The Great Kimo Li and the holy grail.

[Amazin]

lol, I take it we are all still wasting time on here then

[Robeenhuut]

@Ego,

How do you know ?!?

It's like they say, there is no perfect murder !!! Yes there is, all the one that never came up , or never where found .
So maybe you, me, all the others here haven't found it yet, others have and never told us 


Ray

Come up with innovative but not an easily understandable method. It should involve few strategies and not so firm rules. There will be always some people winning with it for a while like with other methods. Sell an additional info. People winning with it won't mind buying it hoping to win more. People losing with it will hope that an additional stuff will help them win. Its a perfect method     Or go to the other site where the other method will be revealed by July.

[ego]

this all depends i think. If u mean something that wins consistently all the time -- forget it. If u mean beating the wheel sometimes, staying well ahead, that's another story.

That is my point also, there will never exist a system that win consistently as random distribution will find it own way around any existing selection at some point.

This is wy i start to tell members who don't know or being naive, that first lesson to learn is that all system fail.
So if they want to play this game they have to learn how to manage there sessions, money and bankroll to try stay ahead during there overall game plan.

[Interstate89]

The story about roulette is the same like the story about the earth.

Everybody is saying the earth is flat like paper. Someday a guy comes up and tells the people that the earth is a ball.
The people are angry and shouting "it´s not possible!!".

Month or years later the people accept the fact that the earth is a ball.
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Here we have the same story about roulette.

The people shouting "the grail is not possible!!".

Someday there will be a person who shows the grail-method but the people are still angry.
"Give us one million spins!!" (of course you can wait for years before you have one million live dealer spins)
"It´s not possible!!"
Years later the people see that a grail is possible and accept the fact.

[Turner]

The story about roulette is the same like the story about the earth.

Everybody is saying the earth is flat like paper. Someday a guy comes up and tells the people that the earth is a ball.
The people are angry and shouting "it´s not possible!!".

Month or years later the people accept the fact that the earth is a ball.
----------
Here we have the same story about roulette.

The people shouting "the grail is not possible!!".

Someday there will be a person who shows the grail-method but the people are still angry.
"Give us one million spins!!" (of course you can wait for years before you have one million live dealer spins)
"It´s not possible!!"
Years later the people see that a grail is possible and accept the fact.

I don't think its similar to people thinking the earth is flat. The game of roulette is not beatable in the long run. its 100 years old. it time to realise the truth.
its a game. A game that you can win at if you play with a bit of commonsense.
Nothing consistantly wins for ever. Ask Mike Tyson! Ask Garry Kasparov.

I keep saying this over and over. Roulette is beatable. Casinos arnt.
To beat roulette just marty red until a win, you may have to bet 22Million to win 1 U at some point, but it is the holy grail. You can't bet 22 Million in a casino....so there will never be a holy grail to beat the casino.
And if there is, they will take roulette off.

[iggiv]

the difference between roulette and the earth is that about flat earth people thought many thousands years ago when they still were living in the caves. Even in the middle Ages they already knew about the Earth being a ball.
it does not take a lot of guessing, enough just to sail a little and u see it can't be flat.

now u got Wizard of Odds, and he is a professor of mathematics, and he dedicated his life to gambling research, and he knows quite a lot about it. u can find him in wikipedia. he will give 20k (against 2k) to anyone who found consistently winning method. Find his website. There was a guy who lost 2 k, but there was nobody who could win 20k.

it's plain impossible. but on the other hand there are some people managing to beat roulette consistently with their methods (win more than they lose). but they don't have  a Holy Grail, because it DOES NOT EXIST.

[sniper]

Roulette is beatable. Sorry to say that, but it's a fact.

I am not here to argue with anyone. I apologize if I said something against someones believe.


The answer is in BIAS WHEEL. I may sound like an outcast, but a fact is still a fact.


The truth is out there on the table and it's waiting for us to locate and benefit from it.


I am not going to answer any question regarding this matter.


I may sound like a snob or a freak but I am telling the truth from the bottom of my heart.


Don't waste time on mechanical method. It's not worth trying.


Regards and Best wishes

[Interstate89]

I think it´s wrong to explain the world with pure math or statistics.
Is it possible to explain the space or the life with pure math and stats?
Sometimes things happen and nobody knows whats going on. You can´t calculate every possible thing in our life.

Let´s take Orochis dublinbet videos. For example he bets 34 after the spins 27,7,27. Later the 34 hit with a nice profit. He does the same with betting 8 or 18. Both hit later with nice profit. He starts with 1700 credits and leaves with over 8000 credits. He takes special number-pictures and place his bets.

Now ask a math-guy why a specific line of numbers creates a specific number to bet. Is the math-guy able to explain the story with pure math and statistics?

Maybe Orochi doesn´t have the grail but i´m very impressed by his style of play.

[Kimo Li]

A professional roulette player is much like a professional boxer.  The roulette player's nemesis is random numbers. How does one conquer random numbers? The boxer acquires the fundamental skills necessary to compete, jabs, hooks, upper cut etc. and applies certain strategies, depending on the opponent. So too does the roulette player, the player must acquire many skills, not just the basics, things like wheel head number positions, ball movement recognition, trends, pattern recognition, money management, etc.

To defeat one's opponent, a boxer must possess an arsenal of skills. He must learn everything about the opponent's habits and tendencies. Is the boxer aggressive, passive aggressive counter puncher, or multifaceted?

Random numbers behave similarly, tendencies like RRR BB R BBB R, LHLH LLL HH L, OE OE OOO EE O. From the GPM point of view, 4 6 8 5 9 7 or 1 5 3 2 6 4 etc.

The key to winning is to possess the necessary skills of identifying and classifying random numbers and applying specific strategies that will have a favorable outcome.

Most of the time boxers will accumulate points per round to win a match. Many boxers will try and often fail. However, a special boxer, a natural, will come along and possess the necessary skills to achieve a knock out consistently.

Some people are not meant to be boxers.

Kimo Li 

[iggiv]

yes, that's right, Kimo.

i also compared roulette to box. I say that u better
punch a few times and get the hell out of there ASAP cause  it's very likely u won't stand for too long, the enemy is too strong and never tired. 

[iggiv]

it's not just the pure math or statistics. It's experience. What happens to the absolutely most of the players which get ahead in the game at some point? they lose, that's what happens. You always are encouraged by casinos to push your luck as far as possible they know too well it's not gonna last forever. Holy grail or magic formula is a myth, that's a fact.

I think it´s wrong to explain the world with pure math or statistics.
Is it possible to explain the space or the life with pure math and stats?
Sometimes things happen and nobody knows what's going on. You can´t calculate every possible thing in our life.

Let´s take Orochis dublinbet videos. For example he bets 34 after the spins 27,7,27. Later the 34 hit with a nice profit. He does the same with betting 8 or 18. Both hit later with nice profit. He starts with 1700 credits and leaves with over 8000 credits. He takes special number-pictures and place his bets.

Now ask a math-guy why a specific line of numbers creates a specific number to bet. Is the math-guy able to explain the story with pure math and statistics?

Maybe Orochi doesn´t have the grail but i´m very impressed by his style of play.

[Turner]

A professional roulette player is much like a professional boxer.  The roulette player's nemesis is random numbers. How does one conquer random numbers? The boxer acquires the fundamental skills necessary to compete, jabs, hooks, upper cut etc. and applies certain strategies, depending on the opponent. So too does the roulette player, the player must acquire many skills, not just the basics, things like wheel head number positions, ball movement recognition, trends, pattern recognition, money management, etc.

To defeat one's opponent, a boxer must possess an arsenal of skills. He must learn everything about the opponent's habits and tendencies. Is the boxer aggressive, passive aggressive counter puncher, or multifaceted?

Random numbers behave similarly, tendencies like RRR BB R BBB R, LHLH LLL HH L, OE OE OOO EE O. From the GPM point of view, 4 6 8 5 9 7 or 1 5 3 2 6 4 etc.

The key to winning is to possess the necessary skills of identifying and classifying random numbers and applying specific strategies that will have a favorable outcome.

Most of the time boxers will accumulate points per round to win a match. Many boxers will try and often fail. However, a special boxer, a natural, will come along and possess the necessary skills to achieve a knock out consistently.

Some people are not meant to be boxers.

Kimo Li

No boxer ever won consistantly. its a silly analogy. Ali....beat by Leon Spinx, Tyson beat by Douglas. They are the top rate of Boxing and they lost eventually. Your argument suits people who dont think there is a Grail.

Turner

[Kimo Li]

Turner,

"Silly" This type of language evokes personal attacks.

Your assessment of the boxer analogy in terms of consistency perhaps is misguided. The point in the analogy is to develop skills and strategies which produce an advantage.  Loss is expected, as well as aging minds and bodies.

As far as the Holy Grail, it's silly to think it exist, especially when you do not have it.

Kimo Li



Kimo Li

[iggiv]

it's not a silly analogy at all, it is a very good analogy. Roulette is a very formidable adversary. And usually You can't last long if u keep playing for too long time. That's very much like on a ring. The difference is that your adversary is never tired and keeps looking for your weak spots. Sooner or later he will get u if u keep being too stubborn. Give him a few good punches and get the hell out of there.

[ugly bob]

No boxer ever won consistantly. its a silly analogy.

Ali won 56 out of 61 fights! What's NOT consistent about that?