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P.A :PREACHING about HG!

Started by P.A, Sep 03, 10:54 PM 2015

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helena

Quote from: ddarko on Sep 04, 09:10 PM 2015
AS do I helena, as do I......

In F.A.C.T. I think ALL 4 of them exist  ;)

O0

How many bets there are all depends on the definition of a bet.  His "bet" involves more than one spin.

P.A

Respected Moderator, please dont lock this thread, after this thread fade, I will post no more new topic, for good. ..I promise!
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Well Ladies&Gentlemen,
After more than 24hours,
I see that only a few, tell me to "Shut-up",

Thus I will proceed with my..err...preaching?!

I will preach as if the listeners are  NEWBIE group,
that just understand the basic of roulette,
and will save them , headache, and heartache, from  terrible testing for thousand hours.!

and those in EXPERT grade, [but still ... searching for a grail], may skip, and ,  wait for the expert grade, preaching.

I may bored u to sleep, as any preacher do, and if u cant understand , u may ask, but my answer will not on silver platter...

U need badly to understand the very BASIC, or u may MISSED, some VERY-simple but VERY-important STIPULATION.
That why REPETITIVE, to stressed an IMPORTANT issue!

And if u have some "AHA!" , or EUREKA!!!" , then just post here, so we could know what make u jump high,  after all these years of research!!!.

[U may need to always copy, lest this thread deleted, for some reason.]
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Lets Begin!

A HG, will have FOUR most important CRITERIA.
Below the criteria according to their importance!
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1]A BET SELECTION,

that, must "CONSISTENTLY & CONSTANTLY
produce WIN/LOSE RATIO,
that within math expectation."

[what is that animal, MATH-EXPECTATION???]

2]PROGRESSION.

When u have that kind of bet selection,

U build a mild progression AROUND the said bet-selection.

and win easily...

3]Horrible VARIANCE avoidance in PROGRESSION,

or management.
That avoid huge losses, when long streaky, with too little wins in-between... happen!

Understand this, and u may even win, without any progression!

4]STOP-LOSS.

AS we cant foresee future,
and when the MURPHY Law comes, a visiting, we need to CUT LOSS, but the cutloss, will be OFFSET, by another few winning profitable seasons.
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When U have UNDERSTAND VERY-VERY WELL!,
all FOUR criteria...

U can build your OWN hg! [I promised U..]

and soon casino will need to change rules..
[three-ZERO roulette, perhaps? hahahaa:]
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Those who already understand , will say nothing here.
Those who didnt want to understand, but tantrum thrower,
please dont post anything hurtful here.

Those newbie, or eager learner, or expert,
please post constructive criticism, or opinion, or questioning here.

I am a sporting person, will not get angry with anyone here.

Thanks.
wait for next post in few hours,

where I preach in detail, what the bet-selection about...
.

P.A


Those expert may skip this, as it repetitive and boring.
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Ladies and Gentlemen,

The Greatest Mistake and Misunderstanding,
of searching for ,...
and keep testing a bet selection for superior hit.

Many of u, had test "EVEN-CHANCE", EC ,bet selection.
of black/red, O/E,H/L...

At the few first TESTING,[with no progression] they show GREAT profits, of 5,10,20,even 30 units profits.

and u feel ELATED! Happy, and "Oh Boy! This a grail!"

and then after a few more testing, they show losses of -5,-10,-20,and even -30units!!!

and u start to fell depressed, frustrated, and angry...

How I know, because, I also used to be in your shoes...

Why the bet selection, produce HUGE profit, and then , show HUGE losses?

This is because the, or your bad selection, cant overcome the probability law and the house edge,

and will SWING! WIDELY!..[but at the end will rtm]

What is SWING?
The bet selection, will produce high profit, and then swing to huge losses..

SWINGING...!

and that is in accordance with the law of probability, after a long test, when u add up, will see the net losses, just around the house edge!

THERE WILL NEVER A BET SELECTION THAN SUPERIOR THAN THE "PROBABILITY, and HOUSE EDGE" COMBINED!

..NEVER!!!

Ok, if we erased the zero from the casino real bet record, after a long test, u will see that, the win/loss ratio will around 50% all the time, throw in the ZERO, and u have negative!

So dont waste your time testing and hoping for a BET selection, that will SUPERIOR than
the 'probability&Edge', COMBINED.

So , then what we need to test, or search, if there NEVER, a selection, that superior???

answer;"Look for a bet selection that consistently, and constantly hit STABLE, WIN/LOSE ratio, that hit within the math expectation, or in other words, LOSE just at the "PROBABILITY and EDGE", value, COMBINED!

[that quote alone worth millions, hehehe]

Still not understand?

Ok, here some math, which will bore, or confuse some, nevertheless, we cant escape the math,  if u, want to understand.


U may ask question later..
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The Euro Wheel has 37numbers.
One of the number is ZERO, or GREEN.
the other is 36, with 18..BLACK, red, ODD,even,HIGH,low.

What that ZERO doing here...to make u lose more money! hahahaaww!

So ,
One set of 37, has 1zero
two set of 37, [37x2]=74, has 2zero.

three set of 37,[37x3=111, has 3zero..

3zero/111=2.7027% house edge.

or just 2.7%

and now u understand, why we need to test 111spins,
instead of 100spins/set, as 111, more accurate!

Then U may ask

WHY the need of a bet selection that constantly and consistently hit STABLE, -2.7% ???? why? why? why?

answer,
because, there will no bet selection that hit, BETTER than -2.7% long term! There will never be! OR ELSE, all the casino, already closed shop 300years ago!!!

And most importantly,
All the BET SELECTION, which not constantly and consistently hit win/lose ratio will SWING WIDELY, that caused little profit, and HUGE LOSSES due to horrible PROGRESSION!!!!!!!!!!

and now u understand why casino still stand strong, and we still here? hahahaaww!
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We NEED a STABLE bet selection, and build mild progression, around it...that a hg...
we need to embrace the edge, instead of abhor it.

hmmm...wonder how many jump up, and eureka...???

sometime , only, and just,... a one liner change the the whole mindset!



[ok, continue later in next post..feel tired..old age catching up...]

opinion please?

atlantis

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Played only after VIRTUAL wins. If a loss occurred waited for a VIRTUAL win on that side of the EC before resuming at the trigger.
**Bet ONCE ONLY (win or lose await next trigger)


example:
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R
B
B - vwin B
R
B - trigger to bet B
B - won                                          +1
R
B - trigger to bet B
B - won                                          +2
R
R - vwin R
B - trigger to bet B
R - lost; reset B; trigger to bet R     +1
R - won                                         +2
B
R - trigger to bet R
B - lost ; reset R                            +1
B - vwin B
R
B - trigger to bet B
B - won                                         +2
B
B
B
B
R
B - trigger to bet B
B - won                                         +3

NOTE:
I use separate progression for each side of the EC. (currently using best of 5)

This also avoids bets on lot of choppy results:

R
B
R
B
R
B
R
B
R

no virtual wins - so no bets!


According to the general Law of Appearance of the even chances with regard to the SINGLES and SERIES as stated on the win-maxx site STATS section, In a block or sequence of 64 spins the average result for one EC is:

16 SINGLES and
16 SERIES (streaks) of 2 or more...

If you read about it it some more it seems quite mathematically elegant and beautiful!

Knowing this fact, the formula I posted above is based on betting for these streaks (on both sides - because we do not know the side with the majority of streaks...) After a virtual win (RR or BB or longer) and betting ONCE on the trigger (stopping betting after a win or loss).
Attempting to get streak of 2 (because ALL series must start with formation of 2 at least)
Using a mild progression like gr8player5 on both sides of EC.. Thus try to capitalise on the appearance of the streaks and keep losses to minimum. I showed how betting ONCE only after a Vwin+trigger can avoid the runs of SINGLES too. It's down to % PROBABILITY.
Remember P.A's proviso:  max 111bets or 30 win bets to conclude a session.


Over to you now, PA to reveal your ideas on this.

Cheers,
A.
Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

P.A

 



Hi Atlantis,
U understand the method.
Why post here?
Soon, casino will broke!
Please delete and keep them secret.
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I cant remember I say that,
"max 111bets or 30 win bets to conclude a session."
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[ max 111bets] is for testing for "stable bet selection".

[30 win bets to conclude a session]..that just a example,
how u need to face 'possible variance'....
Thanks.


denzie

So this is the HG? This will win on the long run ?
To the testing mobile. ...........
As spins roll off our predictions get better

atlantis

Quote from: P.A on Sep 05, 05:45 AM 2015

I cant remember I say that,
"max 111bets or 30 win bets to conclude a session."
----------------------

[ max 111bets] is for testing for "stable bet selection".

[30 win bets to conclude a session]..that just a example,
how u need to face 'possible variance'....
Thanks.


OK, thank you PA.
Sorry must have misunderstood about that. Since you're open to questions, is it 111 SPINS, then??
Or, just stop when won a few units target goal eg: +5...

Regards,
A.
Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

ddarko

Quote from: helena on Sep 05, 01:24 AM 2015
How many bets there are all depends on the definition of a bet.  His "bet" involves more than one spin.

How did you come to that conclusion pls ?

O0

atlantis

Quote from: denzie on Sep 05, 05:49 AM 2015
So this is the HG? This will win on the long run ?
To the testing mobile. ...........

:)

Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

atlantis

Quote from: P.A on Sep 05, 05:45 AM 2015

U understand the method.
Why post here?
Soon, casino will broke!
Please delete and keep them secret.


Really? Casino will close doors!? This made me laugh.
I don't think so somehow...

A.
Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

denzie

Not sure if P.A. gonna answer....
111 bets he used to find the right bet selection.
It was RayManZ who suggested 30bets.

I think you're doing it right Altlantis.
111 spins or more doesn't matter as you got your bet selection already.
I THINK you can just keep on playing it till enough in profit.

Denzie
As spins roll off our predictions get better

denzie

As your progression. ....i would stop at the 5 level.
We lost 75u on a bust. Or stop after level 4??????

So for a win point im not sure yet as im gonna play it soon. But 20-30 would sound nice though  :love:
As spins roll off our predictions get better

atlantis

Quote from: denzie on Sep 05, 06:11 AM 2015
Not sure if P.A. gonna answer....
111 bets he used to find the right bet selection.
It was RayManZ who suggested 30bets.

I think you're doing it right Altlantis.
111 spins or more doesn't matter as you got your bet selection already.
I THINK you can just keep on playing it till enough in profit.

Denzie

That was my thinking too!

A.
Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

denzie

The only thing left for us to do is...test it to set a proper win point.
Imagine if half of the br would be possible. .... well then you really did it Atlantis  8)

Let's go in ....
As spins roll off our predictions get better

denzie

+21 thx Atlantis and P.A.
Much appreciated  :thumbsup:
As spins roll off our predictions get better

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