Even Chance Tour De Force II

[GLC]

Here is a little different bet progression that I base on Brett Morton's partial parlay.


It is an even chance bet. 


It's a positive progression within a negative progression.  The negative progression starts at 1 and goes 25.  The positive progression starts with the first bet and increases up to 5 bets within each level.


I will give you the chart and then explain it a little.


The left column is how much I lose/win if I lose the bet.
The middle column is how much I bet.
The right column is how much I win if I win the bet.




-1   1   +1
-1   2   +3
0   3   +6
+2   4   +10
+4   6   +16 (16x)
-------------------


-2   2   +2
-1   3   +5
+1   4   +9         
+3   6   +15
+6   9   +24 (5x)
--------------------


-3   3   +3
-1   4   +7
+1   6   +13
+4   9   +22
+9   13   +35 (4x)
--------------------


-4   4   +4
-2   6   +10
+1   9   +19
+6   13   +32
+13   19   +51 (4x)
--------------------


-5   5   +5
-2   7   +12
+2   10   +22
+7   15   +37
+15   22   +59 (2x)
--------------------


-6   6   +6
-3   9   +15
+2   13   +28
+9   19   +47
+19   28   +75 (2x)
--------------------


-7   7   +7
-3   10   +17
+2   15   +32
+10   22   +54
+21   33   +87 (2x)
--------------------


-8   8   +8
-4   12   +20
+2   18   +38
+11   27   +65
+25   40   +105 (2x)
--------------------


-9   9   +9
-4   13   +22
+3   19   +41
+13   28   +69
+27   42   +111 (1x)
--------------------


-10   10   +10
-5   15   +25
+3   22   +47
+14   33   +80
+31   49   +129 (2x)
--------------------


-11   11   +11
-5   16   +27
+3   24   +51
+15   36   +87
+33   54   +141 (1x)
--------------------


That's enough for you to get the idea.  You can calculate the remaining charts as you wish.  Each of the charts represents a 5 step partial parlay.  Let's look at the one starting with 7.


We bet 7 (middle column) and if we lose, we lose -7 (left column) if we win we win +7 (right column).  Our next bet is as close to 1.5 times our last bet as we can get.  If I can't increase by 50%, I always stay below 50%.  7 divided by 2 = 3.5, so I add 3 to 7 = 10 for our next bet.  If we lose at 10, we will be -3 because we previously won 7.  If we win at 10 units we will be +17 because we previously won at 7.  10 times 1.5 = 15 for our next bet.  If we lose this bet, we will be at +2 because we have previously won 17 units and now we are losing 15 for a net of 2.  If we win the 15 unit bet, we will be at +32 (7+10+15=32).  15 plus 7 = 22 for our next bet.  If we lose we will be at +10 because we have previously won 32 units - 22 = +10.  If we win our 22 unit bet we will be at +54 (7+10+15+22=54).  Next bet is 33.  If we lose we will be at +21 if we win we will be at +87.


If we win the 1st 3 bets in any stage, we can't lose at that stage.



Our progression is still based on winning 5 in a row bets.


Any time we win 5 bet in a row, we will be at a new high bank and can reset to the 1st 1 stage.


Also, note that to move to the next level, we must either lose on the 1st bet of that level or lose twice on the 2nd bet (except at the 1 level.  If we lose at the 1st or 2nd level of the 1 unit stage we must move up).  Once we are at the 2 unit starting bet level, if we make it to the 3rd bet and lose, we can just start over at the same level.  If we lose at the 4th bet, we can drop back 1 level.  If we lose on the 5th bet in a level we can drop back 3 levels.


The number in parenthesis after the last bet in each level; (2x) for example, represents the number of times you can lose the 1st bet or the 2nd bet twice before having to proceed to the next level of the progression.

GLC

[GLC]

The suggested progression is:


1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
2
2
2
2
2
3
3
3
3
4
4
4
4
5
5
6
6
7
7
8
8
9
10
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
18
20
20
22
24
25


That gives us 52 chances minimum to win 5 times in a row.


Considering that a loss on the 3rd bet lets us re-bet same level, a loss on the 4th bet lets us drop back 1 level and a loss on the 5th bet lets us drop back 3 levels, we have a huge opportunity to complete 5 in a row before lose at the 25th level.


LOL,


GLC

[Colbster]

That is 345 units for 52 chances, although I understand your caveat that you will be able to move back to lower levels fairly easily (1/16 odds of moving back 1 level, 1/32 odds of moving back 3).  I gave it a try and my brain spent more time looking at the progression than I did the felt, which is where I like to keep it focused.  I think I will stick with your previous progression, but love the concept.  Good luck on it!

[GLC]

I have changed the progression.


Here it is in what I think is it's purest form.


You will note that each time you win twice and lose on the 3rd partial parlay, you'll be at zero which means you can play that level again.


Each time you win 3 times and lose on the 4th bet, you'll be plus whatever number of units that level starts at which means you can drop back one level.  This gives you have 2 extra levels to play, the one you dropped back to and the one you just played.


Each time you win 4 times in a row and lose on the 5th bet, you'll be plus 3 times your starting bet for that level.  That means you can drop back 3 levels.  These levels may all be in the same group or they may move to a lower group. This means you have 4 extra levels to play while looking for 5 wins in a row.   Please read this intro a few times to make sure you understand it.


A = Amount you lose/win if you lose
B = The bet amount for that bet
C = The amount plus for this series if we win each bet


We start betting at 1 unit.  If we win all 5, we will win 19 units.  That means we can play and lose this 1-2-3-5-8 series 19 times before we have to go on the the next group.  The next group starts with a 2 unit bet.  It's the 2-3-5-8-12 bet series.  If we win all 5 bets in a row with this group we will win 30 units.  We lost 19 units from the 1st group which means we can lose 6 times at this level before we have to move on to the 3 unit starting group.


A.   B.   C.


-1   1   +1
-1   2   +3
0   3   +6
+1   5   +11
+3   8   +19
You can lose the above 19 times before moving on to the 2 group


-2   2   +2
-1   3   +5
0   5   +10
+2   8   +18
+6   12   +30
You can lose the above 6 times before moving on to the 3 group


-3   3   +3
-2   5   +8
0   8   +16
+3   13   +29
+9   20   +49
You can lose the above 7 times before moving to the 4 group


-4   4   +4
-2   6   +10
0   10   +20
+4   16   +36
+12   24   +60
You can lose the above 3 times before moving on


-5   5   +5
-3   8   +13
0   13   +26
+5   21   +47
+15   32   +79
You can lose the above 4 times before moving


-6   6   +6
-3   9   +15
0   15   +30
+6   24   +54
+18   36   +90
You can lose the above 2 times


-7   7   +7
-4   11   +18
0   18   +36
+7   29   +65
+21   44   +109
You can lose the above 2 times


-8   8   +8
-4   12   +20
0   20   +40
+8   32   +72
+24   48   120
You can lose the above 2 times


-9   9   +9
-5   14   +23
0   23   +46
+9   37   +80
+27   53   +133
You can lose the above 1 time


-10   10   +10
-5   15   +25
0   25   +50
+10   40   +90
+30   60   +150
You can lose the above 2 times


-11   11   +11
-6   17   +28
0   28   +56
+11   45   +101
+33   68   +179
You can lose 3 times


Note that you skip group 12


-13   13   +13
-7   20   +33
0   33   +66
+13   53   +119
+39   80   +199
You can lose 1 time


-14   14   +14
-7   21   +35
0   35   +70
+14   56   +126
+42   84   +210
You can lose 1 time


-15   15   +15
-8   23   +38
0   38   +76
+15   61   +137
+45   92   +229
You can lose 1 time


-16   16   +16
-8   24   +40
0   40   +80
+16   64   +144
+48   96   +240
You can lose 1 time


-17   17   +17
-9   26   +43
0   43   +86
-17   69   +155
-55   100   +255
You can lose 1 time


That's 56 attempts at winning 5 times in a row.


If you didn't win a bet, you would lose 263 units.


I don't see why you need to put a win target on this system.  It's either going to win in the long run or it isn't.


If you like hit-n-run, then go for it.  Pick you own win target.


Remember, if you play it per the above, anytime you start, you may lose 263 units.  I chose this number because I have a maximum bet of 100 units on my airball roulette game.


You can adjust the progression to suit yourself.


I suggest that you print our the progression so you can have a copy with you to refer to for bet sequences.


Early tests are proving this to be very effective.  I've tested it a few times on Blackjack and baccarat as well.  I think baccarat is the safest game for it.  Single zero with la partage works well also.  Unfortunately, all I have is 0/00.


Cheers,


GLC

[GLC]

Here's a summary of the progression line:


1-2-3-5-8
1-2-3-5-8
1 etc...
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
2-3-5-8-12
2-3-5-8-12
2  etc...
2
2
2
3-5-8-13-20
3-5-8-13-20
3  etc...
3
3
3
3
4-6-10-16-24
4  etc...
4
5-8-13-21-32
5  etc...
5
5
6-9-15-24-36
6
7-11-18-29-44
7
8-12-20-32-48
8
9-14-23-37-53
10-15-25-40-60
10
11-17-28-45-68
11
11
13-20-33-53-80
14-21-35-56-84
15-23-38-61-92
16-24-40-64-96
17-26-43-69-100


That's your bet line.


LOL,


George

[Wally Gator]

George,


Absolutely phenomenal job.  On your Ultimate topic (the 1,2,4,8,6,8,10, etc..) I'm up to 143 baccarat shoes without a single loss playing player only to 10 units.  I'm up 3 bankrolls so far.  I hit the 30 mark once and nothing else even close to that.  Bankroll requirements are hefty, but it's the difference between winning and losing.


I think a 4 step is best.  Occasionally we'll find a bac shoe without a 5 streak or chop.  Happened to me the other day.


Thanks for everything you're sharing.


Best, John

[GLC]

George,


Absolutely phenomenal job.  On your Ultimate topic (the 1,2,4,8,6,8,10, etc..) I'm up to 143 baccarat shoes without a single loss playing player only to 10 units.  I'm up 3 bankrolls so far.  I hit the 30 mark once and nothing else even close to that.  Bankroll requirements are hefty, but it's the difference between winning and losing.


I think a 4 step is best.  Occasionally we'll find a bac shoe without a 5 streak or chop.  Happened to me the other day.


Thanks for everything you're sharing.


Best, John

Good to hear you're doing so well.  Maybe I should look into playing baccarat.  Actually, I've been doing very well in my testing on both of these Even Chance tour de force progressions.  I think all of them are pretty solid.  Getting all the way to 30 shows for sure that it can lose.  It must have been a tough decision to go for the 4th win rather than back up after the 3rd win a lower level.


In my playing, if I have like 3 wins in a row and decide to back up rather than go for the 4th win, I have been playing virtual until a loss and a new win, then I start betting at the lower level.


In tour de force 1, where we're hunting 5 parlays in a row, if I win 4 in a row and decide that I'm too far along in the progression to risk a 5th parlay and drop back down the progression, since I've already won 4 in a row, I wait until a loss before I start betting again.  Just a personal preference.  As you know, none of this is set in stone.


Continued good luck John,


George

[Wally Gator]

Good to hear you're doing so well.  Maybe I should look into playing baccarat.  Actually, I've been doing very well in my testing on both of these Even Chance tour de force progressions.  I think all of them are pretty solid.  Getting all the way to 30 shows for sure that it can lose.  It must have been a tough decision to go for the 4th win rather than back up after the 3rd win a lower level.

No question it's a difficult decision.  In that particular case I was already up 2 bankrolls so my thoughts were to play the strategy exactly as planned since I would have been up regardless of the outcome.  And, it worked (best part).  Over the years I've had too many "I should have's ....." when not just simply pushing the chips out there.  So, I don't do that anymore.  If it should lose, I'll accept that.  It's part of playing for real money.  I take it very seriously, I've got 3 kids in college and tuition is a killer   It's nice to pass the casino's donation to the schools (heehee).


On EC's I prefer baccarat.  You're odds are simply better and many of the strategies on this forum perform exceptionally well.  I think the key is finding one that fits your personality, one that you can stick with and not deviate from and you can find great success.  All of them will fail at some point, but if you add your brain to the equation it can most times find success.  Occasional losses are just part of playing.  I find your ideas very thought provoking and moving them in and out of the many strategies has worked well.  Thank you.


Best, John

[GLC]

WG,


I think you should start your own blog for us. 


Share some of your thoughts, methods, rules.  You know, what you've learned over the years.


Anyone that's winning on a consistent basis has some really valuable information for every member here and every visitor who haven't figured out how to win.


Thanks for the encouragement to me that you are.  You're like the perfect member.  You take ideas and figure out how to apply them to your way of playing, but you understand that caution is always advisable because at any time the hammer can fall.


I always remember F_LAT_INO's example of winning for a long, long time and traveling the world over only to have the streak from hell almost wipe him out financially.  Of course, he was smart enough to only get wounded, not killed.


Continued good luck my friend,


George

[Wally Gator]

Hey George,


How about a progression that wins +1 in 3 steps for up to 70 spins.  So, let's assume that we will always hit a three in a row within 70 spins.  What would the progression be?  Maybe a 4 step as well.


You're the King of Progression, George......


Many thanks.

[GLC]

Hey George,


How about a progression that wins +1 in 3 steps for up to 70 spins.  So, let's assume that we will always hit a three in a row within 70 spins.  What would the progression be?  Maybe a 4 step as well.


You're the King of Progression, George......


Many thanks.

If lose     Bet size           If win
-1                  1                  +1
-2                  1 twice         +1
-3                  1 thrice         +1
-4                  1+ parlay      +1
-5                  1+ dbl parlay  +3
-6                 1 + dbl parlay  +2
-7                 1 + dbl parlay  +1
-9                 2                      +7  From here on every bet we parlay 2 times
-11              2                       +5
-13              2                        +3
-15              2                        +1
-18              3                        +6
-21              3                         +3
-25              4                         +7
-29              4                         +3
-34              5                         +6
-39              5                          +1
-45              6                          +3
-52              7                          +4
-60              8                          +4
-69              9                          +3
-79             10                          +1
-91             12                          +5
etc...

That's the 1st 23 of the 70 bets and we're already at -91 on a loss.

As you can see, it's going to get pretty deep in the hole by bet 70 and we're going to be betting very large bets.

You can finish the progression.

At some point we can go to 3 parlays 1=2=4=8=16 - 1 = +15  Just multiply 15 times whatever the unit size you start with.
Let's say we're betting 120 units with 3 parlays  120X15= 1800.  We get that by this formula:
120=240=480=960=1920-120=1800.

GLC

[Wally Gator]

Many thanks, my friend.  I knew the BR was going to be a killer, but will give it a go.  Just so you know, the method is playing in sequences of 3's (i.e. BBBRRRBBBRRR) regardless of what comes up, just play 3 of any EC and then switch to the other side.  Look for a three in a row.  So far I've played 136 bac shoes (about 9,520 spins) and it's not lost.  I've been playing 1,2,3 then 2,4,6 ... etc ..... Have gotten close to -1000, but never busted (at least so far).


Thanks King George ....

[GLC]

Many thanks, my friend.  I knew the BR was going to be a killer, but will give it a go.  Just so you know, the method is playing in sequences of 3's (i.e. BBBRRRBBBRRR) regardless of what comes up, just play 3 of any EC and then switch to the other side.  Look for a three in a row.  So far I've played 136 bac shoes (about 9,520 spins) and it's not lost.  I've been playing 1,2,3 then 2,4,6 ... etc ..... Have gotten close to -1000, but never busted (at least so far).


Thanks King George ....

I love that bet selection Wally.  Sometimes I play the same way, but I bet sets of 5.  If I just lost 4 or 5 in a row it means the color I'm betting against is hitting.  In that case, I don't switch.