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Surround boost tweak

Started by Master_of_pockets, Aug 23, 08:01 AM 2012

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Master_of_pockets

As Sam stated the surround seems to be a powerfull system...
But the way it was engineered  couldn t produce long run winnings(win more loss less)

I made a tweak on it and hopefully it is better now.
The tweak is on the progression.

Same bet selection  Red Odd 1st Doz 3d Col

1)When All bets loss +2 chips on all bets
2)When only 1 Ec win +1 chips on all bets

3)When 1 2/1 bet win leave Same amount of chips on all bets
4)When 1 Ec + 1 2/1 bets win leave Same amount of chips on all bets
5)When 2 Ecs win leave Same amount of chips on all bets

6)When 2 Ecs + 1 2/1 bet win then -2 chips on all bets
7)When 2 2/1 bets win then -1 chip on all bets
7)When ALL the bets win then -4 chips on all bets

At every new + reset all bets to 1 chips.

Ps. Important
If we are in a situation that the bets are pretty high and we won some spins and we are just -some chips in order to be in a new + then do not leave the same high amount of chips on the bets but reduce them more than the mechanical rules above using common sence.
This will save us from hitting a next bad fluctuation and having to add chips and reach a very bad high.

Suggested BR 200 chips
stop-loss and start with 1 chips on all bets -200 chips(at any stage that we lost -200 chips re are resetting)

Never agrue with silly people.They will drag you down to their own level and then beat you with experience.***Mark Twain***

TwoCatSam

Master

I'll test it out.  With real Euros!

Sam
If dogs don't go to heaven, when I die I want to go where dogs go.  ...Will Rogers

Master_of_pockets

every time u test a system that it isn t tested a lot please use only 0.1 chips
Never agrue with silly people.They will drag you down to their own level and then beat you with experience.***Mark Twain***

Master_of_pockets

I am trying to protect you.
I want you to laugh - chew - and spit and not cry - chew - and spit  ;D
Never agrue with silly people.They will drag you down to their own level and then beat you with experience.***Mark Twain***

TwoCatSam

MOP

Thanks for looking out for me.  I'm sort of an old hand at this gambling thingy.  I know what can happen.

I know a man who paid in excess of $20,000 for a bass boat.  Pulled it with a $20,000 truck.  Fish cost him $2,000 a pound!!

I'm good!

Sam
If dogs don't go to heaven, when I die I want to go where dogs go.  ...Will Rogers

Master_of_pockets

Forgot to post in the 1st post with the rules that :

2 2/1 + 1 Ec win then -3 chips on all bets.

Ok I just tested the system to see if I will lose 1 BR(200 chips) or if I will make 1 BR.
I won 200 chips in 239 spins.
The max down was something like -80 chips.

this means that in this particular sessions we would have won 200 chips with a BR of 80 chips.

Now Sam listen carefully.
In order to play always safe with it you need as I told above to use ur common sence.This meana that:

When we are close to make a new profit but the chips are high then reduce accordingly.
When we are having some losses in a row then in some spins there is no NEED to progress even more , because in this stage the bets are already high so with some nice wins we will be in a new profit without needing to progress more.....

So use the mechanical rules but sometimes you have to use ur own judjement according to the amount of bet chips+the down that you have in order to avoid big down falls

Here is the testing graph of my session

 
Never agrue with silly people.They will drag you down to their own level and then beat you with experience.***Mark Twain***

Master_of_pockets

It would be nice to have mechanical rules on this one and play relaxed like a robot but unfortunately by this way we will always be playing dangerously.
So we need to always be alert of the br balance and the how much the bets has gone
Never agrue with silly people.They will drag you down to their own level and then beat you with experience.***Mark Twain***

TwoCatSam

Quote from: Master_of_pockets on Aug 23, 10:43 AM 2012
Forgot to post in the 1st post with the rules that :

2 2/1 + 1 Ec win then -3 chips on all bets........Yep, I discovered that!

Ok I just tested the system to see if I will lose 1 BR(200 chips) or if I will make 1 BR.
I won 200 chips in 239 spins.
The max down was something like -80 chips.

this means that in this particular sessions we would have won 200 chips with a BR of 80 chips.

Now Sam listen carefully....I's all ears!!!
In order to play always safe with it you need as I told above to use your common sence.This meana that:

When we are close to make a new profit but the chips are high then reduce accordingly.....Known that for years, but thanks!
When we are having some losses in a row then in some spins there is no NEED to progress even more , because in this stage the bets are already high so with some nice wins we will be in a new profit without needing to progress more.....This is a form of my plateau betting. 

So use the mechanical rules but sometimes you have to use your own judjement according to the amount of bet chips+the down that you have in order to avoid big down falls...........YEP

Here is the testing graph of my session

 

Make 20.6 Euro using "The Three Musketeers".  Surround, Boffin's, 2 out of five repeaters.

Sam
If dogs don't go to heaven, when I die I want to go where dogs go.  ...Will Rogers

HP

Very promising system, but the bets are too high for me. So I tested it today using a little tweak. Max. 3 units, then back to one.
With a 200 BR I made 40 units so far.

jarabo002

With these modifications, does this system works or not? :-\
Uno de Badajoz que pasaba por aquí.

Master_of_pockets

If by "work" you mean winning more than losing in the long run then the answer is no.
Never agrue with silly people.They will drag you down to their own level and then beat you with experience.***Mark Twain***

jarabo002

What a pity! :-[


Too good to be true
Uno de Badajoz que pasaba por aquí.

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