something i thought of. betting on 18 numbers

[RouletteGhost]

I thought of a betting strategy that someone may already have thought of can be used on american or european roulette

it is bet on every other number on the wheel including the zeros

example: on american roulette bet: 00 0 13 14 24 23 15 16 22 21 17 18 20 19 11 12 26 25 28 27

may sound stupid but that is every other number on the wheel so every sector is covered. i observed a live roulette wheel and it had tons of hits

[Skakus]

Hi mate.

There are much easier ways to play 18 numbers that have the exact same chance of winning as your every other number idea.

Here is a list;

red
black
odd
even
high
low

These are the most simple varieties, and are more than enough to work with if 18 numbers is your thing.

Cheers.

[beretta28]

Much better to play 18 numbers that have not hit in the last 25/30 decisions(25/30 due to the law of third).
In this way you play 18 numbers(like an even chance) sleeping since 25/30 spins or more.

[Skakus]

Much better to play 18 numbers that have not hit in the last 25/30 decisions(25/30 due to the law of third).
In this way you play 18 numbers(like an even chance) sleeping since 25/30 spins or more.

Can you track this?

[Proofreaders2000]

may sound stupid but that is every other number on the wheel so every
sector is covered. i observed a live roulette wheel and it had tons of hits.-RichBailey86

Tons of hits, with half the wheel covered it absolutely has to to stay profitable.
In order to profit it has to hit at least 60% of the time, all of the time.

This looks more like a Visual Ballistics/wheel bias issue.

[ausguy]

Rich - The 38 number wheel gives an equal amount of red & black, Odd & Even & High & Low. Thread title says 18 no's but you show 20 numbers with both zeros ? Placing all splits would 1/2 the bets you needed to make.

37 number wheel is a different animal. Depending where a start/direction is made you'd get all Red or all Black @ 18 numbers + 0 = 19.

I haven't worked it out but perhaps working from zero & missing 2 then taking 2 may fit for a more even mix ?

As already said by others the Even Chance bets offer the same odds & certainly make it easier by only needing to place just 2 or 3 bets if betting the zero's.

Whether betting 20 numbers or 19 the win rate needs to be somewhere near the 60% Proof mentioned or a progression that allows for losing more than you can win on the bets covered.

"Tons of wins" flys in the face of the odds. As always the proof is in the profit. Play it & make money session after session looks a very tall mountain to climb ? Good fortune to you if you do.

[RouletteGhost]

I dont see it as the same. Covering every other number covers odds evens red and blacks

[ausguy]

Your idea does have some shortcomings in that numbers 1 - 12 are not covered as well as 28 - 36. Of the 1 - 36 numbers every other number still means that only half of the wheel/layout is covered. What's being said is that the mathematical odds are no different.

Let us not all argue here & get to the nuts & bolts of things. I've found 15 USA wheel spins from Proofreaders post via Notepad Jessi One Aug.9 2014.
So I'll give the spins & Win/Losses using your given numbers and perhaps you can then show us how to make a profit from your preset numbers ?

3R, 1R, 13B, 25R, 31B, 13B, 24B, 34R, 30R, 36R, 33B, 11B, 3R, 20B, 14R.
L    L     W     L      W     W     W     L      L      L      L      L     L     L      W        Six of the seven back to back losses have no chance of a win as they occur in your NO BETS ZONE as well as the 1st two spins.

I aknowledge it's only a small sample but the strike rate is rather low at 5/15 wins = 33.33% & losses @ 10/15 = 66.67%. Surely to win & profit the results would need to be nearly the SWITCHEROO of what they are ?

[RouletteGhost]

I understand. I think the every other number on the board can be played around with. You can do every other number like I listed or you can do the other 18 numbers

Either way every piece of the board is covered

I watched live roulette last night and I dont see this failing if a negative progression is used. Doesnt have to be martingale. Can be up 1 on a loss down 1 on a win. Ill post results this weekend. I have not seen more then 3 losses in a row

[Azim]

I know where you coming from with the 18 number's.  Here is a good way to play 17 number's.

It needs a session bankroll of 238 units and a lifetime bankroll of as many sessions as you want to try it.

I make my money very aggressively. The 4th hit is to recover. If I don't recover after 4th hit. It's over for the day.

link:s://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=DB42187C82F8D954!230&authkey=!AOTbutV9LBeJNCU&ithint=video%2cmp4

[Azim]

Your idea does have some shortcomings in that numbers 1 - 12 are not covered as well as 28 - 36. Of the 1 - 36 numbers every other number still means that only half of the wheel/layout is covered. What's being said is that the mathematical odds are no different.

Let us not all argue here & get to the nuts & bolts of things. I've found 15 USA wheel spins from Proofreaders post via Notepad Jessi One Aug.9 2014.
So I'll give the spins & Win/Losses using your given numbers and perhaps you can then show us how to make a profit from your preset numbers ?

3R, 1R, 13B, 25R, 31B, 13B, 24B, 34R, 30R, 36R, 33B, 11B, 3R, 20B, 14R.
L    L     W     L      W     W     W     L      L      L      L      L     L     L      W        Six of the seven back to back losses have no chance of a win as they occur in your NO BETS ZONE as well as the 1st two spins.

I aknowledge it's only a small sample but the strike rate is rather low at 5/15 wins = 33.33% & losses @ 10/15 = 66.67%. Surely to win & profit the results would need to be nearly the SWITCHEROO of what they are ?

He has quoted numbers from the American wheel.  He has gaps between numbers and turns out, he has decided not to play those gaps.

[ausguy]

Azim - In his opening post Rich says at the end of his 1st sentence..."can be used on american or european roulette". Is it not a fact that it actually can't be logically done ?

You are only pointing out things that are obvious ? The gaps between the numbers & my examples of Proofs spin records show the vunerability of the idea ?  Also Rich heads the subject as betting on 18 numbers but with the 0 & 00 + his other 18 numbers gives 20 numbers ? Even with 20 numbers it didn't help the results in my sample.

Any betting sessions with around 50% wheel cover will have winning plays as well as losing ones. With large gaps = 1st dozen & the top 1/2 of the 3rd dozen, all I see is a lot more losing sessions than winning ones.

Show me a range of sessions where it is otherwise ?

[RouletteGhost]

i had a good run but ended up losing with this system...

this system is good for a hit and run, i won often but the losses came quickly

if i was playing with 25 dollar chips id be way up right now

id wait 4 virtual losses then start