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The Triple Attack

Started by GLC, Aug 15, 05:13 PM 2012

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GLC

This is a system designed for the baccarat players who can't play on-line and therefore have to mortgage the house to play live in a B&M casino.  Of course, if it works for baccarat, it will work on roulette also.

I hate when members start a system and only give us a tidbit here and there and it takes 3 pages of posts to finally get the whole system presented.  But, this is a tad bit complicated to explain so I'm afraid I'm going to have to present it a little at a time.  I won't take too long.

This first post is to just give you the skeleton on which the rest of the system will hang.

I call it The Triple Attack because it is made up of 3 components.

The 1st component is Iceman's system where he only bets on the 2nd dimension.  I choose this system because in my opinion, and that of a few others that I have been in communication with, this systems tends to have wins in clumps of 3 or more a little more often than others.  That's important for our bet progression.

This is our bet selection method.  If you don't like it, you can use one of your own and still be a winner.


The 2nd component is called the Hollandish bet progression.  I have a post under Money Management called "Clean up before Move up" that is based on this method.  Basically you recover previous levels while betting at the next level and you have to recover all lost units at the previous level before you can go to the next, next level to recover the units you lost while recovering the previous level from the one your on now, etc... :o

The 3rd and final component is my latest bet progression that is based on a tweak of the Star system by Carsch and then a tweak of Carsch's tweak by me. ??? :o

When we put these three together it gives us a lot of strength.  This whole concept is based on a verse found in Ecclesiastes 4:12: I will paraphrase it.  "One can be conquered but two standing back to back will prevail.  And a cord of three strands is very difficult to break."  (Translation by GLC).  And you thought there was no wisdom in the Bible.  Oh, ye of little faith.

More later. :thumbsup:

In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

Wally Gator

George, I love reading your posts.  I can't wait to see how this one plays out.  You are such an asset to this forum.  Thanks for all you do.
A person with a new idea is a crank until the idea succeeds. ~ Mark Twain

GLC

Quote from: Wally Gator on Aug 15, 05:46 PM 2012
George, I love reading your posts.  I can't wait to see how this one plays out.  You are such an asset to this forum.  Thanks for all you do.

Thanks Wally. 

I just had my skin screening yesterday.  I had a pretty good size melanoma removed a few years back, then another one the following year.  But, I've been clean now for 5 years.  Only have to go in once a year now.  This dang Arizona sun's too hot.

I mention it because other than the melonoma, high cholesterol, triglicerides, enlarged prostate, prone to severe gout attacks, insomnia, accute baldness, and been beat half to death with an ugly stick, I hope to be around entertaining you guys for years to come.

That is, unless this turns out to be the  :ooh: :ooh: :ooh: :ooh: :ooh: :ooh: :ooh: :ooh: :ooh: :ooh:
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

GLC

I'm going to work from the tweaked star progressions backward explaining this system.
Here's the basic bet progression:
1
1  Repeat
1  Parlay
1  Repeat then Parlay
1  Repeat then Parlay
1  Repeat then Parlay

Here's how it looks:
Level 1:  Bet 1 unit until you lose.  Once you lose move to level 2.
Level 2:  Bet 1 unit.  If you lose move to level 3.  If you win, repeat the bet.  If you lose you will be even because you just won a unit.  Repeat as if it's your first bet at level 2.  If you win and then win the repeat you will be +2 less the unit you lost from the 1st level = +1.  If you get behind by 1 unit, go to level 3.
Level 3:  Bet 1 unit.  If you lose move to level 4.  If you win, parlay the bet.  So 1 wins us 1 more for 2 units.  Bet the 2 units.  A loss moves us to level 4.  A win gives us 4 units less the 2 we lost on level 1 and level 2 and also the unit we started level 3 with = +1
Level 4:  Bet 1 unit.  If you lose move to level 5.  If you win, repeat the bet.  Another win gives us +2 plus our original 1 unit to start level 4 which = 3.  Parlay these 3 units and a win gives us 6-4=+2.
Level 5:  Bet 1 unit.  Continue per level 4 except at the end you will only have +1.
Level 6:  Bet  1 unit.  Continue per level 5 except at the end you will have 0 units won.

That gives us 6 chances to win.  If we lose at level 6, we write down six 1's on a sheet of paper.  These 1's represent the 1st level of our hollandish bet progression.

Next we repeat the above 6 steps but our starting bet is 2 units instead of 1 unit.  Anytime we are ahead 2 or more units in an attack we will immediately cross off 2 of the 1's in the 1st level.  If we cross off all the 1's without losing all 6 of the 6 step bet cyle outlined above, we will stop starting our attacks at 2 units and drop back to 1 unit.

If we lose all 6 or our steps without clearing the 1's, we will write down six 2's to the right of the 1's.  We will continue to play at the 2nd level until all the 1's are crossed off.  Every time we lose a 6 step cycle at the 2 level and there are still 1's to be crossed off, we will write down six 2's to the right end of our recovery line.

Once all the 1's are crossed off and if we have written down six or more 2's, we move to starting our 6 steps with 3 units.  We play at the 3rd level until we cross off all the 2's.  Any 6 step loss at the 3rd level before all the 2's are crossed off will result in our writing down six 3's.

Continue in this manner until all losses have been recovered.  Then reset back to 1.
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

vladir

It seems a very good idea... but I magine in practice this to be veryyyyyyy time consuming sometimes, when you start getting in the hole and acomulating lines of 2's, then 3's, etc... until all losses are recovered. It seems a very strong method tough, especially to a bot that could work 24 hours/day.

"In God we trust; all others must bring data", W. Edwards Deming

monaco

Just ran through some shoes from the last few days, all ended in the positive (except Sam's example shoe from 'TwoCat Baccarat' system which came out break even).
Biggest drawdown was -18, and biggest bet was at the 3unit level.

I tried FTL for the following reason - here you're looking for 2 or 3 wins in a row - most shoes have about 60 decisions not including ties, which should come out something like:-
15 singles
7 doubles
4 trebles
2 4's
1 5 (or more)

so, on average, you should get at least 3 3-in-a-row winners & more at the 1st 3 levels of the Star prog where you only need 2 wins in a row (many small wins should come there).

not so many tests, but I'll loook at some more shoes when i get back home.

A problem would be the commission on Banker as the way i tested, you're betting every hand, and it could require prolonged play to clear a difficult hollandish line.
You could add a few single units to the line when needed possibly.

As its a bit of a low unit grinder, a 3 or 4 unit win per shoe when the units really count could be doable..

[I've attached the tricky shoe]

F_LAT_INO

Quote from: GLC on Aug 15, 07:27 PM 2012

Thanks Wally. 

I just had my skin screening yesterday.  I had a pretty good size melanoma removed a few years back, then another one the following year.  But, I've been clean now for 5 years.  Only have to go in once a year now.  This dang Arizona sun's too hot.

I mention it because other than the melonoma, high cholesterol, triglicerides, enlarged prostate, prone to severe gout attacks, insomnia, accute baldness, and been beat half to death with an ugly stick, I hope to be around entertaining you guys for years to come.

That is, unless this turns out to be the  :ooh: :ooh: :ooh: :ooh: :ooh: :ooh: :ooh: :ooh: :ooh: :ooh:


--Gi George,
--Got scared to hear all that.Must move from there to the sea.Swimming in the sea/not swimming
pool/heals everything.Every early morning in the dawn am doing my rue of about 1-2 hours.
When others are comming on the beach I'm going home.My intercostal neuralgy disappeared,feel
like Sam with 65...LOL
You can always get me on  
ivica.boban@ri.t-com.hr

Tomla021

George,
Very interesting progression and I will try it out.... You must be busy moving to the sea?
"No Whining, just Winning"

GLC

Guys,  Yes this can be very slow and it can be a grinder deluxe.

As your posts indicate, there are a million ways to tweak this.  The idea of using the Hollandish progression as a base for another bet progression is the key component.  Instead of the Star type progressions, you can also use Ambidex idea which risk 4 units to win 4 units.  It may be more stable.

Hey, I just come up with the initial idea.  I have too much A.D.D. to hone it down to a razor sharp edge.

Ivo,  I'm a little embarrassed to compare my poor health at 63 to yours at 73.  I'm just glad you are doing so well.  My wife is still hinting that she'd like to go back to Croatia and also Slovenia for a visit.  Darn air fare is too high at this time and I'm too busy at work to get away.

I think I'll start with a swimming pool for exercise since it's 7 hours to the ocean.  I hear swimming is a very good form of exercise when your knees start giving out on you.  We have 2 community pools here within a few blocks of my house.  I've just been too lazy to use them.  You've given me inspiration.

George
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

vladir

Hey on that issue, I recommend you take some taichichuan / qiqong classes. You may even like it, on top of improving your health.

"In God we trust; all others must bring data", W. Edwards Deming

Turner

Quote from: GLC on Aug 15, 07:27 PM 2012

Thanks Wally. 

I just had my skin screening yesterday.  I had a pretty good size melanoma removed a few years back, then another one the following year.  But, I've been clean now for 5 years.  Only have to go in once a year now.  This dang Arizona sun's too hot.

I mention it because other than the melonoma, high cholesterol, triglicerides, enlarged prostate, prone to severe gout attacks, insomnia, accute baldness, and been beat half to death with an ugly stick, I hope to be around entertaining you guys for years to come.

That is, unless this turns out to be the  :ooh: :ooh: :ooh: :ooh: :ooh: :ooh: :ooh: :ooh: :ooh: :ooh:

George...i hear you have lovely knees though!

Seriously.....Out of your list...the enlarged prostrate is the most serious. What is your PSA level if I may ask

Turner

GLC

Quote from: turnerfeck on Aug 17, 12:28 PM 2012
George...i hear you have lovely knees though!

Seriously.....Out of your list...the enlarged prostrate is the most serious. What is your PSA level if I may ask

Turner

I'm doing pretty good with PSA level of .7 if my memory is right.  I just have to take a muscle relaxer at this stage.  So far no indication of cancer.

Thanks,

GLC
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

GLC

Quote from: vladir on Aug 17, 11:27 AM 2012
Hey on that issue, I recommend you take some taichichuan / qiqong classes. You may even like it, on top of improving your health.

I assume that's the long version of Tai Chi.  I've considered it.  Are you a student?
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

Ralph

I am a former marathon  runner, still I do 42 km from time to time, but i may take the time.
In the 1960 while I were at the best, the sport did not count as today.
The best way to fail, is not to try!

catalyst

Quote from: GLC on Aug 15, 05:13 PM 2012

When we put these three together it gives us a lot of strength.  This whole concept is based on a verse found in Ecclesiastes 4:12: I will paraphrase it.  "One can be conquered but two standing back to back will prevail.  And a cord of three strands is very difficult to break."  (Translation by GLC).  And you thought there was no wisdom in the Bible.  Oh, ye of little faith.

More later. :thumbsup:

"........time and unforseen occurences befall them all" (Ecclesiastes)  :twisted: :twisted:
you are not only progression guru but also a good writer!


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