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[Turner]

i can see a big problem here. People are taken by "tunnel vision" syndrome here. they think that their knowledge covers all the subject they are talking about. No doubts. Now when someone comes and argues with them, they start blaming him for lying and so on.

Now about lying. Lying does not come by itself. Person lying should have some motives to do so.
So far nobody could catch JL on pure lying. Yes, he could make mistakes as anybody else, but
sorry, there was no lying involved. He can't answer some questions. What can you answer if u already did your best to answer, then someone demands more answers, and if there is no more answer, then "he does not want to answer, because he is a liar" label is stuck onto him.

What can you do in this situation? How to answer? I saw John answering, but then it is just goin on and on and on....

I understand why he wants to leave. I don't feel great about all this, but i understand. I think it would happen sooner or later.

i don't wanna blame anyone here. I blame "tunnel vision" syndrome

Fair comment Iggiv..and people do suffer from tunnel vision. However, I know ...and thats a real KNOW that people cant walk on water, some people believe a man can...and did. There is no changing either view. neither wil ever ever give in and change view.

I dont believe thepilot story. I think its all part of a big farce. Thats my view. I wont try and change other who believe...and i wont change my view.
It just a gut feeling of years of experience when a situation doesnt add up. i formulated the opinion in seconds.

[iggiv]

that's OK not to believe. Everyone may or may not. But roulette is tricky stuff. It is more than just a math. What the pilot or JL do, some well known people do as well. Hard to say they are liars.
And people using their methods do win. But not too many do.

[ddarko]

JL not answering ppls questions is one thing that would peeve ppl 

Another thing is his 3 year plan, anybody who takes more joy in beating the game than winning money is going to get flagged by ppl in the know !!!!

[Robeenhuut]

Rob, he answered your question, u just did not want to get the answer. What to do if someone would not listen?

There is a difference of opinions here, that's it. No more than that. It is not "70 bets in a row". It is 70 bets played from time to time. For u it is the same. But sorry, You can't say that John is lying.
If he is lying then You can blame for the same lies John Patrick, Lee Tutor, Brett Morton. Those are people well known in gambling world, and they do just what John L. does. They just use their methods which are well known unlike JL' methods. But they play the same way he does. Would they be surprised with JL results? no way, because their results are similar overall.

Tell them they are liers.

Even wizard of Ods, math genious,  did not call Brett Morton a lier, when they met.
And i think he knows math way better than u.

There is no point to argue. U just push your agenda  with no goal to find the truth.

Sorry Iggiv if you dont get the odds of winning 70 bets in a row AT ANY TIME. So lets just ask Wizard of Odds if my math is correct. He is apparently the authority for you. And your other  roulette gurus play in a different way but they dont publish stats. If they did and they looked  fake or impossible for me i would question them as well. I dont have any agenda on this forum.

[TwoCatSam]

"We're off to see the Wizard.  The wonderful Wizard of Odds."

A fine idea, Matt.  Maybe he can settle the question once and for all.

Sam

[kevint3]

The Wizard of Odds is a French Pilot.

[Robeenhuut]

The Wizard of Odds is a French Pilot.

We have few Wizards of Defying the Odds here