*****FIVE*****

[Johnlegend]

Okay, since there are still too many people who don't know if they are coming or going with this method. I have locked the original thread and we shall start again. I am going to break it down, and only post the next rule once everyone understands the current rule.

RULE 1

We record spins until we get a GAME TRIGGER of two 4 GAPS. They can be back to back, or separated by gaps less than 4. Examples below. A 4 Gap is a dozen that hits then sleeps for 3 spins and hits again.

12--24--35--17--01-----This is a 4 GAP of DOZEN 1

-----DOZEN 1
-----04
-----04-----GAME TRIGGER

-----DOZEN 1
-----04
-----02
-----03
-----04-----GAME TRIGGER

The game trigger cannot be separated by gaps more than 4. Example below

-----DOZEN 1
-----04
-----06
-----12
-----04-----NOT A GAME TRIGGER

Okay is this clear with everyone?

[Johnlegend]

Okay, now for the hard part. The part of the method that threw most was understanding the BET TRIGGER. So I will be as detailed as I can about it.

RULE 2,

Once you have your GAME TRIGGER, you now look to see if there are any single 4 GAPS on the other two dozens. The reason being a BET TRIGGER can form before or in the middle of a GAME TRIGGER. And of course after a GAME TRIGGER.
If you already have a BET TRIGGER formed. It is a Contender for a game but not a guarantee for your first bet. The reason is it may produce several short gaps while another 4 GAP forms on another dozen and becomes your actual bet. Here is an example of what can happen.

-----D1-----D2-----D3
-----04------08-----10
-----04------06-----05-----GAME TRIGGER DOZEN 1
-----06------05-----04-----FIRST BET TRIGGER DOZEN 3 BUT NO BET
-----06------04-----02-----SECOND BET TRIGGER DOZEN 2 AND OUR FIRST BET
-----05------04??--.02-----OUR FIRST BET THAT THIS BECOMES A 5 GAP OR MORE

The reason the first BET TRIGGER didn't qualify is because The next two gaps stopped at two. In the meantime DOZEN 2 produced a 4 GAP and followed with another POTENTIAL 4 GAP. The first 4 GAP that does this becomes your first bet. It can happen on ANY DOZEN at anytime. And you bet that it goes on to become a 5 GAP or more by covering the other two dozens.

Is this clear with everyone??

[nrus007]

I've been trying to understand this system for a while, and while I admit I still don't, I have been playing a slight variation by waiting for a dozen to hit, sleep three times and then hit again. I've been then betting against it using the 1-3-9-27 progression and I've been having some success. Is there any reason why this method wouldn't work?

[superman]

JL, Maybe this will help, I have just rerun the counter tool which resets to zero when a dozen hits then starts counting again when its not hitting, if you could highlight trigger using the colours available and also higlight the betting so we can get a visible view of a session that would probably help a lot of people, the numbers show the gaps. If not then just delete this post.

DA 1|3|0|4|10|2|14|1|0|2|0|2|3|9|1|3|0|6|0|0|0|12|2|7|1|4|1|0|3|0|2|2|0|2|0|0|1|3|8|2|2|4|5|3|0|0|0|0|2|5|2|2|0|0|0|2|1|2
DB 0|1|10|0|2|0|2|1|0|3|0|0|0|2|1|0|0|0|1|6|0|1|1|1|4|2|1|6|2|0|0|5|0|5|1|3|2|0|0|0|1|1|1|1|5|0|3|0|1|0|3|3|1|3|0|0|0|2|2|3|1|0|1|1|0|2|2|9|0|0|0|3|10|1
DC 3|0|2|0|0|0|1|2|0|2|0|5|0|4|0|1|8|0|6|3|0|0|0|1|0|4|0|0|3|0|7|2|0|0|0|0|1|1|1|2|4|5|1|1|4|9|7|0|5|0|1|2|1|4|4|0|2|1|5|0|5|1|2|0|4|0|4

[Johnlegend]

JL, Maybe this will help, I have just rerun the counter tool which resets to zero when a dozen hits then starts counting again when its not hitting, if you could highlight trigger using the colours available and also higlight the betting so we can get a visible view of a session that would probably help a lot of people, the numbers show the gaps. If not then just delete this post.

DA 1|3|0|4|10|2|14|1|0|2|0|2|3|9|1|3|0|6|0|0|0|12|2|7|1|4|1|0|3|0|2|2|0|2|0|0|1|3|8|2|2|4|5|3|0|0|0|0|2|5|2|2|0|0|0|2|1|2
DB 0|1|10|0|2|0|2|1|0|3|0|0|0|2|1|0|0|0|1|6|0|1|1|1|4|2|1|6|2|0|0|5|0|5|1|3|2|0|0|0|1|1|1|1|5|0|3|0|1|0|3|3|1|3|0|0|0|2|2|3|1|0|1|1|0|2|2|9|0|0|0|3|10|1
DC 3|0|2|0|0|0|1|2|0|2|0|5|0|4|0|1|8|0|6|3|0|0|0|1|0|4|0|0|3|0|7|2|0|0|0|0|1|1|1|2|4|5|1|1|4|9|7|0|5|0|1|2|1|4|4|0|2|1|5|0|5|1|2|0|4|0|4

Looks lile a plan Superman. If most can read it we will go with it.

[Johnlegend]

Okay now that most have understood the first two rules we continue.

RULE 3,

Once you have established your GAME TRIGGER and BET TRIGGER and had your first bet. You respond to the result. If you won, you can either retrack for a FRESH GAME TRIGGER. And BET TRIGGER, or quit the session.

If you lost the first bet, you identify the very next BET TRIGGER that qualifies for a bet. And go to STEP 2 of the 4 STEP progression 1,3,9,27 x 2= 80 POINTS RISK.

NOW IMPORTANT, There are 3 main ways your next BET TRIGGER AND BET could materialize.

A, It could form on the same DOZEN that gave you your GAME TRIGGER and FIRST BET TRIGGER and bet. OR.

B, It could be a BET TRIGGER that had previously formed, but hadnt QUALIFIED for the FIRST BET. OR

C, It Could be a fresh BET TRIGGER on one of the other two dozens. Below are examples of these 3 possibilities.

-----DOZEN 2
-----04
-----02
-----04-----GAME TRIGGER
-----07
-----04-----BET TRIGGER 1
-----04-----BET 1 LOST
-----05
-----09
-----04-----BET TRIGGER 2
-----06-----BET 2 WON


-----D1-----D2-----D3
-----07------04-----05-----BET TRIGGER 1 DOZEN 2---AND 2ND BET
-----04------03-----06-----GAME TRIGGER DOZEN 1
-----04------02-----04-----BET TRIGGER 2, DOZEN 3---AND 1ST BET
-----09------01-----04-----BET 1 LOST AS IT BECAME ANOTHER DOUBLE 4 GAP
-----03------02-----05
-----06------06-----06-----BET 2 WON AS IT WENT BEYOND A 4 GAP


-----D1-----D2-----D3
-----06------04-----07-----GAME TRIGGER DOZEN 2
-----06------04-----04-----BET TRIGGER 1 AND 1ST BET DOZEN 3
-----11------08-----03
-----06------05-----02
-----05------06-----04-----BET 1 LOST AS IT BECAME ANOTHER DOUBLE 4 GAP
-----04------03-----07-----BET TRIGGER 2 AND 2ND BET DOZEN 1
-----06------03-----05-----BET 2 WON AS IT WENT BEYOND A 4 GAP.

Does everyone understand RULE 3???

[Turner]

I dont want to be a party pooper, but I didnt get rule 2. I said I cant follow the matrix. Some one else said the same thing.
Ill go away if you want.

[Johnlegend]

I don't want to be a party pooper, but I didn't get rule 2. I said I can't follow the matrix. Some one else said the same thing.
Ill go away if you want.

Turner, I will stay on it till you get it. Contrary to someones suggestion that I don't want members to really know how this works. Its actually the exact opposite.

OKAY, just finished a session at BV, and here are the results of a game I played FIRST in a string of numbers. THEN in my standard diagram. Study the two Turner. And hopefully RULE 2 will click with you.

35*--13--18--20--35*--00--22--10+--32*--22--17--01+--29--25--27--27--11+--WIN BET 1--DOZEN 1.

The numbers above with the asterix next to them represent the GAME TRIGGER. Which in this instance was DOZEN 3. The numbers with the plus next to them represent the BET TRIGGER and Winning bet/dozen. Which in this instance was DOZEN 1. Now below in DIAGRAM FORM.

-----D1-----D2-----D3
-----08------02-----04-----GAME TRIGGER DOZEN 3
-----04------01-----04-----BET TRIGGER DOZEN 1
-----05------01-----04-----BET 1 DOZEN 1 WON AS IT WENT BEYOND A 4 GAP.

[Johnlegend]

*THE FINAL RULE* This rule concludes instruction on how to play FIVE. And how to play back to back games. From here on I suggest you ask all your questions. And practice the method until you fully grasp it.

RULE 4,

Once you have played and won a game of FIVE. You can decide whether to end the session or PLAY ON. If you decide to play on. YOU MUST. Continue tracking spins until you are presented with a NEW/FRESH GAME TRIGGER. You then play your game as outlined in the rules. I do not recommend you play more than *4* back to back games in any one session. Adhering to this has payed off very well. Example below...


-----D1-----D2-----D3
-----04------05-----05-----GAME TRIGGER 1, DOZEN 1
-----04------04-----03-----BET TRIGGER DOZEN 2
-----08------02-----07
-----02------09-----03-----BET 1 DOZEN 2 WON AS IT WENT BEYOND A 4 GAP
-----04------06-----06-----GAME TRIGGER 2 DOZEN 1
-----02------01-----05
-----04------04-----03-----BET TRIGGER 1 DOZEN 2
-----11------04-----03-----BET  1 LOST AS IT BECAME A DOUBLE 4 GAP
-----03------06-----04-----BET TRIGGER 2 DOZEN 3
-----05------06-----11-----BET 2 WON AS IT WENT BEYOND A 4 GAP

That's all there is to the method. Simple and complex at the same time. But not as hard to understand as some think if you put in the effort. That is an example of two back to back games. And I recommend you play two at a time. Because sometimes random can take awhile to deliver 4 GAPS. But when it starts. It usually hits quite a few of them. So its wise to make the most of this.

[Johnlegend]

Ouch, there's a lot of information here being deleted here!  I went to some extent to answer Turner for the sake of all, editing and re-editing for clarity.  I was even told it was a great post.   I went to make one more edit and it was gone! 

The diagram i posted (Kevin's example), along with the question and answer could have stayed too. 

JL, please weight the benefits of a clean and short thread with one that answers all the questions and gets the point across.  There's a difference between contributions and agitation for the sake of making trouble. 

Delete this, but not those.

Still my appologies. I wanted to keep the RULES close together. Ask all the questions you want now. The RULES are complete.

[Turner]

Ill be honest,

There is no way on this earth i would sit doing all this with a massive chance of making a mistake, for 40 or so spins to win 1 U.
JL....thanks for trying to explain it to me the second time (I appreciate it).
But it just looks like a foreign language to me......I am never gonna get it.

Also......"never gonna get it" is being caught up very quickly by "I dont think I want to get it"

Ill pull out of this one.

Good luck

[Still]

Still my appologies. I wanted to keep the RULES close together. Ask all the questions you want now. The RULES are complete.

One way to keep the rules together is, whenever you post a rule, first link to all the other rules, pointing to where to find all the preceding rules.   That keeps all the rules together. Another  way is to do the same, only on the last post, with all the rules, lock the thread.  I was unaware every post inbetween the rules would be deleted or i would not have posted.  in my opinion, a lot of info has been lost, and now will have to spend double time asking and answering questions that i thought were being handled along the way.  The format was to present a rule and make sure it is understood before moving on.  Then Robeenhut said he wanted all the rules now so then the method of presentment changed without notice.  No problem, its just that i intended to contribute when i posted, and feel my efforts were devalued/wasted. 

[Johnlegend]

One way to keep the rules together is, whenever you post a rule, first link to all the other rules, pointing to where to find all the preceding rules.   That keeps all the rules together.  I was unaware every post inbetween the rules would be deleted or i would not have posted.  in my opinion, a lot of info has been lost, and now will have to spend double time asking and answering questions that i thought were being handled along the way.  The format was to present a rule and make sure it is understood before moving on.  Then Robeenhut said he wanted all the rules now so then the method of presentment changed without notice.  No problem, its just that i intended to contribute when i posted, and feel my efforts were devalued/wasted.

Still again Sorry. I have taken onboard all you posted. Kevins tracking methods is the most straight forward. And I recommend it to all. Using the ABC format. Supermans looks good too. But I think we need one common format.

[Johnlegend]

Ill be honest,

There is no way on this earth i would sit doing all this with a massive chance of making a mistake, for 40 or so spins to win 1 U.
JL....thanks for trying to explain it to me the second time (I appreciate it).
But it just looks like a foreign language to me......I am never gonna get it.

Also......"never gonna get it" is being caught up very quickly by "I don't think I want to get it"

Ill pull out of this one.

Good luck

Turner I respect your view. No method is even going to pull in 20% of the people who view it. That's human nature. Me personally I don't think in terms of spins and unit size. I think in terms of WINNING POTENTIAL. I have going on for 1100 wins in a row. Anyone who could show me a method that risks a relatively small progression  to win over 1000 times, will have my undivided attention. I know FIVE is a winner. Its up to each individual to decide if they want to add this to their box of tricks. Kevin certainly has. And has enthused to me over how much he likes it.

He gets it. And will surely prospur from it. Its not ideal for live wheels. Its really made for an RNG like BV. And you will get a decent turnover on an RNG. I get games as short as 17 spins to 88 which is my longest to date. But the bottom line is how long can this thing win for?. I don't know. But I'm enjoying finding out.

[Still]

Still again Sorry. I have taken onboard all you posted. Kevins tracking methods is the most straight forward. And I recommend it to all. Using the ABC format. Supermans looks good too. But I think we need one common format.

This isn't flying.  Kevin's method is nowhere to be seen in this thread.  How is it recommended?

Maybe now Robeenhut will come and assist explaining the method to any who still don't understand.  I won't.