just a question bugs my brain

[maestro]

hi all...just quick and might be silly question;;;say we have system and system passes 1000000 spins flat bet  right...so here is question ,,,how important are number of bets being placed for those 1000000 spins..and also if number of placed bets are not enough but accuracy of placed bets is good can we still be happy with that kind of a system..sort of whats better have right amount of bets placed or bets that are accurate enough but less...thank you

[TwoCatSam]

maestro

I look at the number of bets placed, not the total spins.  With the L V F by FlAtMaN, you bet every spin.  With Jl PATTERN BREAKER, you may bet once in fifty or more spins.  Which result is more reliable?

In the final analysis, do you win money?  If you do, makes no difference does it?

By the way, do you conduct?

Samster

[Nickmsi]

Hi Maestro . .

Perhaps you are thinking of something more reliable to test your systems without having to do 1,000,000 spins.

You might be interested in the Van Keelen Test which tests any system based on 1,000 Bets Placed.

Here's an example:                                           


Even-Money-Bets (Black/Red/Even/Odd/High/Low):
A system indicates a genuine superiority:
1. if after 1000 placed bets a gain of more than 100 units was obtained!
2. if after 8000 placed bets a gain of more than 60 units was obtained!
3. if after 100000 placed bets a result better than - 1000 was obtained

No progressions, only equal bets.

There are many sites with more information.

Cheers

Nick
 

[maestro]

i do not know Sam i think that the more chips(numbers) you put on table higher price you might pay..do not know

[maestro]

@Nick....thanks but these are sort even money bets spex...how about inside betting are there any sort of indicators so you can judge...thanks

[Nickmsi]

This is all I have on Van Keelen tests:

Even-Money-Bets (Black/Red/Even/Odd/High/Low):
A system indicates a genuine superiority:
1. if after 1000 placed bets a gain of  more than 100 units was obtained!
2. if after 8000 placed bets a gain of more than 60 units was obtained!
3. if after 100000 placed bets a result  better than - 1000 was obtained*

Twelve-Number-Bets (Dozens/Collumns):
A system indicates a  genuine superiority:
1. if after 1000 placed bets a gain of more than 50 units was obtained!
2. if after 8000 placed bets a gain of more than 50 units was obtained!
3. if after 100000 placed bets a result better than - 2000 was obtained*

Six-Number Bets (Lines):
A system indicates a  genuine superiority:
1. if after 1000 placed bets a gain of more than 100 units was obtained!
2. if after 8000 placed bets a gain of more than 200 units was obtained!
3. if after 100000 placed bets a result better than - 600 was obtained*


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[maestro]

thanks

[vundarosa]

This is all I have on Van Keelen tests:

Even-Money-Bets (Black/Red/Even/Odd/High/Low):
A system indicates a genuine superiority:
1. if after 1000 placed bets a gain of  more than 100 units was obtained!
2. if after 8000 placed bets a gain of more than 60 units was obtained!
3. if after 100000 placed bets a result  better than - 1000 was obtained*

Twelve-Number-Bets (Dozens/Collumns):
A system indicates a  genuine superiority:
1. if after 1000 placed bets a gain of more than 50 units was obtained!
2. if after 8000 placed bets a gain of more than 50 units was obtained!
3. if after 100000 placed bets a result better than - 2000 was obtained*

Six-Number Bets (Lines):
A system indicates a  genuine superiority:
1. if after 1000 placed bets a gain of more than 100 units was obtained!
2. if after 8000 placed bets a gain of more than 200 units was obtained!
3. if after 100000 placed bets a result better than - 600 was obtained*

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but they all lose after 100 000 placed bets......hummmm

vundarosa

[TwoCatSam]

Trying to turn a negative expectation into a positive expectation by running millions of spins is fruitless.  It will always be a negative expectation.

Seek to find a way to ride the positive tram, as Vic calls it.  And avoid the negative tram.

Easier said than done.

[maestro]

thats fine sam....but what could be negative tram for you might be positive for me and vice versa,,,,so realy you metod defines what tram you gettin on

[TwoCatSam]

OK

I once said, while using the VLS Lw Methodology I could tell which way the wind was blowing.  That is still one of the best ideas I've ever seen. 

Can I do it perfectly with never a loss?  No.  But with practice, the chart will started to tell me things.  That's all.

Sam