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Main Roulette Board / Re: Thanks to Bayes
« on: January 10, 2017, 09:51:37 AM »
Why your pattern should give you an advantage?
If it's a way to be discipled OK,but all patterns are the same

General Discussion / Re: Masianello
« on: December 25, 2015, 07:42:53 AM »
Very old and disappointing method.
You lose all your BKR if in 20 spins there are exactly 10 Reds and 10 Blacks.
Too high.....
I lose a lot of money with Masaniello,trust me

Testing zone / Re: The SLAP strategy
« on: January 07, 2015, 10:38:51 AM »
Thanks Atlantis,
simpler,quicker and less dangerous method!

Testing zone / Re: The SLAP strategy
« on: January 06, 2015, 02:19:15 PM »
Very nice method that I have tried to use years ago without success.
The problem is that,at the end, Losses are higher than the sum of  the small and very frequent Wins.
The law of the appearance of DS(Streets too!) is very well explained on the web.
In AVERAGE(and this is a problem,because the average doesn't help the player):
-after 5 spins,1 DS hits 2 times
-after 9 spins, 1DS hits 3 times
-after 14 spins,1 DS hits 4 times
-after 18 spins ,1 DS hits 5 times
-after 23 spins ,1 DS hits 6 times
- and so on…..

Personally I tried a method with a DS appearing 4,5 or 6 times.
The problem is what GLC underlined:the killer section,that is rare ,but not rare enough for being winner at the end of 100 or more sessions.

So I decide to play for a DS appearing 2 or 3 times,respectively after 4 different DS(I played 2 spins) and after 8 different DS(I played 3 spins).
Very often I must retrack,but the game was quick,I didn't' need many spins and,most important,my bkr was "protected"

These last 2 methods,mainly the first one(4 different DS and than attacking for a DS hitting a second time) are the best one in my opinion.
I gave them up,but now this thread convinces me to study it again.
After several tests,I decided to attack only one spin.If loss I waited for a second situation with 4 different DS.
Progression 1 1 2 2 4 4 8 8 etc up and down if L or W

The Atlantis system illustrated in this thread is interesting and we all thanks him for the idea,but,trust on me,it's very dangerous for a semi-professional player having almost 50/ 100 visits in a Casino per years.
If you visit a Casino 3 times a year is OK,if you are not particularly unlucky.

Money management / Re: Parlays
« on: December 21, 2014, 09:18:13 AM »
it's almost exact! He doesn't bet OTL,but:

R(no bet),R (no bet),R (no bet),B(now he bets R,because he hopes that B becomes a SINGLE,between two R)

R(no bet) R(no bet) B(play R,but B hits again),now no bet until a R hits and then he plays B(looking for a SINGLE  R)

The theory is that number of 2 in a row or more = number of SINGLES
But in the category "more than 2 in a row" there are also very very long streaks(100 in a row,…200 in a row….300 in a row….,that we 'll never see in our life)
Because of that ,SINGLES hit a bit more than x in a row,because they must take an advantage for compensating very very long streaks that theoretically exist,but no player will never see.

Test with RX extreme confirms, this theory but not enough to offset - 1,35% house advantage,that becomes around -1%

Money management / Re: Parlays
« on: December 20, 2014, 04:44:28 PM »
Interesting little anecdote.
I know also some old and wise man,who are convinced that playing in a given way,they have an advantage.
For instance (and I confess that I studied a lot about it) an old player in Montecarlo Casino plays all the time the even chance looking for "SINGLE"
RRRBRRRRRBRBRRR:here we have three SINGLES at Black an one at Red.
His theory is the following:
Singles are the same as the sum of patterns of 2 + patterns of 3+ patterns of 4 +………patterns of 150(just an example)…. + patterns of 270(just an example)…..and so on.
Because he'll never see a streak of 150 or 270 or more in B or R,he's convinced that SINGLES take a small advantage vs higher patterns.
SINGLES must hit more often in order to offset the higher patterns that he'll never see in his life,but must hit too sooner or later(very later….)mathematically.
I hope you can understand my bad english

Money management / Re: Parlays
« on: December 20, 2014, 08:51:28 AM »
your 1,1,1,2,2,3,4,5,7,9(35 units) has the same probability of losing as 1,2,4,8,16(31 units).
If it seems incredible,no progression is better than a classic martingale as probability of W or L.

Main Roulette Board / Re: something i thought of. betting on 18 numbers
« on: August 29, 2014, 07:49:56 AM »
Much better to play 18 numbers that have not hit in the last 25/30 decisions(25/30 due to the law of third).
In this way you play 18 numbers(like an even chance) sleeping since 25/30 spins or more.

Mathematics / Re: 3 spins out of 7/probability
« on: July 23, 2014, 03:40:34 PM »
Perfect,it wasn't complicated....

Mathematics / Re: 3 spins out of 7/probability
« on: July 23, 2014, 09:50:03 AM »
Congratulations Biagle!

I prefer play for single....BBR I'd play B.   RRRRRRB I'd play R,if L RRRRRBB I wait for change of colour RRRRRRBBBBBR I'd play B.

This money management is very interesting because if you lose - 99 units,but if you win + 29 units,almost 30% of BKR.
 Very easy and fast ricovery.

Mathematics / Re: 3 spins out of 7/probability
« on: July 16, 2014, 10:20:23 AM »
x warrior
what about your results at the Casino,with this approach?

x Turner
I have understood your mistake or my very confused question.
Your 28,02% is the probability to win EXACTLY 3 spins in,at the most,7 spins.
I asked the probabilty to win AT LEAST 3 spins in 7 spins,that is 75%,because of Zero,otherwise,without Zero,is almost 77%

Mathematics / Re: 3 spins out of 7/probability
« on: July 10, 2014, 01:31:39 PM »
It's a very old algorithm used for betting(horses,football....)
Now is available for roulette.
Here the bets, in units:

15  20  24  24  16
10  16  24  32  32
  4    8  16  32  64

Start from the first figure up on the left(15).
In case of W you go below,in case of L you go right.
Starting from 15,if W,next bet 10 or 20 if L and so on:the figure below if W,the figure at the right if L.
3 wins in a row(it happens):15 + 10 + 4= +29

3 wins at least in 7 spins :  + 29 units.
If you lose 5 spins in a row or 5 L and 2 W ,in 7 spins at the most: -99 units

Is it clear?

A better money management(ratio yield/bkr related to % of W or L) doesn't exist.
Very boring and hit and run method.

Mathematics / Re: 3 spins out of 7/probability
« on: July 10, 2014, 07:54:22 AM »
I don't want to be arrogant neither.
May be it's difficult to explain the problem on the Forum
I obtained the figure I mentioned by four different sources,two of them very qualified and two of them Ph.D in math/statistiques very soon.

Mathematics / Re: 3 spins out of 7/probability
« on: July 09, 2014, 07:36:23 PM »
Betting Red

RRR win ,RRBR win,RBBBRR win,BBRRBBR win, BBBRRR win,RBRBRB, win RBRR ,and so on

Goal:to win 3 RED in 7 spins at the most= 76,6% ,because of Zero,otherwise 75,...%

Mathematics / Re: 3 spins out of 7/probability
« on: July 09, 2014, 02:20:18 PM »
Thanks again Turner.
The answer to my first question is 76,6%(Zero taken into account) that in 7 spins a player wins at least 3 spins.
The profit(29 units) is too low compared with bkr (99 units) and with the risk(23,4%) of losing it all.

A bit more interesting is what you mention, that is:
10 spins:bkr 97 units,profits 32 units,only  if you won't have exactly 5 Reds and 5 Blacks.
Probability that perfect equilibrium occurs(bkr 97 units lost, in this case) is 25,5%(Zero taken into account).
Of course you win 32 units as soon as you reach 6 W out of 10 spins(probability 74,5%).
The probability is lower than first example,bur ratio win/bkr is more favorable.

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