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Why most roulette players lose

Started by RoulettePhysics, Apr 04, 08:00 AM 2014

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RoulettePhysics

Why most roulette players lose

Most roulette players have no idea about winning at roulette. I see it every day on roulette forums. Consider this: There are two players at a table. They both wait until there are 10 reds in a row. Player 1 says: “Ooh, red is on a streak. I’ll bet red next”. Player 2 says: “Ooh, […]

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TwoCatSam

Same ol' warmed over B.S..................
If dogs don't go to heaven, when I die I want to go where dogs go.  ...Will Rogers

Steve

You think the information is inaccurate? So casinos, consultants, statisticians, and all professionals are wrong?
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kingsroulette

QuoteNow consider doing the same thing, but in a situation where over 10,000 spins, there are 4000 reds and 6000 blacks.

STANDARD DEVIATION: Single Zero
18 numbers bet for 10000 spins

4000 hits = -17.30361825394801 SD

-17.3 SD is impossible, in real world. The comparison is vague.

kingsroulette

It is even much more difficult to happen than only 3 hits of red in any 250 consecutive spins. >:(

Drazen

Steve is it possible that man of your roulette knowledge can say something like this?

Such difference has same value as 316 EC-s in a row would have....  :lol:

Drazen


Steve

It wasn't obvious my examples were to illustrate a point?
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Drazen

I didnt know that when trying to make a point, flaunting with totally false numbers can make a point in the end?

I know that this approach wont create an edge, but on contrary with sophisticated MM can be very successful longterm, as will bring lower variance. I am using it on roulette and sports betting too, for enough of time now and I still have to bust... Actually even experience stretch of bank more then 30%...

And if I tell you that gambling around this approach has become my only income, you will probably just laugh, (still cant resent you that)  same as  when I drink sweet gambling juice   :thumbsup:

Cheers

Steve

I'll make it simpler:

1. The wheel has no memory of past spins
2. No winning number is ever "due"

Because of the above, no progression or money management will increase your chances of winning. Why? . . . Because varying bet size only changes the amount you risk on each independent spin, nothing more.

Drazen, you said your approach wont gives you an edge, but you say good money management will give long term profit because it lowers the variance. But the variance is exactly the same. How can what you do with your money affect the game? And this is my point. Another example is if you had 100,000 reds in a row, the chance of black/red is still 50/50 (assuming we dont have zero, happy now?). No money management will change this.

If you believe otherwise, please show me any evidence that your bet size will change the odds of a winning number.

Drazen if you have been successful so far, good on you, but it is not uncommon for players to be ahead with a losing system. Take 100 players all using the same losing system, and 40 will be ahead, and 60 will be broke. The 40 think they have defeated roulette, and the 60 are back to square one. The more the 40 continue to play, the more likely they will lose the lot. Its a billion dollar industry and the casinos rely on some people being winners to keep the hope going, but most being losers.

If you can provide any proof that your bets and money management can influence where the ball lands, I'll glady apologize.

If you and alabalah (kingsroulette) want to legitimately beat roulette, perhaps dont shitpick (link:://:.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=shitpicking) and carefully consider the above. Do whatever testing you want and understand I'm not trying to argue, I'm sincerely trying to help.
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marypauleen16

In my opinion, there are two possibilities:

1. There is a king of all cheaters.
2. Instead of finding a new strategy, most people tend to get used of the old strategy and keep their trust on fate, not on themselves.

Proofreaders2000

And if I tell you that gambling around this approach has become my only income-Drazen

Congrats Drazen if that is true.  :thumbsup:

SpinASequence

The wheel has no memory  -  but we do!



SpinASequence

ALL roulette play should be based on what numbers are coming up when you are actually playing.

You can chart the numbers and use them to find or confirm winning patterns, but each 37 or 38 actual consecutive series of numbers is unique and will not appear in that particular consecutive order again in your lifetime!

As you extend that series of play, each additional recorded number can be used to predict the extension of an observed pattern that shows that certain numbers in the series you just played have a better chance of coming up more than the probability of one time in 37 or 38 spins.

kingsroulette

QuoteIt wasn't obvious my examples were to illustrate a point?

           Either you have not attended probability classes ever or probability or randomness has never been your subject of study. Only your cheating devices can do anything for the mankind.

Steve

Alabalah (kingsroulette), link:://:.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=shitpicking

I understand you have a personal problem with me, because I banned you after:

1. You were spamming and selling systems on multiple forums I manage, and
2. I gave you ample opportunity to prove your systems work, and
3. You could not answer questions or address points that proved the systems you were selling dont work.

Nothing you've developed that Ive seen actually works. You are in no position to judge my methods, or my knowledge. I was very fair with you.

See the link for the definition of what you are doing, and why.

Its nothing personal, but please if you have justified criticism against me, go for it, nothing to hide here. If you are going to make trouble and troll because of a personal vendetta because of something any credible forum admin would do, its not welcome. You are welcome to post here to contribute, not to troll.

As for the issue you raised, I already clearly addressed it.
"The only way to beat roulette is by increasing the accuracy of predictions"
Roulettephysics.com ← Professional roulette tips
Roulette-computers.com ← Hidden electronics that predicts the winning number
Roulettephysics.com/roulette-strategy ← Why most systems lose

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