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STANDARD DEVIATION BEATING EUROPEAN ROULETTE WHEELS???

Started by cubanopro, Sep 13, 03:14 PM 2010

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F_LAT_INO

Quote from: buffalowizard on Sep 15, 01:55 PM 2010
F LAT INO,

I like the look of your progression there.

If you lose the 3 bets, do you start over from scratch with the same staking? Thanks

BW
With the same stakings,and it recovers quickly after such lose.
--I suppose could be rised in cycles of 5 spins---2,3,4/3,4,5 etc......but first this.
You can always get me on  
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GLC

I've been testing a different progression.

Performing very well.

1-1-2.  If lose all three

2-2-3.  If lose all three

3-3-4.  If lose all three

4-4-5.  Etc...

If win and you have reached even or a new high, start over at 1-1-2.

If win and you are still down, drop back 1 level and keep going with progression until even or ahead.

For those who are really conservative, it works also with 1-1-1; 2-2-2; 3-3-3; etc...

LOL,

George
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

Twisteruk

George

thanks for the Progression


what's U're opinion on the 5 number streak ?

When you win, do you wait for the 5 numbers to finish or do you start counting from the previous

Example

123 (W on 3) bet 1 due to 2 3 showing ?


Cheers  :thumbsup:


EDIT: Also what's the score with regard to a Dozen sleepin ? IE after 5 spins, and we dont win do we start over for the missing dozen or wait for it to hit and then start ?

sorry if that's been covered  :-[  I have re read but cudnt see it
Its Set In Stone =)

F_LAT_INO

Yes George,
It could work in many staking ways,
and many different 12 number/instead of clasic dozens/
but we should first find out Cubanos idea of 5 cycle rule,
does it works or not.So far with my testings everything
is doing well.We'l see.
You can always get me on  
ivica.boban@ri.t-com.hr

GLC

Quote from: F_LAT_INO on Sep 15, 02:45 PM 2010
Yes George,
It could work in many staking ways,
and many different 12 number/instead of clasic dozens/
but we should first find out Cubanos idea of 5 cycle rule,
does it works or not.So far with my testings everything
is doing well.We'l see.

FLATINO, Twisteruk

I agree that keeping everything in groups of 5 tends to work a little better.  It definitely keeps the drawdowns much less, from my testing anyway.  And, I seem to be missing a lot of losing runs and zeros that I would for sure hit betting every bet.

G
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

Twisteruk

Thanks George  :thumbsup:


And about the sleepers ?


Do we stop and wait for it to hit or carry on as before ?

Example

12222 STOP or Continue 12121 etc etc  until 3 arrives ?



Cheers  :thumbsup:
Its Set In Stone =)

F_LAT_INO

Quote from: Twisteruk on Sep 15, 03:36 PM 2010
Thanks George  :thumbsup:


And about the sleepers ?


Do we stop and wait for it to hit or carry on as before ?

Example

12222 STOP or Continue 12121 etc etc  until 3 arrives ?



Cheers  :thumbsup:
Always a new cycle of 5.
You can always get me on  
ivica.boban@ri.t-com.hr

GLC

Here is a session using 1-2-3 progression.

Spin   Bet   W/L   Total
1
2  Two different Dozens so start betting
1   1   L   -1
2   2   L   -3
1   3   L   -6  No win so.  End of 5 spin cycle.

3
3
3
This is a question.  Do we use the first 3 or can we use the 4th 3?  If we use the 1st 3, the 1 ends the 5 unit sequence without a bet.  I will use the 4th 3 for this test.

1  Two different doz so start betting
1   2   L   -8
1   4   L   -12
1   6   L   -18  Another 5 cycle without a win.

1
3  Two different dozens so start betting.
2   3   W   -12
2
3  This ends another 5 cycle.

1  The same question.  Do I start the next 5 cycle with this 1 or    can I wait until the 2nd 1?
1
3
2
2

I'm going to stop this post to get an answer to my question.

Even though this started out losing, it comes back nicely for a good win.

George
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

cubanopro

Quote from: ScoobyDoo on Sep 15, 10:59 AM 2010
Hi Guys,
Love this thread. I have tested it a bit and WOW! What a profit maker! I plan to continue to test this baby. Hopefully someone will be willing to code this one...I think it will really be worth it.

@Esoito...I think what he meant was he has a 68% chance of winning on the first bet...a 95% chance of winning on his second bet and a 99.7% of winning on the third bet.

Scooby Doo

Hi scoobydoo! I`m glad to hear that it is a profit maker! Now just to clarify... the percentages are not related to the bets at all. Those percentages represent the different levels of Standard deviation. Like I explained in my very first post, standard deviation is simply a measure of how much variation there is from an average or a mean.. Therefore it is expected for a dozen to fall 1.62 times every 5 spins but we all know that it won't happen. There is always a variance or a deviation if you prefer from the mean and that is what the SD is all about. Giving a value to that deviation.

68% = It's what the first level represents
95% = It's what the second level represents
99.7% = It's what the third level represents

I hope you got my point! I also wanted to mention that if you decide to continue testing my system I don't encourage using RNG because that is pure randomness and it is not backed by the law of STANDARD DEVIATION.
Cubano

cubanopro

Quote from: F_LAT_INO on Sep 15, 11:19 AM 2010
--I'm testing this all day/manually thought,but goes quick of its simplicity/
and so far 8000 spins/constant positive results.
--Suggest;

--1,2,3.progression after 1st.trigger
---- 1,2,progression-4th. and 5th. bet
-------1,--5th. bet.

--Any comments?????

Hi! May we know from where are you taking these spins?? I mean I am very happy to hear you're having good results but if you are taking there spins from a RNG then it is completely useless... Also I think I can't say this enough but the only way to really prove this is by coding the system and trying for thousands of spins..
Cubano

F_LAT_INO

Quote from: cubanopro on Sep 15, 04:41 PM 2010
Hi! May we know from where are you taking these spins?? I mean I am very happy to hear you're having good results but if you are taking there spins from a RNG then it is completely useless... Also I think I can't say this enough but the only way to really prove this is by coding the system and trying for thousands of spins..


--These are all my own past played spins.
RNG-???NEVER-EVER,ONLY LIVE LAND CASINOS.
You can always get me on  
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cubanopro

Quote from: Twisteruk on Sep 15, 03:36 PM 2010
And about the sleepers ?

Do we stop and wait for it to hit or carry on as before ?

Example

12222 STOP or Continue 12121 etc etc  until 3 arrives ?

Hi Twisteruk! I never wait for a sleeper to hit before starting to bet again.. I always continue with my original plan that says every 5 spins each dozen will hit between 1 and 3 times 68% of the time. Besides waiting for a sleeper to hit doesn't mean that there won't be another one the second we start betting...
Cubano

Blood Angel

Hi cubanopro

This guy was very friendly and was offering his coding skills for free.
Why not leave a post or a message and ask for his help  to code this?

link:://rouletteforum.cc/coding-for-roulette/offering-my-coding-services-for-free/msg10578/#msg10578

Twisteruk

Quote from: cubanopro on Sep 15, 04:50 PM 2010
Hi Twisteruk! I never wait for a sleeper to hit before starting to bet again.. I always continue with my original plan that says every 5 spins each dozen will hit between 1 and 3 times 68% of the time. Besides waiting for a sleeper to hit doesn't mean that there won't be another one the second we start betting...



Yes very true, thanks for the response  :thumbsup:

I'm currently playing it with Dozens and Columns at the same time

If a Zero hits, while NOT betting, should I start my 5 count over again ?


Example 1210 Ignore those numbers and start over

Is this correct ?
Its Set In Stone =)

cubanopro

Quote from: GLC on Sep 15, 04:31 PM 2010
Here is a session using 1-2-3 progression.

Spin   Bet   W/L   Total
1
2  Two different Dozens so start betting
1   1   L   -1
2   2   L   -3
1   3   L   -6  No win so.  End of 5 spin cycle.

3
3
3
This is a question.  Do we use the first 3 or can we use the 4th 3?  If we use the 1st 3, the 1 ends the 5 unit sequence without a bet.  I will use the 4th 3 for this test.
3  
1  Two different doz so start betting
1   2   L   -8
1   4   L   -12
1   6   L   -18  Another 5 cycle without a win.

1
3  Two different dozens so start betting.
2   3   W   -12
2
3  This ends another 5 cycle.

1  The same question.  Do I start the next 5 cycle with this 1 or    can I wait until the 2nd 1?
1
3
2
2

I'm going to stop this post to get an answer to my question.

Even though this started out losing, it comes back nicely for a good win.

George

Hi GLC! Your posts are always appreciated! The thing now is that we do not play the same way... I for example would not have bet on the second or third set of 5 spins... I would be up at the end of the session by -6(first set), 0 (second set), 0 (third set), +6 (fourth set), +2 (fifth set)  = +2 units after the 5 sets with a maximum drawdown of -6.

You had a drawdown of -18 at one point... Anyways CODE CODE CODE this system people !!!
Cubano

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