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The Notepad / Re: NLE mk2
« on: February 16, 2017, 11:25:38 PM »
Good idea if it helps.

But none of the lists of numbers here are from me.

Mostly notto.

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System Players Only (no advantage play) / Re: About this section
« on: February 16, 2017, 11:23:29 PM »
Thanks for your candor.

The truth, IMO, is in the realm of if I buy something that would make money;
that kind of money, then I would be working long and hard just to break even.

I'd be working for you. Or whoever.

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System Players Only (no advantage play) / Re: double dozen progressions
« on: February 16, 2017, 05:48:28 PM »
Thanks. I haven't really taken it for a test drive money wise.

I feel your pain on the table mins.  It has ALWAYS been a factor in considering
tie viability of a method just like casino distance and other things have. Like it
may be worth going further for lower limits.  Or if you have something that
tends to be more flat bet.

The bottom line becomes, "do I believe in this enough, and how much will I throw at it".

One thing that sticks in my craw about NLE is step 5 on a D'alenbert is 15 units. step 10
is 45.  So in my thick head I think in terms of $100 bank. I need to know how far it will
take me, and I'm stuck there. For now.  Bleep has indirectly shown me that that's foolish.
4-6 units becomes his mid point.  But with NLE2, it sounds a bit less volatile.

Anyway in terms of the DD, as long as you sit out losing streaks, the +1 does seem to have
some strength in keeping up, and hoping for the win streak. I'm just not sure if it should
be controlled.

Maybe the +/- 1 is the best for now.  A lot safer than 3 shots at 1,3,9

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System Players Only (no advantage play) / Re: About this section
« on: February 16, 2017, 01:44:52 PM »
Steve,

I certainly always am willing to explore the correct and best answer. I signed up
for the roulettephysics thing where they sent out emails with examples of stuff.

Obviously facts are facts and physics is physics. And I assume that you have some
knowledge and expertise there.  Given that presumed fact....

1) I found the sales pitch elusive.
2) It certainly was expensive and looked like you got roped into buying more and more.
3) Guessing it only works on REAL wheels? and not even airball?

So all the "bullshit" aside, I wouldn't want to buy something I wasn't sure I would
have an application for, and pay thousands for another method. People get made
fun of for that, but the real rub is that you actually got "played".

So is there a simple, USABLE, segment to RF? That doesn't cost thousands of $$$ to
buy into as right of passage?

Thanks



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System Players Only (no advantage play) / double dozen progressions
« on: February 16, 2017, 01:38:07 PM »
Thought I'd open a new thread to talk about this double dozen
progression stuff. I think we get 1,3,9 or 1,3,9 27.

But has anyone worked with and had any success with the +1
after a loss thing?  I toyed with the thing that said "+1 till you recoup".

As Bleep emphasized in the other thread, there is also sitting out losses,
which I recommend. But I haven't dug into the math on this thing.

RG I know this is your bag. And I also like DD.

So any ideas or stories of experiences?

Another angle, I think, is not +1 EVERY spin as an old original suggested.
But I don't know.


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System Players Only (no advantage play) / Re: column betting idea
« on: February 16, 2017, 01:31:07 PM »
Ouch. (But not ouch).

Though for months through stupidity that mine was $5, and saw a woman next
to me play $2. The thing SAYS "50 cent min"........ on the inside.  So I ASSUMED
2 years ago, that it was $5.  It is $2.  And if I try that, like any creature of habit,
my inclination is "let's not waste time" and do $

On the other end, twin rivers has real tables, and their roulette is often $25.
Tom goes there, and plays that.  I just have to repeat. I haven't gone there in a
while since plainridge is 15 min a way. But when I did I walked up to the RNG
after the real table. 15 min later only 4 numbers came in. What a killer. One
dealer did everything, so it took forever.

But $10 min get you thinking about if/when you're going to jump in a little more.
 

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The Notepad / Re: NLE mk2
« on: February 16, 2017, 01:22:35 PM »
these just played on multi player watching trot +44
21
13
31
10
3
21
8
22
14
35
8
16
15
12
16
10
16
13
17
30
10
22
16
5
14
0
4
9
3
35
8
18
17
23
9
2
19
34
9
31
28
2
24
0
13
8
31
12
7
14
32
10
35
35
30
35
31
17
27
31
pretty fast on there, think theres 28 of the 37 hit
Perhaps the latest celebrity on here could show the workings, 397

How did you get that many triggers with those numbers?

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System Players Only (no advantage play) / Re: column betting idea
« on: February 16, 2017, 02:10:51 AM »
1 3 9 27

 :xd:

Let me and everyone know when you go and test it.

Of course on a $5 table. Not 50 cents.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/npsQJVKx3Ss/hqdefault.jpg

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System Players Only (no advantage play) / Re: column betting idea
« on: February 16, 2017, 02:09:32 AM »
Why is no one saying stop after a loss.  That will stop 2 3 4 5 etc. losses in a row.  Wait a VW.  Looking at those numbers there was a string of wins both before and after that 5.

Good idea not to try and win back losses in one go.

BLeep

I thought I kind of said it recently.

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System Players Only (no advantage play) / Re: column betting idea
« on: February 16, 2017, 02:08:46 AM »
Thunder, what you say is true. Since there is that sneeky method
that would have you bet $5 then 4,3,2,1 after wins. It is the same as
what the D'alenbert does. but starting in the middle.

The point of looking at what I said is only to potentially get you on
wins and stay off losses.  The idea of 66% win chance helps that.

And no, I mis spoke about the other side. The losses. But I still keep looking
to that side for 2-1 ops.

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System Players Only (no advantage play) / Re: column betting idea
« on: February 15, 2017, 07:16:51 PM »
Here it is.  I would scan or copy it, but I hate it when people think
I can read their chicken scratch.

There is a part of me that notices that win and loss runs tend to
run. And neither one is infrequent. So maybe watching for the losses and
capitalizing on the win streaks have some merit.


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19 L
17 W
33 W
13 W
36 L     5 losses, and yes it was right out of the box.
29 L
22 L
8   L
23 L
8  W
18 L
27 W
25 W
6   W
35 W
23 W
32 L
34 W
7   L
8  W
31 W
31 W
33 W
21 W
2   L
10 W
19 L
30 W
15 L
22 W
27 W
19 L
33 W
21 W
21 W
31 W
17 W
29 W

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System Players Only (no advantage play) / Re: column betting idea
« on: February 15, 2017, 01:27:16 PM »
Again. Real data.  This is the 2nd time you have asked this.
I ALWAYS begin with the zumma page when I use it.  ALWAYS But
I also have sheets here from other trips. So when I make that reference, it
is from one of my sheets.

I know you think I'm in love with zumma. But it's just another page of data.
Oftentimes it's just a convenient thing to glance through, because it's formatted
well. Seems to stand out, when you see me type the word often (and you would
see that exactly because of my claim above. That I ALWAYS indicate my source.
So over time you might have seen it and think that I call it "Saint Zumma",
but, unlike you, I also actually go.

As it happens my wife is going away this week for a couple nights, so that will leave
some free time, and I probably will go. But I am getting more and more confused
about which method and what I should do.

Need to spend more time thinking about the +1 unit on the DD as a progression.
Haven't quite seen the horizon on that one. Need to do some thinking or some work.

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System Players Only (no advantage play) / Re: column betting idea
« on: February 15, 2017, 01:28:00 AM »
In my opinion washoo 2 is "one money management tweak" away from being a solid money making strategy

Longest L I've seen is 4

Just grabbed a paper with data and got 5 losses.
Pretty quick

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System Players Only (no advantage play) / Re: column betting idea
« on: February 15, 2017, 01:23:10 AM »
How about a single increment on losses?   +/- 1 or something.
+ 1 on a loss till recoup?

Or even better, the obvious problem or disadvantage is the fact of
when losses come in a bunch.  Happens all the time or sooner or later.
How about not trying to recoup losses instantly, but get them back off
of wins.

Isn't it kind of stupid to get a loss and expect a win? When losses are happening?
More likely (if I can use that word) that wins will follow each other.

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System Players Only (no advantage play) / Re: column betting idea
« on: February 15, 2017, 01:17:49 AM »
Like I said, that's now how it was sold.  Ever.

That is "progression mentality". Nothing wrong with it, I'm just saying.

And the vast majority of test I've made (from memory) weren't
very good. In terms of flat betting.  Of course, now I'm going to grab
some more numbers and check.

But here's the question. What is the angle or the gimmick? What is it about
any of those sets of numbers that make the next bet selection better?
Did he just pull them out of his ass?

There had to be SOME basis.

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