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Started by Ralph, Sep 11, 03:05 AM 2012

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Ralph

This is a modification of an older posted method.
This will suit a bankroll of 100 units most of the time.

The observations we do on an even chance, is we
will lose a bit more than half the bets in the long run.

We also know we use to have winning and losing streaks.
The losing streaks can sometimes be long, but they end.

If the method have a fraction higher bet on the winning
spins, they will be OK.

We never know before which spin will win.

We then do not care about every spin, we care about
winning and losing streaks. We want to come out with
at least one unit plus.

The winning and losing streaks can often be cut in
a few spins, we seldom lose or win 5 times in a row.

We place one units on an EC (which can be 3 lines as well
to get 1,5 Euro as bet in stead of 5 in some casinos).

We play 5 spins. we will be between -5 and + 5
after the play,If any plus we pocket and reset the bankroll
to the starting.

If minus we bet 2 units until break even, up to max 5 spins.
If we reach break even we start from one unit, but finish the
5 spins using one.

If we are back we calculate, if it is possible to break
even with one unit in two spins, then we use one.
If we can do it with 2 then we use 2, in all other
case we use 3 units.

We progress only one unit at the time.
In a RFH situation, we can stop at a level we
decide before, or if we want to faith the devil
and have a decent bankroll, we have a very good
chance to come out, it will take time.

I have never bust using this, but be
aware it's not 100% sure, but pretty
one of the best if safety goes first.

I use bet the last, as I found it works
best at BV, which use to be more streaky
than choppy.

I do not have a name of the method yet
FIVE would suit, but that is allready copyrighted. ;D

It is a slow grinder, aim for ten units
before a break.
The best way to fail, is not to try!

Ralph

Have done four sessions with 10 Euro target, they take about 20 minutes in average.

Max bet is still four Euro.
The best way to fail, is not to try!

Ralph

Done seven sessions and made 72 Euru/units.
One was harder, the bankroll min for six of them was 30 Euro, the last min was 260.
The best way to fail, is not to try!

TwoCatSam

*** the bankroll min for six of them was 30 Euro, the last min was 260.***

Ralph

When you say "bankroll min", are you meaning draw down?  As in you went down 260 units?

Basically your idea says, sooner or later, you will get a plus reading out of your five and that will bring you to profit or even.  Is that it?

I think we should call it CINCO DE RALPHO.

Now, dangit, that was TwoCat humor.  If I offended a Latino, get over it.  (Geez, the word "Latino" may be offensive!!  Really scared since that "Brit" fiasco.)

Sam
If dogs don't go to heaven, when I die I want to go where dogs go.  ...Will Rogers

Ralph

Yes it is the minimum you should had to not have to stop that session due to money.
I had 1000 in the bank.

It works well, and take you back from deeper holes, anyhow, you never know when its no way out.

The main problem I have seen, never not riding it out, but it can take time, long time hover around the loss and the break even.

It is important to use as small progression as possible, if you run into 10 loss in a row, this can
recover.  Losing and winning streaks comes.

The best way to fail, is not to try!

Ralph

Sam
You can follow the history and you will see it can take many spins, it goes between a smaller loss and break even, and at last goes plus. More then 70 spins to get 4 units.
The best way to fail, is not to try!

MuppetMan

This seems right up my alley Ralph. Going to try this puppy out.
Thanks  :thumbsup:

Ralph

Muppetman

Thanks!
You with a target for 2 units a session, this will work well. You can sit all night at the casino, playing every spin, and go home with your target. ;D
The best way to fail, is not to try!

MuppetMan




If minus we bet 2 units until break even, up to max 5 spins.
If we reach break even we start from one unit, but finish the
5 spins using one.

If we are back we calculate, if it is possible to break
even with one unit in two spins, then we use one.
If we can do it with 2 then we use 2, in all other
case we use 3 units.



So Ralph above it says if behind you use 2 units then if we break even we use the 1 unit to finish out the 5 spins.
So if 2 units down after the 5 spins we use 1 unit is that correct? If 3 units down we use 2 units and 5 we use 3 units? Is this correct? Is unit size just determined by how many units you are down and can recover in 2 spins.

Cheers

Ralph

Yes, but if we bet 2 and are back 7 we only bet 3. We increase just one, if we are in a losing streak
we keep the stakes down. If we bet 5 and have 4 to break even, after five bets, we go down to two, and try to get two wins to break even,then we go down to one,
The best way to fail, is not to try!

Ralph

Winning and losing streaks comes after each other. This play started normal hit rate, went to a long losing streak, and come back to a winning streak. Slow, just a few units won in nearly 100 spins, but at the same time shows a strength.
The fact I was using 0.01 chips, do not change anything, as you know it could be 1Euro as well, or ten.
This will work as long not the losing streak is extremely long and frequent.
The best way to fail, is not to try!

Ralph

This run had a long losing streak, or two. Took a while, but ended up in 10 plus. 7 highest stake. about 65 drawdown, which is low in so many losses after each other.
The best way to fail, is not to try!

IndianGuru

Hello Ralph:
thanks for this system.
Would you please show me how this works for the below sequence. The below sequence cleans me out  every time I play baccarat. Thanks in Advance.
R
B
R
R
B
R
R
B
R
R
B
R
R
B
R
R
B
A mad monkey in the jungle makes all the monkeys mad

Ralph

Quote from: IndianGuru on Sep 12, 07:29 PM 2012
Hello Ralph:
thanks for this system.
Would you please show me how this works for the below sequence. The below sequence cleans me out  every time I play baccarat. Thanks in Advance.
R
B
R
R
B
R
R
B
R
R
B
R
R
B
R
R
B

This kind of sequence will never go forever, but sometimes long.

If you bet red you will win 5 units, if black you will lose 8 units.
It is many more red than black, and it will take more spins to catch up.

So if you are on red its a winning streak, if on black a losing, they will in most cases be
changes between win and loss streaks.

Its not easy to win If the winning bets goes below 1/3 of the bets, and in a longer run of spins it
is extremely.

If I got this sequence every time I play baccarat, I would know which side to bet  ;)


R 1 W
B 1 L
R 1 W
R 1 W  1
B 1 L  0
R 1 W  1
R 1 W  2
B 1 L  1
R 1 W  2
R 1 W  3
B 1 L  2
R 1 W  3
R 1 W  4
B 1 L  3
R 1 W  4
R 1 W  5
B 1 L  4
R 1 W  5

R 1 L  -1
B 1 W   0
R 1 L  -1
R 1 L  -2
B 1 W  -1
R 1 L  -2
R 1 L  -3
B 1 W  -2
R 1 L  -3
R 1 L  -4
B 2 W  -2
R 1 L  -3
R 2 L  -5
B 2 W  -3
R 2 L  -5
R 3 L  -8
B 3 W  -5
R 3 L  -8

The bet selection  can change the outcome.
The best way to fail, is not to try!

IndianGuru

Ralph Thank you very much.
You are right,  I guess I can not stubborn like that with my BS.
A mad monkey in the jungle makes all the monkeys mad

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