DNA OF ROULETTE SYSTEM: Your opinions, please

[esoito]

The last time I tried to upload a file to this site it failed -- twice.  

So here's a SAFE link to get DNA Of Roulette:  link:://:.sendspace.com/file/zqs0jy

(The link expires in a few days so don't wait too long.)

I look forward to members' opinions.

The author says he intends producing software for the method.

But three unanswered emails to him suggest to me that perhaps one of our forum programmers might like to produce something for us.

It will certainly make testing much easier.

Warnings:  

If English IS NOT your first language you might find reading this PDF quite difficult.

If English IS your first language you will find this PDF quite challenging in places!

[esoito]

Additional Warning:

When you arrive on the page scroll down to find the DOWNLOAD button

Avoid clicking other things 'cos they want to display adverts to you!

[Sorry about that, but not sure how else to get the file to you at the moment]

[Bayes]

Thanks esoito. As you say, not an easy read in places, but at least the author gives his email address.

[A3on]

I really have to learn how to code.
There is a lot of request for coding, I think it would be very helpful for the forum if we could get some more programmers.

I will do my best to be able to help in the future 

[GLC]

The last time I tried to upload a file to this site it failed -- twice.  

So here's a SAFE link to get DNA Of Roulette:  link:://:.sendspace.com/file/zqs0jy

(The link expires in a few days so don't wait too long.)

I look forward to members' opinions.

The author says he intends producing software for the method.

But three unanswered emails to him suggest to me that perhaps one of our forum programmers might like to produce something for us.

It will certainly make testing much easier.

Warnings:  

If English IS NOT your first language you might find reading this PDF quite difficult.

If English IS your first language you will find this PDF quite challenging in places!

Thanks for the link.

I just read through it rather quickly.  It does sound interesting, and like you said, a little difficult to comprehend. 

Will take some real study to fully understand what he's trying to tell us.

Maybe we can get a group of us to put our heads together and see if we can crack this egg.  We'll find out if it's full of gold or just rotten egg.

Cheers,

George

[GLC]

I've read through the document.

I understand the basic idea for the bets.

There are a few calculations, switching from 1 style of bet selection to another, entry values, etc... that is a little confusing.

This will take a few readings and then some testing to get a reasonable handle on it.

I don't understand all the math in the intro, but I don't see why it's necessary to understand to be able to play the system.

This is going to take a while.

Is anybody else interested?  Or is there not enough evidence that this is a possible winning system to warrant the effort? 

This is where I am.  Not thoroughly convinced but willing to at least devote some time to it.  If nothing else, it'll present a different way of looking at roulette strategies.

G

[dennisbelle]

This looks interesting.  I don't understand how the EV is being calculated.  Seems like there is an error.  Also look at table 9 spin 6 how did he get a +5 under "Net Spin Surplus"?

[GLC]

This looks interesting.  I don't understand how the EV is being calculated.  Seems like there is an error.  Also look at table 9 spin 6 how did he get a +5 under "Net Spin Surplus"?

DB,

I think, from the footnote, that he's calculating how he would have done had he actually bet the dozens and columns instead of betting on the zero for those 2 spins.  That's why he has them shown in red.  Best guess only.

For those of you who haven't taken the time to read this pdf, and just to give you a snippit of what he's proprosing, here's how he decides what to bet.

Observe 3 spins.  Record + and - for both the dozens and the columns.  If a doz or col repeats, that's a +, if there's a change that's a -.  Of course there will be more -s the +s.

Observe the third spin.  If it is a minus, go back 2 spins and this determines what you bet.  If it's a - the you bet 1 units on both dozens other than the dozen that spun last.  If it's a + then you bet 2 units for the last dozen to repeat.

He calls it P1AM2A = Plus look 1 Above Minus look 2 Above 

Do the same thing for the columns.

If a zero shows you bet 1 unit on it for the next 2 spins.  No bets on the table other than the 1 unit on the zeros..

That's all for now.

Cheers,

G           

[dennisbelle]

GLC,
   Thanks I believe you are right, I didn't see that in the first read.   My other question is looking at both tables 8 & 9 under the heading "Net Spin Surplus", when I add the numbers in this column and compare to the total in the "Entry Check column",  the sums match some times (not always) but the grand total at the bottom is correct.  I am not clear why all the sums don't match?
Dennis

[GLC]

GLC,
   Thanks I believe you are right, I didn't see that in the first read.   My other question is looking at both tables 8 & 9 under the heading "Net Spin Surplus", when I add the numbers in this column and compare to the total in the "Entry Check column",  the sums match some times (not always) but the grand total at the bottom is correct.  I am not clear why all the sums don't match?
Dennis

DB,

The Entry Check column is the sum of only the last 5 Net Spin Surplus, not the total of all the past spin surpluses.

G

[Bayes]

He says here (scroll down to the end of the page to read the comments) that he's developing software for the system. That comment was posted in May, but I couldn't see any reference to any software on his website.

My only other comment is that he refers to the "law of the third" as an "inexplicable phenomenon", but there's nothing inexplicable about it, it's just a consequence of the fact that as more unique numbers are hit, then the chance to hit a number which has already hit increases. It strikes me as odd for someone who is supposedly writing a book about "Strategy and Decision Optimization Under Conditions of Uncertainty" to be so ignorant regarding basic probability. But anyway, I will email the author to enquire about the software.

[dennisbelle]

"The Entry Check column is the sum of only the last 5 Net Spin Surplus, not the total of all the past spin surpluses"  Thanks again GLC that clears up my confusion. 
Dennis

[esoito]

@ Bayes:  "But anyway, I will email the author to enquire about the software."

Good luck with that!!!

I've emailed him THREE times about that with no reply ever received. 

Hopefully you'll be more successful than I.

If you are, please advise his reply.

[esoito]

bump....

I know it's a challenging read but please can we have some more opinions?

[Bayes]

I had a reply from the author:

I was rather busy with my academic work and was unable to go to the Casino for a few weeks. However, I randomly accessed the London based Smartlive Casino 30 times and observed conformity with a reasonable return. Now the Smartlive Casino does not allow me to play on the freeplay mode, which implies that they know the system is working. As I sign on from my home computer, they deny the access. So, I only observe and make computations.

The software product will take a little time.

and:

From the comments posted to the discussion forum, I observe that the members are using an older version of my book. The further simplified and the latest 5th edition is downloadable from my website :.neworiginalthinking.com. There is no wagering on zero on the latest version and there is a inverse recovery strategy in regard to decision escalations.

Also, some members have commented on the law of the third. What I have found is that it is driven by a linear equation and it is a generic formula. For example, when X = 37 it is roulette. When X = 21 it is relevant to the Craps table. Nobody upto now has derived the mathematical equation and I am the first person who has done it.

Once you master the coding, it takes only a few seconds. The most important thing is remembering the table layout.

Please post a comment on behalf of me for the members to download the latest edition and also for the forum administrators to make the latest version available to the members.

I haven't had time to test or code this yet, still playing catch-up.