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Juggler 3

Started by ignatus, Jan 04, 09:13 PM 2013

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ignatus

Juggler 3

This is a repeter strategy with progressive betting. What's great about it (Compared to Juggler 1 & 2) that it catches repeters before they happen.

* The basic bet is 5 last numbers.

* After 5 numbers bet (for 1 spin) a progressive bet on each new number hit up to 9 numbers.

* After 9 number is bet, do one cycle (3 spins) then return to basic bet (This is one complete session).

* If hit immediatly return to basic bet.


OK, I haven't tried this flatbetting yet. I have played it live, and it works very well.

For those who prefer flatbetting, skip the progression part:

The progression idea

1 unit for basic bet, until 9 numbers are bet. Then +2 bet (and do 3 spins). If no hit, progression continue until next session: Return to basic bet, but +3 unit bet. When reaching 9 numbers +5 unit bet.

If hit during the second session (or beyond) return to basic bet with +2 unit bet. Progression Ends when hit 2 sessions in a row.

For 3 ½ sessions progression would look like this (playing with 0.5 unit bets):

0.5, 1.5(+2), 3(+3), 5.5(+5), 8.5(+6) 12.5(+8), 17(+9), Table limit would be reached here on DublinBet (10 units for single numbers... playing with 0.5 chips) .... That's a 29 spin progression

This may be a very agressive negative progression? I consider +3 bet when 9 units are bet (That can be applied when necessary). I haven't played 2 sessions (8+8=16 spins) without 1 hit , So I think you should be OK with this progression. (29 spins before reaching table limit)

Any testing results or other opinions and ideas of Juggler 3 are welcome!  :)

Cheers
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weddings

What happened to your last line ultimate system?
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ignatus

Quote from: weddings on Jan 07, 12:01 PM 2013
What happened to your last line ultimate system?

I lost 1000 units playing live,  It was no idea continue that system.
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superman

QuoteQuote from: weddings on Today at 07:01:12 AM
What happened to your last line ultimate system?
 
I lost 1000 units playing live,  It was no idea continue that system. 

That's a shame, weren't you told it would collapse?
There's only one way forward, follow random, don't fight with it!

Ignore a thread/topic that mentions 'stop loss', 'virtual loss' and also when a list is provided of a progression, mechanical does NOT work!

buffalowizard

He doesn't listen though does he.

Ever

Smoczoor

Ignatus is still learning... Best teacher? Life :)

rouletteKEY

As Superman and BuffaloWizard stated...this will probably fall on deaf ears...

Or... you can try scolding me for "complaining" again as Superman and I tried to help you with the newly vanished "ULTIMATE" sytem...before you or others lost your bank chasing a progression...but here it goes

This is just my experience so test this for yourself and don't kill the friggin messenger

I play the last four numbers (no more than four or your staging will get outta control..as you've seen progressions spiral wildly outta control  >:D)

I use a virtual hit as a trigger and then play about 7 spins (each wheel that I have data on has a little different tendencies...but let's call it 7 for this generic conversation) of the last four numbers spun.  You will find that this can sleep for a long time and generally in my experience if it's gonna hit...they come in waves and clusters...just like everything else in roulette.  So get a hit and play up to the next 7 spins.  If you don't get a win...stop and wait for the next now virtual hit...don't chase this forever.  When you start back up increase your bet a unit (go from one unit per number to 2 units per number)...7 spins.  If you win...great...especially if you win early.  Your bank will dictate how high you go on the step-up and whether you start at the basement again after a win or drop back a unit or two.

Here is a cluster from actual spins yesterday on a real wheel...played with real money.  These are skips...9,3,2,6,35,1,6,8,0,4,2,4,4,0 end of session   So I had 3 losing runs where I hit a stop loss...but didn't give it all back on the 35 skip run.

Another cluster from last night...same casino...different wheel.  Skips 16,7,4,18,9,0,1,2,15.  Which translates into  StopLoss, StopLoss the spin before the hit, small win, StopLoss, StopLoss, Nice Win, Nice Win, Nice Win, StopLoss.

That's how I play it guys...hope any of my "complaining" here helps in some way Ignatus

ignatus

That's a great system. with stoploss, mild progression, lesser numbers and waiting for virtual win.

Thanks rouletteKEY  :)
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agesta

Quote from: rouletteKEY on Jan 08, 01:03 PM 2013
As Superman and BuffaloWizard stated...this will probably fall on deaf ears...

Or... you can try scolding me for "complaining" again as Superman and I tried to help you with the newly vanished "ULTIMATE" sytem...before you or others lost your bank chasing a progression...but here it goes

This is just my experience so test this for yourself and don't kill the friggin messenger

I play the last four numbers (no more than four or your staging will get outta control..as you've seen progressions spiral wildly outta control  >:D)

I use a virtual hit as a trigger and then play about 7 spins (each wheel that I have data on has a little different tendencies...but let's call it 7 for this generic conversation) of the last four numbers spun.  You will find that this can sleep for a long time and generally in my experience if it's gonna hit...they come in waves and clusters...just like everything else in roulette.  So get a hit and play up to the next 7 spins.  If you don't get a win...stop and wait for the next now virtual hit...don't chase this forever.  When you start back up increase your bet a unit (go from one unit per number to 2 units per number)...7 spins.  If you win...great...especially if you win early.  Your bank will dictate how high you go on the step-up and whether you start at the basement again after a win or drop back a unit or two.

Here is a cluster from actual spins yesterday on a real wheel...played with real money.  These are skips...9,3,2,6,35,1,6,8,0,4,2,4,4,0 end of session   So I had 3 losing runs where I hit a stop-loss...but didn't give it all back on the 35 skip run.

Another cluster from last night...same casino...different wheel.  Skips 16,7,4,18,9,0,1,2,15.  Which translates into  StopLoss, StopLoss the spin before the hit, small win, StopLoss, StopLoss, Nice Win, Nice Win, Nice Win, StopLoss.

That's how I play it guys...hope any of my "complaining" here helps in some way Ignatus
Hallo!
Can you please tell that you meen with virtual win,do you wait for a number to repeat before you bet?
And that do you mean when you say skips?
I am real curios about this, please help me?
Agesta

ignatus

stoploss: if no hit for 7 spins, stop betting and Wait for a virtual win (that is a number to repeat without betting) yes

I will try this  :)
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rouletteKEY

Quote from: agesta on Jan 08, 01:31 PM 2013
Hallo!
Can you please tell that you meen with virtual win,do you wait for a number to repeat before you bet?
And that do you mean when you say skips?
I am real curios about this, please help me?
Agesta
You sit down at the table...wait for what would have been a winning bet to hit before playing...such as
20,1,2,26,23,12,0,36,2,3,27,15,16,27 (the 27 triggers you to begin play because that would have won the bet...because if you had been laying money...you would have bet on 3,27,15 and 16 when the second 27 dropped)

Skips...36,8,4,9,36 trigger, 6, 31, 20, 31...so the skips are the bets made between when you start betting (the 36 triggered this line of bets) and the win...the second 31...so this is 3 skips as it hits on the 4th bet placed.

rouletteKEY

Quote from: ignatus on Jan 08, 01:40 PM 2013
stoploss: if no hit for 7 spins, stop betting and Wait for a virtual win (that is a number to repeat without betting) yes

I will try this  :)
Each wheel may be different...test, test, test

Check the average and means for the hit on the wheels you're looking to play then back-engineer your stop-loss based on your wheel...most for me seem to fall around 7 as a playable number that's why I used it.

In the end we all have a fraction of a fraction of all the real spin history on any given wheel so it's all speculation...it is after all gambling...but you have to start somewhere.  It doesn't always win...but at least it always gives you a seemingly better chance.  At least if I lose I can tell myself I did my due diligence and I didn't just randomly throw away away the money...I lost it with a purpose ;)

agesta

Quote from: rouletteKEY on Jan 08, 01:40 PM 2013
You sit down at the table...wait for what would have been a winning bet to hit before playing...such as
20,1,2,26,23,12,0,36,2,3,27,15,16,27 (the 27 triggers you to begin play because that would have won the bet...because if you had been laying money...you would have bet on 3,27,15 and 16 when the second 27 dropped)

Skips...36,8,4,9,36 trigger, 6, 31, 20, 31...so the skips are the bets made between when you start betting (the 36 triggered this line of bets) and the win...the second 31...so this is 3 skips as it hits on the 4th bet placed.
Ok, thanks a lot, now i think i understand , i will give this a good try!!! :)

agesta

Quote from: rouletteKEY on Jan 08, 01:40 PM 2013
You sit down at the table...wait for what would have been a winning bet to hit before playing...such as
20,1,2,26,23,12,0,36,2,3,27,15,16,27 (the 27 triggers you to begin play because that would have won the bet...because if you had been laying money...you would have bet on 3,27,15 and 16 when the second 27 dropped)

Skips...36,8,4,9,36 trigger, 6, 31, 20, 31...so the skips are the bets made between when you start betting (the 36 triggered this line of bets) and the win...the second 31...so this is 3 skips as it hits on the 4th bet placed.
Hallo!
I have played this system live with eurocents and i made 6 euros in 12 spins, easy to play and very good hitrate so far.
Thanks a lot!! :thumbsup:

rouletteKEY

Quote from: agesta on Jan 10, 07:48 AM 2013
Hallo!
I have played this system live with eurocents and i made 6 euros in 12 spins, easy to play and very good hitrate so far.
Thanks a lot!! :thumbsup:

Glad it worked out well for your first test...like all methods...it doesn't always work out that way....1000's of spins on any given wheel in testing so you know your trigger points before laying any real money and you as a player know what to expect (if testing shows it can lose 12 straight attacks and then hits a couple wins in the next few...you need to know and be prepared for that before playing with real money)...I guess playing cents you could test live

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