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System Players Only (no advantage play) / Re: Idea based on streets
« on: January 14, 2017, 12:14:03 AM »
I get the point

I just won't play this for sessions

More of a few bets type of deal. Few units then lunch

So based on your continuous lunch references, is there a casino across the street?

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System Players Only (no advantage play) / Re: Idea based on streets
« on: January 12, 2017, 03:57:38 PM »
Very simple and easy method I began testing

I have tested 6 pages of zumma

I am trying to find a method with a hit rate that is safe to use with progression

So to reiterate my point.  A session that I played came up even with EC's.
And the progression was a bit of a white knucke.

"Safe to use with a progression"?

I think the progression is the thing to get fixed.

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System Players Only (no advantage play) / Re: Idea based on streets
« on: January 12, 2017, 03:53:27 PM »
There is a 59 step prog. for 1 Double street but you need 2000 units if betting 1 unit.   I have checked it against about 30 spin sets from Dublinbet posted on this forum.  Every set won in the end but there were some highs on the way.   What I did notice was that if before playing you check the history board and identify a D/S with 2 or 3 hits within first 10/12 spins then this is a d/S that is hot and it went on to win without any long prog.

Another thing that I have been trying (yes it has been done before sometime ago) is betting all 3 E/C`s to repeat previous.  Flat betting.  E/C`s should work out  about 50/50 but what I have noticed is that is can vary up to 10 units either way and will swing from one way to the other.  Keep playing until you are (say) 10 units in front then jump off.  Worst that I have had is break even.  No stress.  You do not have to work out what to bet.  Or bet opposite to last or alternate: it`s your choice.   Is differential betting appropriate for this (has progression)

Brian

I think that I agree with this 100%.  I have notice the same pendulum swing.

So now it seems like we have a toolkit of similar methods doing similar things.

I think that seeing a losing streak/trend on one and playing it to comeback might
be a way of jumping in and jumping out.

I am getting a lot more intuitive sitting at the table.

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System Players Only (no advantage play) / Re: Idea based on streets
« on: January 12, 2017, 01:43:38 PM »
HG aside, for a stellar set of results, 7 losses in a row would put you on the ropes.
A general observation for what results maybe in using a progression.

Often we think about the "killer streak". Well that streak can be embedded I a good session.
Or there can be a real streak, which will knock you out of the park.

Bet selection aside, I think that the mm is the thing that is the problem to be addresses.

I remember decades ago saying to someone in a chat room, "It's not WHAT happens that
we don't know. It's what ORDER it will happen".

It's nice to play a method that just feeds you profit. But maybe that's not the correct thing
to do. Can't have your cake and eat it too.

How close are you to the casino?

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System Players Only (no advantage play) / Re: Idea based on streets
« on: January 11, 2017, 11:52:28 PM »
So is this the "same old same old"?  EC betting with the same results?

http://www.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=18368.45  Reply # 54



On a more serious note, I decided to play this live today. Using the
50 cent inside bets I bet $1.50 on the 3 choiced. And tracked it.

I made like $10, and it was seeming very good. Flat bet. And I stopped
betting and recorded. I have the paper here in front of me.

At a certain point I got a lot of losses on paper.  7 in a row including one zero.
Mentally and emotionally it seemed a little sour.

I've been out all night and just got back looking it over. Overall I counted the
wins and losses. I basically got 25 wins and 25 losses. Including 3 losses from zeros.

But my point is that I'm not sure how I would play this with a progression of any
kind with confidence.  Even with an actual even split, the distribution was the thing
that was killing me.  Good bet selection just didn't cover it (unless I just bet
blind and was happy breaking even).






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Outside The Box / Re: I am in chains
« on: January 11, 2017, 06:21:16 AM »
On a more serious note, I decided to play this live today. Using the
50 cent inside bets I bet $1.50 on the 3 choiced. And tracked it.

I made like $10, and it was seeming very good. Flat bet. And I stopped
betting and recorded. I have the paper here in front of me.

At a certain point I got a lot of losses on paper.  7 in a row including one zero.
Mentally and emotionally it seemed a little sour.

I've been out all night and just got back looking it over. Overall I counted the
wins and losses. I basically got 25 wins and 25 losses. Including 3 losses from zeros.

But my point is that I'm not sure how I would play this with a progression of any
kind with confidence.  Even with an actual even split, the distribution was the thing
that was killing me.  Good bet selection just didn't cover it (unless I just bet
blind and was happy breaking even).

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Outside The Box / Re: I am in chains
« on: January 11, 2017, 06:15:50 AM »
I've spoken to him about it to

Many think it cheats

I think your chances are better on airball if you sit at a full table. That's if it is cheating. Then will it avoid your bets or the guy betting a thousand per spin?

At my local casino the euro airball minimum is $20. I watched an Asian woman bet 2k per spin and won big. Is it cheating?

I walked up to the game once. There are 5 games facing each other. There was
one guy on one side that was playing 4 machines. He had maybe $200 in each
machine. I forget.  A woman walked by, looked at me and said, "I'll kick him in the balls,
and you get the tickets. We'll split it".  Anyway, the guy was running back and forth
making single dozen bets. The same on each game. Like $100 bets.

In about 5 min he finished with $1000 on each machine. There was a clear example
where the machine could see large bets on several machines.  And he won.

I asked him what he was doing and he said that if you cash out for more than $1000,
they withhold taxes, and that was the point. No idea how he was playing.

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Outside The Box / Re: I am in chains
« on: January 09, 2017, 11:56:03 PM »
i am very glad your FOBT is proving to be an unfixed source

i dont know if data collecting an airball wheel would help

if it were to cheat it wouldnt be when im watching and recording it would be if i was betting

gut feeling tells me the airball is real

Likewise

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Systems, Products & Services For Sale / Re: Steve's computers
« on: January 09, 2017, 07:35:50 PM »
Roulettephysics.com is a starting point from what I have read before.

That's what I probably thought. I read through some of the things, and it looked like
there was a lot of tracking and calculating, to be simplistic.

But Steve makes it sound like there's a simpler way.

I guess I'm old, but I'm past white knuckling it.

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Outside The Box / Re: I am in chains
« on: January 09, 2017, 07:30:14 PM »
Whenever I hit a 0 I stop playing and often switch table because owing to DS there is a high chance of at least 1 and possibly 2 zeroes coming out soon.  Of course you could do the reverse and bet zero for 36 spins.

Brian

I agree with this completely.

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Outside The Box / Re: I am in chains
« on: January 09, 2017, 04:28:36 PM »
Mogul did you bet same as string above or against?

A0BAA
AABAA

I got that. Which betting against would have lost the Marty

Now I just realize one thing

Had I sit out the line following the 0 outcome I would have missed that loss

Perhaps sitting out the string after a 0 shows is wise.

Going back over tests if I sit out the string of 5 after the string that contains a 0 or double 0 I then win all strings with Marty betting against

Not sure how confident I'd be to use real dough

I've done different things. (In other testing similar to this matrix thing).
Take the result from the row above. Wait for a clean string.
Etc.  I use SOMETHING.

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Outside The Box / Re: I am in chains
« on: January 09, 2017, 04:25:40 PM »
Lost my post again. Don't know why it happens.

Anyway, I don't suspect airball.  For one thing, I wait till the
ball is released.  Also, there are 10 stations. So which one is
it going to cheat?


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Outside The Box / Re: I am in chains
« on: January 09, 2017, 12:59:27 PM »
I didn't notice the different one. But I picked DS's 1,3,5 and 2.4.6.

In a group of 5, I went 5 back and played the opposite. I did it
on a rolling basis.  Every spin. I think it did slightly better than
50% and only had maybe 2 losses in a row, once.

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Outside The Box / Re: I am in chains
« on: January 09, 2017, 03:39:29 AM »
I just did a zumma page and a page of my own data.
Both were consistently good.

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Systems, Products & Services For Sale / Re: Steve's computers
« on: January 08, 2017, 07:13:41 PM »
Hi, there is a trial but pls contact me via my site about it, not the forum

Not familiar with any of this.

Where is the site?

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