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Title: Canon Method
Post by: RouletteGhost on January 10, 2017, 01:45:42 AM
I must say

this method works well from testing

9 numbers flat bet

not bad

You will be playing 9 straight up numbers every spin of the wheel.
One chip on each number.
You will play a certain 9 numbers until you get a win and then you move onto another group of 9 numbers.
If you don’t get a win, you will play until you have 5 straight losses and then you will move onto another group of 9 numbers.
When you move on to the next group of 9 numbers you will play them in exactly the same way.
Get a win – Move on.
Don’t get a win in 5 spins – Move on.

Single zero roulette strategy (European)
You will play the 9 numbers in the following sequence.
1 2 3 20 21 25 26 33 35
4 5 6 10 19 21 24 27 34
7 8 9 22 23 28 29 30 31
5 10 11 12 23 28 30 35 36
13 14 15 19 20 27 31 32 36
16 17 18 22 24 25 29 33 34
0 1 2 4 14 15 19 20 21
5 8 9 10 16 18 22 23 24
0 2 3 6 13 17 25 26 27
0 7 8 11 12 18 28 29 30
0 1 9 14 16 26 31 32 33
3 6 11 12 13 17 34 35 36

Double zero roulette strategy (American)
You will play the nine numbers in the following sequence.
0 00 1 2 3 13 14 15 24
4 5 6 16 17 18 21 22 23
7 8 9 11 12 19 20 26 28
7 8 10 11 12 25 27 29 30
1 2 3 13 14 15 34 35 36
4 5 6 16 17 18 31 32 33
6 7 8 19 20 21 31 32 33
3 4 5 22 23 24 34 35 36
0 00 9 10 25 26 27 29 30
0 9 11 12 25 26 28 29 30
16 17 18 19 20 21 31 32 33
13 14 15 22 23 24 34 35 36

Title: Re: Canon Method
Post by: RouletteGhost on January 10, 2017, 01:48:01 AM
in my opinion this needs testing big time

we may get 10 losses in a row but then BOOM the wins and moving on to the next line roll in
Title: Re: Canon Method
Post by: RouletteGhost on January 10, 2017, 01:51:58 AM
oops sorry

ive posted it before

it had some good results for some members

worth another look

http://www.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=16396.0
Title: Re: Canon Method
Post by: TurboGenius on January 10, 2017, 12:18:02 PM
I would suggest moving when you reach your limit without a win -
but NOT moving when you do get a win.

Hot numbers stay hot - cold numbers stay cold.
(Turbo Newton's 3rd law of random)    :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Canon Method
Post by: nottophammer on January 10, 2017, 12:38:48 PM
Hot numbers stay hot -
So how many spins are you going to bet the hot one, what if you have 4 hot ones and have gone 10 spins with out them hitting are they now cold? Turbo Newton :question:
Title: Re: Canon Method
Post by: buffalowizard on January 10, 2017, 04:41:35 PM
Hot Numbers stay hot (until they go cold) ((which no one ever knows when will happen)) (((except if you are Marty mcfly)))

- Buffalo Einsteins grand theory of roulettivity
Title: Re: Canon Method
Post by: Priyanka on January 10, 2017, 06:26:01 PM
Hot Numbers stay hot (until they go cold) ((which no one ever knows when will happen)) (((except if you are Marty mcfly)))

- Buffalo Einsteins grand theory of roulettivity
Is there somewhere I can read the defintion of hot and cold numbers?
Title: Re: Canon Method
Post by: nottophammer on January 10, 2017, 06:34:57 PM
Yeah go to betfred,paddypower,W.Hill play on the Roulette game where minimum chip is 25p, you'll see hot and cold #'s from last 500 spins plus zero last appeared 500 spins.

Personally it's a load of bollocks, just there to entice the plasterers or as Wiggy calls them woodpeckers :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Canon Method
Post by: Priyanka on January 10, 2017, 07:02:41 PM
So if hot numbers stay hot then I sit and bet for next 500 spins on those hot numbers am guessing I will be rich soon. Nice to know.
Title: Re: Canon Method
Post by: nottophammer on January 10, 2017, 08:08:03 PM
So if hot numbers stay hot then I sit and bet for next 500 spins on those hot numbers am guessing I will be rich soon. Nice to know.
love it sarcasm, for sarcasm
Title: Re: Canon Method
Post by: TurboGenius on January 10, 2017, 10:27:07 PM
So if hot numbers stay hot then I sit and bet for next 500 spins on those hot numbers am guessing I will be rich soon. Nice to know.

Past spins aren't relevant.
You can look at the list of past hot numbers and that's not going to tell you the future spins being hot or not.

Does NO ONE pay attention to a damn thing that I say ? No.

My suggestion was based on the fact that when you begin betting (not using past spins...) if you don't get a hit then you are better off moving your bet.
A number that hasn't shown in the expected number of spins is potentially a long term sleeper and should be avoided.
Therefore the opposite is true - a number that is appearing above expected will end up being one of the long term potentially hot numbers that WILL happen. (due to random).
Why do I bother to explain this over and over again.

Oh just assume this situation.
#0 is going to show 10 times in the next 150 spins.
#3 is not going to show at all for the next 150 spins.
(combined they show 10 times over 150 spins - right about on target with "normal" expectation)

Who would suggest that you continue to bet on #3 for those spins while losing every spin ?
Who would say NOT to bet on #0 and benefiting from every single time it appeared ?
You only win playing this game by betting on numbers that show,  you lose by betting on numbers that don't show. Basics anyone ?

Or just ignore what I posted - keep doing what you're doing. Shrugs.
Title: Re: Canon Method
Post by: denzie on January 10, 2017, 10:41:08 PM
Past spins aren't relevant.

Does NO ONE pay attention to a damn thing that I say ? No. I sure do

Why do I bother to explain this over and over again. you don't need to TG. Let them use GUT or TROT or chains or...

Personally I hope you stop posting TG. I've got my reasons for that. Come back in 20 years please. Let me make some money first.  >:D

Title: Re: Canon Method
Post by: Priyanka on January 10, 2017, 10:42:23 PM
a number that is appearing above expected will end up being one of the long term potentially hot numbers that WILL happen.
Turbo thanks for explaining your definition of hot and cold numbers. Only one question on this statement that I have.

Time is 8:30. I would like to bet on number 3. Time is 8:40. Number 3 shows up. I start betting number 3 now. 38 spins. Number 3 has appeared 3 times. Time is 9:15 now. Based on above statement number 3 is hot and it is expected to be a long term potentially hot number. Now Mr. X comes and asks me what am I doing. I explain the whole thing to him and he says alright am also going to bet 3 as it is hot. Is he wrong? Am assuming no here as irrespective of whoever is betting number 3 has potential for long term hot as long it has showed above expectation.

May be am missing a trick here, but always ready to learn.
Title: Re: Canon Method
Post by: TurboGenius on January 10, 2017, 11:07:36 PM
I explain the whole thing to him and he says alright am also going to bet 3 as it is hot. Is he wrong? Am assuming no here as irrespective of whoever is betting number 3 has potential for long term hot as long it has showed above expectation.
May be am missing a trick here, but always ready to learn.

Is he wrong ? Yes. "Your" past experience with #3 does not mean that his experience (since he did not win on it 3 times as you have and he just started betting) is going to be that same number continuing to be hot.
It was hot for you already wasn't it ? You won 3 times on it. Those are past spins. They have no influence on future spins but certainly DO have meaning for the spins that you played as a whole. That's not relevant to him in any way.
Missing the trick ? No - you're just not looking at it properly, but that's on you.
Once you get past that way of thinking, you'll certainly see clearly what I'm saying.
I've explained this all already. Past spins mean nothing - go from there I suppose because I'm not about to repeat it all.

Personally I hope you stop posting TG. I've got my reasons for that. Come back in 20 years please. Let me make some money first.

I can understand that. I actually agree with you to some extent.
For the first time my majority of emails have changed from "Can you help me with..." to "would you please stop explaining this" because the people that do get it - get it. Those who don't - require it spelled out in such detail that it would cause problems for the rest. Understandable. Sometimes it's better to shut up lol.
If someone saw a roll of cash on the floor over in the corner but didn't want to be obvious about going over to get it - they wouldn't yell to everyone in the room about the cash.. the dog pile that would ensue would ruin it for everyone. Point taken.
Title: Re: Canon Method
Post by: RouletteGhost on January 10, 2017, 11:20:58 PM
Disagree with both of you on that

"Please stop explaining this". What. Why. Lol

Me is boggles
Title: Re: Canon Method
Post by: BellagioOwner on January 10, 2017, 11:52:37 PM
I agree with most of what @TG says about hot numbers.  I personally had success on 4M longrun with hot numbers system on NZ Roulette. Using the same system on european roulette it tanked. I guess we need to better define the start of a hot number (aka start betting it) and the end of a hot numer (aka stop beting it as it just bleeds us chips)

I explain the whole thing to him and he says alright am also going to bet 3 as it is hot. Is he wrong?
Past spins aren't relevant.
You can look at the list of past hot numbers and that's not going to tell you the future spins being hot or not.

True. But when we define a number as hot don't we compare how many times it got hit within a specific number of spins? Logical 37. So we DO use past spins as we need them for a compass when it started or stops to be hot. So I guess MrX that joins us at roulette can also start betting on our same number but for as long as we do. not any longer as it may not be hot anymore according to our calculations being longer time at the table.

@TG I have some concepts on hot numbers and parts/questions for discussion and I would like our opinion if you like too. If you don't feel like posting too many posts anymore as you stated, would you mind maybe responding to PMs that I could send you?
Title: Re: Canon Method
Post by: TurboGenius on January 11, 2017, 10:41:28 PM
Replied in PM with my email.
Cheers.
Title: Re: Canon Method
Post by: BellagioOwner on January 12, 2017, 01:16:45 AM
I know yes. Thank you. I have emailed you  :thumbsup:

The subject of hot numbers on roulette is really interesting. I like when threads revolve around it or are any new ideas/approaches are discussed.
Title: Re: Canon Method
Post by: jefra on January 12, 2017, 07:48:24 AM
Steve, why I cannot use PMs ??

Bellagio; I have exactly same questions as you and sent them to Turbo, but he never reply on emails.
Title: Re: Canon Method
Post by: Turner on January 12, 2017, 12:03:03 PM
Steve, why I cannot use PMs ??
You cant PM on moderated.

I think its around 7 or 8 posts then you come off moderate.
Title: Re: Canon Method
Post by: RouletteGhost on January 12, 2017, 12:43:13 PM
Sure guys go email

Why post it here

I mean it's not like this is a forum

 :yawn:
Title: Re: Canon Method
Post by: BellagioOwner on January 12, 2017, 01:26:57 PM
I just said about PM because as TG stated he probably wasn't fond anymore to keep on posting the same approaches on the forum. If anyone prefers a more private way rather than posting all his works on forum for everyone, it's fine with me. Personally I have no problem posting publicly but if I don't get any targeted replies that I get easier on emails/PMs I have to get on there too. If anyone wants to make a new thread with any new ideas/approaches on hot numbers I would gladly participate publicly.  If they don't want to, PM's way is fine by me. I can't force them to post :P
Title: Re: Canon Method
Post by: TurboGenius on January 12, 2017, 03:42:45 PM
I do reply to emails - but like I tell everyone, it can take patience.
Sometimes it takes someone a few tries even lol.
I don't pick and choose which ones to reply to - but I don't reply to every one as it comes in, it takes time.

As far as the forums, I have no problem with that other than it being a bad idea (as I said earlier) to yell into a room of people about money you see on the floor. You make your way over to it and pick it up.
Yelling it into the room means everyone jumps on it - no one wins in the end other than the person who just happened to by standing closest to it. Sometimes it's a better thing for all not to take such a open approach. You (I, etc) can still post plenty of info and data while not causing a pile-on in the room. It's just smarter to handle things via email than it is on a internet forum where thousands read and many more thousands lurk without posting. In gambling - you won't find AP people posting openly about the specifics of what they do... if a "system" player doesn't either then that person is automatically the bad guy ? No.