966
384   28.17314747
176   12.91269259
4   0.293470286
1363   
   
2   
269   8.013106941
2742   81.68007149
343   10.21745606
3   0.089365505
3357   
   
3   
162   8.866995074
512   28.0240832
1151   62.99945265
2   0.109469075
1827   
   
4   
12   14.63414634
39   47.56097561
14   17.07317073
17   20.73170732
82   

There's some definite bias there - 81% for CL2!!  :xd: If CL2 was on 4 and the rest of the CLs were on 1 then I bet that bias would be even higher still...

When you got ratios that high why would you need a parallel game to go with it!?  :question:

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falkor2k15

Below is a transcript of Priyanka's latest 2 vids: The Journey parts 1 and 2. I don't think we've any chance of understanding these at all though. Besides the opening bet of each cycle all other bets are totally alien. I spent more hours on cycles than anyone else, so if I ain't got a bloody clue then seldom others will have a bloody clue either...  :smile:



S/DDef byCycleNumberDozenCommentsAmount
3303
3171
312132
23122162End of Cycle: bet the other Dozens0.4
2151Bet Opposite of last 2 Dozens0.2
d121181End of Cycle: bet the other Dozens0.4
13333Bet Dozens 2,30.4
d3133293End of Cycle: bet the other Dozens0.4
31111Bet last Dozen0.2
312202No bet-
d23122162End of Cycle: bet the other Dozens0.4
2151Bet last Dozen0.2
213313Bet last Dozen0.2
s22132152End of Cycle: bet the other Dozens0.4
s222162Bet last Dozen0.5
23353Bet Dozens 1,30.7
d3233283End of Cycle: bet the other Dozens0.4
32212Bet last Dozen0.6
32161Bet Dozens 1,32
s33213293End of Cycle: bet the other Dozens0.4
3171Bet Dozen 30.6
312172Bet Dozens 2,32
s33123313Bet Dozen 30.2
3111Bet Dozen 30.2
s3313273End of Cycle: bet the other Dozens0.4
31111Bet Dozen 30.6
312212Bet Dozens 1,22
d23122222End of Cycle: bet the other Dozens0.4
2151Bet Dozen 20.2
d2212132FINISHED

S/DDef byCycleNumberDozenCommentsAmount
191
13323
113151
13323
s113111
13323
132162
s1132161
13363
d3133343
s333253End of Cycle: bet the other Dozens1
32172Bet Dozens 1,31
32131Bet Dozens 1,21
d1321131End of Cycle: bet the other Dozens1
s11191End of Cycle: bet the other Dozens1
12212Bet Dozens 1,31
d2122202End of Cycle: bet the other Dozens1
23253Bet Dozens 1,31
d3233343End of Cycle: bet the other Dozens1
31121Bet Dozens 2,31
312242Bet Dozens 1,31
s33123253End of Cycle: bet the other Dozens1
32162Bet Dozens 1,31
s3323253End of Cycle: bet the other Dozens1
3131Bet Dozens 1,21
d131171End of Cycle: bet the other Dozens1
12152Bet Dozen 30.5
123363Bet Dozens 2,31
d31233333No bet
s333263End of Cycle: bet the other Dozens1
32222Bet Dozens 1,31
32191Bet Dozens 2,31
d13211101End of Cycle: bet the other Dozens1
12162Bet Dozens 1,31
s112181End of Cycle: bet the other Dozens1
13323Bet Dozens 2,31
d3133253FINISHED
"Trotity trot, trotity trot, the noughts became overtly hot! Merily, merily, merily, merily, the 2s went gently down the stream..."¸¸.•*¨*•♫♪:

NextYear

Well, if you can't make anything of it, should we even try...?

falkor2k15

Tomorrow I am bringing in a parallel game... I've chosen dozens + lines; is that a good choice or should I choose a different combo?
"Trotity trot, trotity trot, the noughts became overtly hot! Merily, merily, merily, merily, the 2s went gently down the stream..."¸¸.•*¨*•♫♪:

praline

If you have some free time. I would ask you to try with quads and low/high (HH HL LH LL).
I don't have TheHolyGrail.

praline

In the first quads video Priyanka is definitly using vdw. Try to write down all cycle lenghts in a row (22314334233),  divide those like apples and pears and you will notice it. But those arent straight vdw bets. I will post my results when I come home.
I don't have TheHolyGrail.

Herby

Quote from: Priyanka on Jul 27, 12:51 PM 2016count them towards some time given away. 

Hi Priyanka,
because of my little understanding of the English language I'm not able to find any sense in these words, maybe you spend some more words to this sentence.
TNX
Herby

falkor2k15

Quote from: praline on Jul 28, 09:05 AM 2016
If you have some free time. I would ask you to try with quads and low/high (HH HL LH LL).
OK, I'll go for that then!  :thumbsup:
"Trotity trot, trotity trot, the noughts became overtly hot! Merily, merily, merily, merily, the 2s went gently down the stream..."¸¸.•*¨*•♫♪:

Turner

Quote from: Herby on Jul 28, 09:30 AM 2016
Hi Priyanka,
because of my little understanding of the English language I'm not able to find any sense in these words, maybe you spend some more words to this sentence.
TNX
Herby

Dont worry, I didnt get it and I am English  :o

falkor2k15

Quote from: praline on Jul 28, 09:05 AM 2016
If you have some free time. I would ask you to try with quads and low/high (HH HL LH LL).
Actually, I can't do like that because I never understood it. I can use High/Low cycles - only distance of 2 - but I don't know how to make quads out of those. It wasn't clear:

I have tried various things and have not been able to figure out a way to induce dependencies between parallel games. All thumbs down.
There is one last hope left though which am checking now. It goes like this. It is stiching together of bets. While playing quads I have realised that 1-9, 10-18, 19-27, 28-36 forms quads in terms of spins. But the other way to make quads is by combining results of two spins. Like combining Two ECs like Low(1-18) and high numbers(19-36). The combinations are LL, HH, LH and HL. Here I could potentially have two streams one as a stream of quads with teh above combinations and other as a stream of ECs made of L and H. Because they are formed of same elements they are dependent. I am sure there is some playability I can figure out between these two streams and cycles, so working on it.  #ParallelGames #Dependencies #ECs #StitchingBets #Quads #Cycles
link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=17014.225
"Trotity trot, trotity trot, the noughts became overtly hot! Merily, merily, merily, merily, the 2s went gently down the stream..."¸¸.•*¨*•♫♪:

falkor2k15

praline, you got an example of making Quads from HL?
"Trotity trot, trotity trot, the noughts became overtly hot! Merily, merily, merily, merily, the 2s went gently down the stream..."¸¸.•*¨*•♫♪:

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