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why is everyone still play roulette?

Started by Amazin, Aug 31, 06:13 PM 2012

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Master_of_pockets

Hahahhaha!  :D

If someone wants to make money from roulette using VB he must have these things:

1)A lot of money for BR and traveling.
2)A team of at least 3 very trustfull members(for recording data and camo play).
3)A lot of free time for all the members of the team for traveling/playing/scouting wheels.
4)Very strong  legs and back for standing close to the wheels for hours.
5)Mules patient.

It s not a joke and it has no glamour. It s like working in the coalmine.
Never agrue with silly people.They will drag you down to their own level and then beat you with experience.***Mark Twain***

Ralph

Vb know, they do not regard luck!   VB is as all other methods depended of luck.
They count "BR tg yt" and sometimes win. br tg yt" and they have to consult the dentist.

WOODOO, a lucky streak make theire skill, just luck. Using this, can make winnings, if the outcome will be as the VB wanted.

Hard, but a modern wheel will trough the vb toward the luck.

All is WOODOO  VB is WOODOO all METHODS is WOODO, but still cabn work, thats a random outcome.

I am a millionare due to luck, and will play more low to not give lady luck back most of it.
The best way to fail, is not to try!

Master_of_pockets

OMG I didn t know we had a millioner in our forum! :D
Never agrue with silly people.They will drag you down to their own level and then beat you with experience.***Mark Twain***

Turner

Quote from: Master_of_pockets on Sep 01, 12:18 PM 2012
OMG I didn t know we had a millioner in our forum! :D
I was good friends withJohn Rezeznik..goo goo dolls..in a chat room. He had a bob or 2 :wink:


ego


Well why do members here care if all systems lose in the long run - we all know they do.

But what about does who win two out of three sessions on regular basis.
What about does who win three out of four sessions on regular basis.
Maybe it also exist does who win four out of five sessions on regular basis.

Then they succeed with out having the holy grail and we all know the holy grail does not exist.

I believe that there is players who do just that.
They are does who understand that a valid Money Management Strategy is the "engine room" ...
One good MM strategy does not allow you to play with one big bankroll and aim for a small % that sooner or later will lose.
They have there own variance and hit ratio based upon cruel tools that does not allow a game with errors - being sloppy or fuzzy.

I am sure they exist  :xd:
Denial of gamblers fallacy is usually seen in people who has Roulette as last option for a way to wealth, debt covering and a independent lifestyle.  Next step is pretty ugly-
AP - It's not that it can't be done, but rather people don't really have a clue as to the level of fanaticism and outright obsession that it takes to be successful, let alone get to the level where you can take money out of the casinos on a regular basis. Out of 1,000 people that earnestly try, maybe only one will make it.

Robeenhuut

Quote from: ego on Sep 02, 08:54 AM 2012
Well why do members here care if all systems lose in the long run - we all know they do.

But what about does who win two out of three sessions on regular basis.
What about does who win three out of four sessions on regular basis.
Maybe it also exist does who win four out of five sessions on regular basis.

Then they succeed with out having the holy grail and we all know the holy grail does not exist.

I believe that there is players who do just that.
They are does who understand that a valid Money Management Strategy is the "engine room" ...
One good MM strategy does not allow you to play with one big bankroll and aim for a small % that sooner or later will lose.
They have there own variance and hit ratio based upon cruel tools that does not allow a game with errors - being sloppy or fuzzy.

I am sure they exist  :xd:

Yeah lots of players subscribe to the goal of winning 2 out of 3 sessions  or 3/4.  So lets play 1 session. If you win or lose play another one. Then play one more.  If you lose all 3 or 2 out of 3 then hope for the better result tomorrow.  Never try to win your money back the same day.  Why?
Tomorrow is it going to be a better set of numbers to bet on?  You have to get out of a bad streak and hope for a better streak tomorrow?  It just doesn't make any sense except that you limit your losses for a session and hope for a reversal of fortune tomorrow   ;D   If somebody makes a claim of winning 2 out 3 sessions in a single casino visit it always raises a red flag for me.  I just smell a Bs..
Matt

F_LAT_INO

You can always get me on  
ivica.boban@ri.t-com.hr

ego

Quote from: Robeenhuut on Sep 02, 09:28 AM 2012
Yeah lots of players subscribe to the goal of winning 2 out of 3 sessions  or 3/4.  So lets play 1 session. If you win or lose play another one. Then play one more.  If you lose all 3 or 2 out of 3 then hope for the better result tomorrow.  Never try to win your money back the same day.  Why?
Tomorrow is it going to be a better set of numbers to bet on?  You have to get out of a bad streak and hope for a better streak tomorrow?  It just doesn't make any sense except that you limit your losses for a session and hope for a reversal of fortune tomorrow   ;D   If somebody makes a claim of winning 2 out 3 sessions in a single casino visit it always raises a red flag for me.  I just smell a Bs..

Sure that could be a valid point.
But still i know at least one who try and succeed end up with a positive balance each month.
For how long i don't know and will not mention names.

Then i know a other one who play allot who say you can do just that - winning for months.
Then from the open you start get every session against you and make a big bite into your bankroll.
But still left with some winnings.

So i still believe that there exist does who succeed.
Denial of gamblers fallacy is usually seen in people who has Roulette as last option for a way to wealth, debt covering and a independent lifestyle.  Next step is pretty ugly-
AP - It's not that it can't be done, but rather people don't really have a clue as to the level of fanaticism and outright obsession that it takes to be successful, let alone get to the level where you can take money out of the casinos on a regular basis. Out of 1,000 people that earnestly try, maybe only one will make it.

ego

Quote from: F_LAT_INO on Sep 02, 09:36 AM 2012
Am saying this for years now.

What is it that you have been saying for many years - don't understand you point of view.
Denial of gamblers fallacy is usually seen in people who has Roulette as last option for a way to wealth, debt covering and a independent lifestyle.  Next step is pretty ugly-
AP - It's not that it can't be done, but rather people don't really have a clue as to the level of fanaticism and outright obsession that it takes to be successful, let alone get to the level where you can take money out of the casinos on a regular basis. Out of 1,000 people that earnestly try, maybe only one will make it.

Robeenhuut

Ego

Its nothing personal.  People do make money in roulette but they are usually seasoned players.
2 out of 3 guys are just bit more intelligent that  "i win all the sessions" guys. To me its just a system seller talk and nothing else. I don't have a method but with a proper MM and BR i make constant $$$  Bs.
But 2/3 is Holy Grail in disguise with of course a similar win goal and stop-loss... ;D
Matt

ego


Its fine - for me it has no effect as i don't use roulette systems.

But now i find a new approach when testing different ideas.
For each strategy or method there is strict MM rules.
That way i can see if a method can get a high strike ratio.

I made a topic about MM and GLC already did it before me.
My MM topic is at: link:://rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=10151.0

Feel free to drop a comment ...
Denial of gamblers fallacy is usually seen in people who has Roulette as last option for a way to wealth, debt covering and a independent lifestyle.  Next step is pretty ugly-
AP - It's not that it can't be done, but rather people don't really have a clue as to the level of fanaticism and outright obsession that it takes to be successful, let alone get to the level where you can take money out of the casinos on a regular basis. Out of 1,000 people that earnestly try, maybe only one will make it.

speed

No offense, but hit and run works only in the minds of some gamblers on this forum (JL,FLATINO,iggiv,Robeenhuut..), and a few beginners who believe these old gamblers without evidence.


speed

Master_of_pockets

"""Well why do members here care if all systems lose in the long run - we all know they do.

But what about does who win two out of three sessions on regular basis.
What about does who win three out of four sessions on regular basis.
Maybe it also exist does who win four out of five sessions on regular basis."""


ego it seems that u haven t understood that IF someone can win 2 of 3 or 3 of 4 or 4 of 5 sessions on a regular bases , THEN THIS ALSO MEANS THAT THEIR SYSTEM/SYSTEMS CAN WIN IN THE LONG RUN.

Winning in the long run simply means that you are winning more than you are losing.

Robeen and speed are right.
Never agrue with silly people.They will drag you down to their own level and then beat you with experience.***Mark Twain***

ego

Quote from: speed on Sep 02, 10:09 AM 2012
No offense, but hit and run works only in the minds of some gamblers on this forum (JL,F_LAT_INO,iggiv,Robeenhuut..), and a few beginners who believe these old gamblers without evidence.


speed

It easy to test ...

Pick one posted method that they post and apply a good MM with strict rules.
Then you get your own evidence.

The question is if you are lazy - why would they do that for you - its up to you to prove them wrong.
Denial of gamblers fallacy is usually seen in people who has Roulette as last option for a way to wealth, debt covering and a independent lifestyle.  Next step is pretty ugly-
AP - It's not that it can't be done, but rather people don't really have a clue as to the level of fanaticism and outright obsession that it takes to be successful, let alone get to the level where you can take money out of the casinos on a regular basis. Out of 1,000 people that earnestly try, maybe only one will make it.

Master_of_pockets

and when you hear from players that are winning for months or maybe even years this doesn't mean that in the next visit plays they will not give their winning away + the BR.

We have all seen systems that passed 10.000 spins with profit because the good fluctiation on the particilar spins helped their system to win.But we also all know that after those 10.000 spins the system tanked badly giving all the winnings back + the BR.

This is the same things that is happening with the real play...in let s say 100 visits the luck was on your side and won a great amount of money....but then as you continue to play the same thing with the 10.000 spins graph will happen in real play.after the 10.000 spins it will tank

And those who think that 10.000 spin it s a great amount of spins to win so they won t play more spins to lose is also a big fallacy that is coming from the luck of knowledge.
Because if they had tested the same system in an other set of 10.000 spins it is possible that the system won t be able to produce even +1 chip....because the bad fluctuation happened from the begining....
So in the end of the day the point is NOT how many spins a system can pass...because this is just LUCK based on the certain set of spins that the system was tested on....
The real deal is the system to be able to pass ANY given set of spins and be able to always make +1 from the previous high.
Then If the above is happening we are speaking about a system that can win more than it loses...in other words a long run winner and in other words the H.G.

I ll post this post in a new thread with the intention of trying help some ppl get out of this fallacy.
Never agrue with silly people.They will drag you down to their own level and then beat you with experience.***Mark Twain***

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