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Basics - that no one wants to hear

Started by TurboGenius, Nov 21, 09:04 AM 2015

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Ralph was doing something like this in his posts?

nottophammer

Quote from: TurboGenius on Nov 28, 10:40 PM 2015
Well, I wouldn't suggest that specifically - but close.
You could have a 2-5 split bet and 5 shows up - you remove 2 and then 2 shows up 10 times in the next 100 spins and 5 doesn't.
So instead - try this out..

(bear with me, I might sound insane)
Play all 12 numbers (I'll use dozen 1 since I always sit next to the wheel and the first dozen is
the easiest to reach from there.) 1 unit each.
Each time you have a win, add 1 unit to it - leave the others alone.
Do this for 2-3 (3 is better but 2 can be more playable) cycles of 38 spins.
(37 spins if you're using the Euro wheel - for my explanation I'm using my 38 slot wheel)
So (I'll use 2) cycles are over - remove 1 unit from each number.
Continue on for the next cycle - adding to the winners, after 38 remove 1 from each.
What this does is keep your bets on any number (in the section that you're playing) that
is hitting at or above 1 standard deviation.
It also keeps the total being bet on the table pretty level at all times.
There's no "out of control" progression - if anything it's a positive progression.
Say a number you're playing shows 9 times - you have quite a nice bankroll from that
number alone.
If a number gets hot and then starts now showing - you'll be removing bets from it and hence
in time it won't be played anymore. If a number stays hot and increases - you will have won
every single time it showed up since you're playing it from the start.
Is this perfect ? HELL no - but it's a start for your testing if you're interested in this.
Does it always win ?
Hmm.... I have yet to test it and not been in profit along the way.
I'll knock one out on RNG in RX and post the chart "whatever happens".
Hope it's a better 'hint' and you can build on it as I have.
Cheers
Is this the start of a sales pitch
How do you win at roulette, simple, make the right decision

TurboGenius

Quote from: nottophammer on Nov 29, 06:20 AM 2015
Is this the start of a sales pitch

You obviously don't know who I am.
I'll take that as some kind of ignorant insult.
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Quote from: TurboGenius on Nov 28, 10:40 PM 2015
Well, I wouldn't suggest that specifically - but close.
You could have a 2-5 split bet and 5 shows up - you remove 2 and then 2 shows up 10 times in the next 100 spins and 5 doesn't.
So instead - try this out..

(bear with me, I might sound insane)
Play all 12 numbers (I'll use dozen 1 since I always sit next to the wheel and the first dozen is
the easiest to reach from there.) 1 unit each.
Each time you have a win, add 1 unit to it - leave the others alone.
Do this for 2-3 (3 is better but 2 can be more playable) cycles of 38 spins.
(37 spins if you're using the Euro wheel - for my explanation I'm using my 38 slot wheel)
So (I'll use 2) cycles are over - remove 1 unit from each number.
Continue on for the next cycle - adding to the winners, after 38 remove 1 from each.
What this does is keep your bets on any number (in the section that you're playing) that
is hitting at or above 1 standard deviation.
It also keeps the total being bet on the table pretty level at all times.
There's no "out of control" progression - if anything it's a positive progression.
Say a number you're playing shows 9 times - you have quite a nice bankroll from that
number alone.
If a number gets hot and then starts now showing - you'll be removing bets from it and hence
in time it won't be played anymore. If a number stays hot and increases - you will have won
every single time it showed up since you're playing it from the start.
Is this perfect ? HELL no - but it's a start for your testing if you're interested in this.
Does it always win ?
Hmm.... I have yet to test it and not been in profit along the way.
I'll knock one out on RNG in RX and post the chart "whatever happens".
Hope it's a better 'hint' and you can build on it as I have.
Cheers

Really interesting post something I have done a bit of testing on and it works "most" of the time, until it doesn't.

Quote from: nottophammer on Nov 29, 06:20 AM 2015
Is this the start of a sales pitch

Not helpful nottophammer, TurboGenius has been around for as long as I can remember and others here will testify to his integrety.

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TurboGenius is right 3 cycles of 37/38 are better than 2.

I just ran a quick test on an RNG bitcoin casino that is great for testing and over 3 cycles of 37 spins I came out in front by 113 units.  I think the lowest my BR went to was 864 units near the end of the second cycle.

nottophammer

Yes i know he's been around for eternity,just seemed like a sales pitch,thats all. I have posted i like Turbos bet against the previous 3.
Just tested against 62 spins from Celtic casino and -434 units, on the second doz, but if you bail out at some point could  have made 92 units
How do you win at roulette, simple, make the right decision

MrJ

Turbo sells nothing, never has.

Ken
Watch us big doggs, the MEN, play at a REAL casino, on a REAL table. All we ask is that you stay out of our way. The rest? Bots, airball, RNG...that's more for the Kitty Kat Klub. Its the big doggs and the kittens!! Winning is not an event, it's a process and it takes YEARS and YEARS to master > link:://:.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/2014127/rs_560x415-140227131132-1024.bulldog-kittens3.jpg... To be great, you have to be willing to be mocked, hated and misunderstood.

Turner

Thanks for the reply Turbo I will study what you said. I know the col. Idea I posted isnt good...I meant it to be an example of betting without using past spins. Should of made it clearer.

Notto....Turbo is not selling. He has always been generous with advice
Its daft to even consider it

falkor2k15

I won first 2 times with Turbo's method - about 75-50 units. Anyone planning on testing his principles for consistency?
"Trotity trot, trotity trot, the noughts became overtly hot! Merily, merily, merily, merily, the 2s went gently down the stream..."¸¸.•*¨*•♫♪:

paulee

I won first time and lost second time, both times with 3 cyles of 38 spins as suggested.

falkor2k15

I just ran a simulation of Turbo's method over 2,000 spins - failed big time.
"Trotity trot, trotity trot, the noughts became overtly hot! Merily, merily, merily, merily, the 2s went gently down the stream..."¸¸.•*¨*•♫♪:

RouletteGhost

The standup guys never sell

Only the slithering little snakes claim to have the grail and sell it

the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

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TurboGenius

Quote from: falkor2k15 on Dec 01, 08:35 PM 2015
I just ran a simulation of Turbo's method over 2,000 spins - failed big time.

Explain ?
Show results.
I haven't had it 'fail' yet in my own testing - I'm curious what you consider 'failure'.
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RouletteGhost

Quote from: TurboGenius on Dec 01, 08:47 PM 2015
Explain ?
Show results.
I haven't had it 'fail' yet in my own testing - I'm curious what you consider 'failure'.

Be careful turbo. Most of the time people try to sabotage a method or strategy stating its a failure. Dont get dragged into it.

I dont trust his statement. I call BS.
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

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TurboGenius

Quote from: falkor2k15 on Nov 30, 09:52 AM 2015
Anyone planning on testing his principles for consistency?

I thought this was a little humorous -
In the title I say "Basics". So lets look at roulette basics.
You ONLY win - when you are betting on numbers that show above expectation.
It's that simple.
Even a number that shows once per 38 spins (american wheel) each cycle of spins - won't win
long term because the payout doesn't equal the odds of winning (house edge).
Therefore, you can only win at this game by playing numbers and having those numbers
show above 1 std deviation. There's no other way to win using a system other than to
pick numbers that show and avoid numbers that don't.
It has to win flat betting - a progression just magnifies a loss in a bad system.
So - what exactly is there to test ?
It's like saying 2 plus 2 is 4 - and someone says "Does anyone think this is true ?"
I would hope everyone knows the basics of roulette - and knows the basics of math.
As I said to Turner "Hope it's a better 'hint' and you can build on it as I have."
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