SURROUND boost

[Nickmsi]

Yikes . . .

I did not know MOP had posted two systems with the name Surround System and Surround Boost . . .

I posted this under the wrong one, but it still works great. . .

Will take a look at the "Boost" and thanks for letting me know.

Nick

[Stepkevh]

MOP,

thanks for the great system, tested it a few times and works good but i tweaked it a bit.

For me its works better this way.

always your bets inclusif the high ec.

SO were betting  Dz1, Cl3, Red, Odd & High, all starting with 1u.

progression:

this one isnt completed yet, that's why it needs some testing.

If one of the following falls you add or distract shown units on all bets.

1 EC                +3
2 EC                +2
3 EC                 -1
1 1/2               +2
2 1/2                -2
3 EC & 1 1/2    -4
2 EC & 1 1/2    -3
1 EC & 1 1/2    Always same bet because it gives 0 profit
2 EC & 2 1/2    -5  Uptill now it always given me a new high

Don't know yet how much units now to add if you lose all bets because it didnt happen yet but maybe +3 or +4

And offcourse on a new high you reset all bets to 1.

Stephan

[Ralph]

I am flexible with the progressions, if I have one unit on each, and lose on all, I do not add up three, rather one or two.   That means I sometimes win less, but keep the stakes down.

I always start over on new high, or if high stake I start over on break even.

[xxlakis]

10000 NZ spins.


126 sessions +100 units
63 sessions -300 units

[Ralph]

I have tested a while now, and see problems, similar to the 2/3 bets. It hits often, but have problems to win  enough on a good streak, to compensate for a bad one.

The stakes get high when the few numbers not covered hits many times in a row(which they will do).

I tested long time ago to bet RED ODD and 1 DOZ, and found the same problem.

Cover a too large area will hit often for small plus, but when the real bad runs come, its nearly impossible to recover.  The same problem have all bets cover more than 50%. The winnings are to small to compensate for the worse runs.  Every betting method will run well on a winning streak.

Its what happen in the bad ones need the attention.
For example, I do far better betting 1 DOZ than 2, for the above reasons.

[Master_of_pockets]

I have tested a while now, and see problems, similar to the 2/3 bets. It hits often, but have problems to win  enough on a good streak, to compensate for a bad one.

The stakes get high when the few numbers not covered hits many times in a row(which they will do).

I tested long time ago to bet RED ODD and 1 DOZ, and found the same problem.

Cover a too large area will hit often for small plus, but when the real bad runs come, its nearly impossible to recover.  The same problem have all bets cover more than 50%. The winnings are to small to compensate for the worse runs.  Every betting method will run well on a winning streak.

Its what happen in the bad ones need the attention.
For example, I do far better betting 1 DOZ than 2, for the above reasons.

And this is the reason why I adviced for a STOP LOSS(BR)
It s natural to be some times that the bets will get very high and there will be no chance to make  new +(it s happening with all systems that have progression(...and that s why we have to limit those situations with a stop loss.

xxlakis we must test this system that way:
1 session ends when we lose a 200 chips Br (RULE)
This doesn t mean that when we PLAY the system ,we have to lose 200 chips in order to stop or start playing with 1 chips on all bets again...its just for the testing perposes...

Did u do ur testing according to the rule above mate?

[Master_of_pockets]

Attention to all members that are playing the system

I tested the system with various stop losses.
50 chips , 100 chips , 200 chips , 300 chips , 500 chips , 1000 chips.

The system couldn t produce long term profits.
This means that the more you play it the more money you will be losing.Like all systems.

So I strongly advice the members that are playing the system and won some money to stop playing it and KEEP the winnings...if they will continue to play it(no matter hit and run GF) they WILL lose the earnings plus capital.

Its time for modifying the system or abandon it.

[TwoCatSam]

Master

I think you are too hard on yourself.  It's not whether the system crashes over a rouzillion spins.  We know it will.  It's whether or not it will win more sessions that it loses.  Can I win ten before I lose ten and how many times can I do it?

I like this idea.  I may "tweak" the progression, but I doubt it.  If this were put in a divisor--or another thing I know of--you might not live long enough to actually lose.

I think I'll just play it ten for ten.

Sam

[TwoCatSam]

Ding Dong!!

Made another 10 Euro.  I am using the Boffin's, Surround Boost and my "TwoCats out of Five" system. 

Playing dimes, you know.  Really itching to go to dollars.  Will moviefy that play if I do!!

Youse guys can hear me sweat!!

Samster

[TwoCatSam]

Made another 11.2 Euro but had to go down 35 to get my winners.  All three were in the straights!  No repeaters to bet on.  Boffin's boffed me.

It was good in the end.

"It will all be good in the end.  If it is not good, it is not yet the end!"

Sam

[Master_of_pockets]

Master

I think you are too hard on yourself.  It's not whether the system crashes over a rouzillion spins.  We know it will.  It's whether or not it will win more sessions that it loses.  Can I win ten before I lose ten and how many times can I do it?

I like this idea.  I may "tweak" the progression, but I doubt it.  If this were put in a divisor--or another thing I know of--you might not live long enough to actually lose.

I think I'll just play it ten for ten.

Sam

exactly Sam...and this is what the testing showed...that it is losing more sessions than winning.

I worned you already to stop using it....it will be sad to lose all those chips eventhough they are just some dollars.

[TwoCatSam]

OK, thanks!

[Turner]

First part of video did not process.  Twister, will make another.

Sam

link:://:.youtube.com/watch?v=7-YQflI6-V0&feature=player_detailpage#

How much did it cost you to get Sam Elliot to do the voice over?

[TwoCatSam]

Do I sound like him?  Evidently, I do.