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Started by SpinASequence, Jul 03, 03:31 AM 2014

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cheEsteban

SamNL mentioned it here:

link:://betselection.cc/gambling-philosophy/fool-proof-progression/

It basically says you increase a unit on a lose or a win.
Some mention how it is better for near 50% odds. Chris555P shared this:
link:s://:.dropbox.com/s/zmwixa1giyo9rsm/Stetson%20Bailey.pdf
there i think it says that after a lose, increase one unit after a win and after a loss until you have increase your bankroll +1 unit over your count before the lose or the next positive gain above the bankroll before the loss.

At least that is how i understood it.
May the odds be ever in your favor.

stuggie

Have played this over a couple hundred (sets of 3) spins.

Had one set come out the same.

Im calling that the exception that proves the rule.

Great imo. ðŸ'ŒðŸ'

cheEsteban

Hello fellow travelers...

I have been playing with this most excellent system and looking at some tweaks using the 4000  Dublinbet results .

I have not been able to code this so i am just trying it manually with the  spreadsheet posted before with good results in the dozen or so cases. Would someone like to confirm?

Tweak:
1- Follow SAS' method but wait until a virtual win to start playing.
2- After virtual win, clear list and start tracking again; bet as suggested. Continue betting until positive BR.
3-After winning, continue tracking the same series (numbers so far tracked)  until virtual win.
4- Clear list and start tracking again to play.
5- If the tracking list (3 numbers) has all the same or contiguous numbers, then start tracking again when the numbers start being different.  Ex. 28,27,28,13  -> [28,27 discard] 28,13

Example:

12,10,34,12,8,15,22,15,19,21,31,22,15,36,36,19,0, 23

Hit   Group
12   1                        
10   1                        
34   7   Bet on:        W/L   Bet   U      Br
12   1   4   7      L   -8   1       -8
8     7   4   7      W   4   1       -4
15   4   1   4      W   4   1       0
22   4   4   7      W   4   1       4 <- virtual win
[clear list and start tracking again]
22   4                        
15   4                        
19   7                        
21   7   7   1      W   4   1       4 <- Win!!
31   4   7   1      L   -8   1       -4
22   4   1   4      W   4   1       0 <- Virtual win, start over
[clear list and start tracking again]
15   4                        
36   7                        
36   7                        
19   7   7   1      W   4   1       4 <- Win!!
0     0   1   4      L   -8   1       -4
23   4   1   4      W   4   1       0 <-Virtual win, start over

What do y'all think?  Some might notice that right after the actual win comes another one close by. Maybe it would be good to win two outcomes (rather than bet one and make the other a virtual win)  and then start over?

Thanks again SAS!!!


May the odds be ever in your favor.

cheEsteban

Here are the following numbers.
Is it me, or does it look like a good idea to bet until the second win?
Also,  a cuttoff seems indicated for a sequence that runs too long.

17,8,13,28,11,26,19,8,16,7,30,11,12,26,25,18,16,15,25,13,17,14,18,17,30,25,7,12,12,11,5,28,12,24,35,14,16,28,28,5,8,24,28,16,0,22,16,23,8,0,23,6,0,17,21,26,26,24,25,29,5,23,20,27,5,3,35,5,32,12,17,35,1,3,7,30,8,31,25,16,1,7,32,21,22,13,15,31,35,15,32,34,28,33,1,34,6,29,35,15,21,12,31,3,10,17,6 ,28,19,35,19,13,0,8,31,26,11,13,14,6,13,6,14,31,18,36,19,22,8,13,8,5,14 ,19,17,7,10,20,25,17,16,2,31,13,21,19,17,16,12,35,34,10,15,15,18,16,1,9,11,34,25,15,6,17,24


17   7                        
8   7                        
13   4                        
28   1   1   4      W   4   1   4   4
11   1   1   4      W   4   1   4   8


26   7                        
19   7                        
8   7                        
16   7   1   4      L   -8   1      -8
7   7   1   4      L   -8   1      -16
30   1   1   4      W   4   3      -4 <- decreasing, continue?
11   1   1   4      W   4   1      0
12   1   1   4      W   4   1      4
26   7   4   7      W   4   1      8


25   7                        
18   7                        
16   7                        
15   4   1   4      W   4   1       4
25   7   1   4      L   -8   1       -4
13   4   1   4      W   4   1       0


17   7                        
14   4                        
18   7                        
17   7   1   4      L   -8   1       -8
30   1   7   1      W   4   1       -4
25   7   1   4      L   -8   1       -12 <- stop at 3rd negative BR, if increasing loss?
7   7   1   4      L   -8   1       -20 
12   1   4   7      L   -8   1       -28
12   1   1   4      W   4   3       -16
11   1   1   4      W   4   1       -12
5   4   4   7      W   4   1       -8
28   1   4   7      L   -8   1       -16
--------------------------- alternative after suggested stop
7   7                        
12   1                        
12   1                        
11   1   1   4      W   4   1       4
5   4   4   7      W   4   1       8

28   1                        
12   1                        
24   4                        
35   7   4   7      W   4   1       4
14   4   4   7      W   4   1      8

16   7                        
28   1                        
28   1                        
5   4   1   4      W   4   1      4
8   7   4   7      W   4   1      8

24   4                        
28   1                        
16   7                        
0   0   7   1      L   -8   1      -8
22   4   4   7      W   4   1       -4
16   7   1   4      L   -8   1      -12

23   4                        
8   7                        
0   0                        
23   4   7   1      L   -8   1      -8
6   4   1   4      W   4   1      -4
0   0   1   4      L   -8   1      -12

17   7                        
21   7                        
26   7                        
26   7   1   4      L   -8   1      -8
24   4   1   4      W   4   1      -4
25   7   1   4      L   -8   1      -12

29   1                        
5   4                        
23   4                        
20   7   4   7      W   4   1      4
27   7   7   1      W   4   1      8

5   4                        
3   1                        
35   7                        
5   4   7   1      L   -8   1      -8
32   4   4   7      W   4   1      -4
12   1   1   4      W   4   1      0
17   7   7   1      W   4   1      4
35   7   7   1      W   4   1      8

1   1                        
3   1                        
7   7                        
30   1   4   7      L   -8   1      -8
8   7   4   7      W   4   1      -4
31   4   1   4      W   4   1      0
25   7   4   7      W   4   1      4
16   7   1   4      L   -8   1      -4
1   1   7   1      W   4   1      0

7   7                        
32   4                        
21   7                        
22   4   1   4      W   4   1      4
13   4   7   1      L   -8   1      -4
15   4   1   4      W   4   1      0

31   4                        
35   7                        
15   4                        
32   4   7   1      L   -8   1      -8
34   7   1   4      L   -8   1      -16
28   1   7   1      W   4   3      -4
33   4   7   1      L   -8   1      -12


1   1                        
34   7                        
6   4                        
29   1   4   7      L   -8   1      -8
35   7   1   4      L   -8   1      -16
15   4   7   1      L   -8   3      -40

21   7                        
12   1                        
31   4                        
3   1   1   4      W   4   1      4
10   1   4   7      L   -8   1      -4
17   7   7   1      W   4   1      0

6   4                        
28   1                        
19   7                        
35   7   7   1      W   4   1      4
19   7   4   7      W   4   1      8

13   4                        
0   0                        
8   7                        
31   4   7   1      L   -8   1      -8
26   7   1   4      L   -8   1      -16
11   1   1   4      W   4   3      -4
13   4   7   1      L   -8   1      -12
14   4   1   4      W   4   1      -8
31   4   4   7      W   4   1      -4
18   7   7   1      W   4   1      0
36   7   7   1      W   4   1      4
19   7   7   1      W   4   1      8

22   4                        
8   7                        
13   4                        
8   7   7   1      W   4   1      4
5   4   1   4      W   4   1      8

14   4                        
19   7                        
17   7                        
7   7   7   1      W   4   1      4
10   1   1   4      W   4   1      8

20   7                        
25   7                        
17   7                        
16   7   1   4      L   -8   1      -8
2   1   1   4      W   4   1      -4
31   4   1   4      W   4   1      0

13   4                        
21   7                        
19   7                        
17   7   7   1      W   4   1      4
16   7   1   4      L   -8   1      -4
12   1   1   4      W   4   1      0

35   7                        
34   7                        
10   1                        
15   4   1   4      W   4   1      4
15   4   1   4      W   4   1      8


18   7                        
16   7                        
1   1                        
9   7   1   4      L   -8   1      -8
11   1   1   4      W   4   1      -4
34   7   4   7      W   4   1      0
25   7   1   4      L   -8   1      -8
15   4   4   7      W   4   1      -4
6   4   1   4      W   4   1      0  <- find a new rule for ending a too long sequence?
17   7   1   4      L   -8   1      -8
24   4   7   1      L   -8   1      -16
15   4   7   1      L   -8   1      -24
32   4   1   4      W   4   3      -12
24   4   7   1      L   -8   1      -20
May the odds be ever in your favor.

valnurat

Quote from: SpinASequence on Jul 03, 03:31 AM 2014
Hi ALL,

This bet has been inspired by Ignatus and his 50/50 street bet and John Legend's Pattern Buster. Thanks to them!
Combined with the numbers from my House System, this bet is super random!

What is it?

It's a bet on 8 streets.

How do we play?

First you must learn the three SETS.

SET 1

These are streets :

1-2-3
10-11-12
19-20-21
28-29-30

For those who know my house system the first numbers will be familiar. They all reduce to : 1
This makes the bet easy to place.

SET 4 - why 4? Because the first numbers reduce to 4. Thus :

4-5-6
13-14-15
22-23-24
31-32-33

Remember these are STREETS!

SET 7

7-8-9
16-17-18
25-26-27
34-35-36

Again the first numbers reduce to 7 making the bet easy to place.

If you look down the layout you will see that
1
4
7

Repeat themselves another three times thus :

10
13
16

19
22
25

And finally

28
31
34

When reduced to a single digit it is just 1-4-7

And this is what we are going to bet on.

So how do we bet?

We bet after three spins and after reducing the numbers to a single digit as per the SETS described above.

Example from Betfair Live Casino this morning

0
10
32
29
27
35
1
29
4
16

I like to start my 'game' after a 0 or with a new dealer. But that's just me. You can start anywhere and the bet is struck after only three spins! No long waiting times for the 'trigger!'

So, after 0 - number 10 was spun. We know that this is in SET 1. We put 1 on a card thus :

1-

Next number spun was 32. We know that this is in SET 4. We put 4 on a card along side the 1:

1-4

Next number spun was 29. We know that this is again in SET 1. We put 1 alongside the other 2 numbers on the card thus :

1-4-1

Now we bet!

What is the bet? We are betting that the dealer cannot repeat this pattern. So our bet is on 8 STREETS using SETS 4 and 7

27 which is in SET 7 comes in and we win 4 units. If I win the first bet in the line I stop - although the second bet would have won also - and wait for another three spins.

So the above sequence would look like this on your card :

1-4-1
7-7-1 W
1-4-7 W actually all three would have won!

Win goal is between 10 and 20 units. I have been achieving this very easily! In fact I have never lost! Admittedly I have only been playing for a few hundreds spins but I reckon if you are patient and content to accept small gains - this is unbeatable.

There are probably other ways to play it. For instance in the first line of the example after the 1 we know we would be betting 4 and 7. We could take a guess and bet just four chips on one or the other.

I would be very interested to hear any suggestions and comments regarding the above which I hope I have explained properly!

Good luck!

SAS

I'm very sorry, but could someone explain this for me?
I don't know when to bet.
I don't know how much to bet.
I don't know when to stop.

Sorry for the lame question.
Best regards

moles40

Quote from: valnurat on Aug 11, 06:17 PM 2015
I'm very sorry, but could someone explain this for me?
I don't know when to bet.
I don't know how much to bet.
I don't know when to stop.

Sorry for the lame question.

you just write down which sets of streets have hit last 3 spins.each set has 3 streets in them.

so if after 3 spins we see that it hit set 1 4 4 for example so we would play set 4,7 first spin then set 1,7  2nd spin then set 1,7 third spin .your betting the last 3 sets dont repeat in same order next 3 spins.

if you win first spin great but i dont know what the progression is if it lost on first spin.think its tanked as original post has gone awol

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