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Started by ignatus, Jan 13, 09:35 PM 2013

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ignatus

I doublechecked the tracker. All numbers are correct.
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ignatus

This was one continuous Live-Session i played just now at DublinBet. 30/70 wins.

That's a 42.8% winrate  :ooh:

WLLLWLLWLLWLLLLLLLLWWLWWWWWWLLWLWLLWLLLWLWLWWLLWWLLWWWLWWLWLWLLLLLLLWLLW

I try to figure out the best way of playing this. One option is continuous play using progression.

Another option is wait for 2 losses before placing a bet because one pattern I see here is the WLLWLLW-pattern

* When 3 losses in a row no bet. Wait for virtual win. (This is to avoid LLLLL-pattern)

* Play until lose, then after 2 losses in a row, start a double attack of two bets. (Then Stop)


Other ideas are welcome!

Cheers


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Smoczoor

QuoteThat's a 42.8% winrate

Good Job!!

I like idea play after two LL if Win continue bet if L wait for first W.
Today i don't make any tests because i was fighting with RX and bugs in this program. At the end with my patience and clear mind i avoided worst moments and RX works again properly so i think tomorrow i will bring some charts and thoughts.

Greetings

ignatus

Alright :)

I look forward to your testing!  ;D

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Kingspin

I tried it on smart live fun chips with a 1000 bank , made £300 profit. Where did my other post dissapear to ? 
You cant always loose , but when you do loose you will win it all back.

ignatus

Quote from: Kingspin on Jan 15, 05:57 PM 2013
I tried it on smart live fun chips with a 1000 bank , made £300 profit. Where did my other post disappear to ?

Great!  :)

I haven't seen your other post, I can't delete any posts, they removed that function!

Anyway, If you got Roulette Xtreme you can make some charts of your live play? Would be nice.

I haven't got RX, the trial has expired! Otherwise I would make charts too!
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Kingspin

How many Ls have you seen in a continuos line , i got  8 -  LLLLLLLL.
You cant always loose , but when you do loose you will win it all back.

ignatus

Quote from: Kingspin on Jan 15, 06:06 PM 2013
How many Ls have you seen in a continuos line , i got  8 -  LLLLLLLL.

Same for me, 8
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ignatus

Another live-session at DublinBet. Winrate 24/72 = 33% That's pretty close to my statistics

WWLWLLWLLLWLLWLLWLWLLWLLLLLLLLWLLLLWWLLLWLLLLWLWLLWLWWLWWLLLLLWLLWWLLLLW

Still try to figure out the W/L pattern here.

One thing for sure; More than two wins in a row is very rare So, expect loss after 2 wins in a row.

WLLWLLW pattern is reccuring here also. A good idea wait for 2 losses before bet. Then start progression. If loss at first attack after 2 losses wait for virtual win. OR else continue progression after 2 losses, (if it can cover up for 8 losses in a row that is.) That can happen. I use the +1 progression. You never know when the LLLLLL-pattern will come.
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Azim

Quote from: Smoczoor on Jan 15, 05:44 PM 2013
Good Job!!

I like idea play after two LL if Win continue bet if L wait for first W.
Today i don't make any tests because i was fighting with RX and bugs in this program. At the end with my patience and clear mind i avoided worst moments and RX works again properly so i think tomorrow i will bring some charts and thoughts.

Greetings


What was wrong with the program?
With right tools and good money management, any gambling activity can produce a steady income.

Mattias

Hi,

I can see that you are really committed. Don't want to be negative but is not the outcome of the order of the probability, if you bet on 12 numbers which correspond to roughly 33% and if you do not have enough statistics, the confidence interval will be rater wide?

Or could it be working due to the effect of variance of a live table is not based on "true" randomness - it's a human standing there trying to act like random?

I know that Roulette has a negative expected value - I play for fun!

ignatus

Quote from: Mattias on Jan 16, 04:07 AM 2013
Hi,

I can see that you are really committed. Don't want to be negative but is not the outcome of the order of the probability, if you bet on 12 numbers which correspond to roughly 33% and if you do not have enough statistics, the confidence interval will be rater wide?

Or could it be working due to the effect of variance of a live table is not based on "true" randomness - it's a human standing there trying to act like random?

Well, I don't think that's true. I don't think betting 12 random number will get the same result. Furthermore, it's not 12 number bet, It's less. it's 8, 10, and 12 numbers. (I've included all possible splits for the different bets.)

What I'm trying to do here, what I've done IS to find the most common movement on the roulettewheel. Believe it or not?

Argument seems pointless. It's not just "random luck" this is a method proven by statistics, and facts. It's not a method based on hot/cold numbers. This is a different approach

Try it playing it yourself, and you'll see?

One thing for sure: you never get less than 30% hitrate. It's somewhere between 30-45% hitrate. So, using progression and stoploss etc you can be pretty safe. It matters HOW it's played
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ewarwoowar

Hello ignatus, I'm late to the party here and trying to grasp what you're doing.
Are you dividing the lines up in to wheel order and then saying that the next line will be two lines away in either direction on the next spin?
Thanks for all your work on this.

Cheers.
in faecorum semper solum profundum variat

ignatus

Quote from: ewarwoowar on Jan 16, 07:33 AM 2013
Hello ignatus, I'm late to the party here and trying to grasp what you're doing.
Are you dividing the lines up in to wheel order and then saying that the next line will be two lines away in either direction on the next spin?
Thanks for all your work on this.

Cheers.

This is how it works:

In the picture doublestreets 1,2,3,4,5,6: If it hits doublestreet 3 = 1 & 5 is bet. Reverse calculation is used (the wheel is round and this is correct) If doublestreet 2 hits = 6 & 4 is bet. and so on. Zero is included in (1)

This strategy is based on this particular movement of the live-wheel proven to be the most common movement


So the betting groups are:


1 hit = 3 & 5 is bet
2 hit = 6 & 4 is bet
3 hit = 1 & 5 is bet
4 hit = 2 & 6 is bet
5 hit = 3 & 1 is bet
6 hit = 4 & 2 is bet
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ewarwoowar

Thank you for your reply and your explanation.
So, you're taking each spin independently? Or keeping with 2 and 4 if 6 hits, no matter what hits next?

Cheers.
in faecorum semper solum profundum variat

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