Reverse G.U.T.

[falkor]

Using some redundant software that was used to test a losing system, I am currently analysing numbers that have appeared (1) and not appeared (2) at the point a "crossing" is in sight after a certain number of spins.

Let's say 13 numbers have yet to appear and 12 numbers have already appeared exactly once, the idea is to bet on the 13 numbers, so that after the next spin the results have a good chance of changing to 12-13 indicating that the crossing was successful as predicted.

However, I tested 100,000 spins and found that betting a crossing lost 56 times in a row and won 11 times in a row - max. So I'm exploring a system that bets on the reverse to a crossing: instead of betting on the 13 numbers that have yet to appear, you bet on the numbers that have already appeared once!

[winkel]

*edited*
what happened with your tests?

within 100000 spins there have to appear more than 67 of those crossings 13-12

The hitrate of this crossing should be:
bet on 13 hitrate 13/37
bet on 12 hitrate 12/37

[winkel]

may I know who edited my post an why?

and even killed the facts in it?

[Turner]

may I know who edited my post an why?

and even killed the facts in it?

Winkel
I edited the post because it was personal. I kindly asked in the other GUT post to not get into wars of words.
I tried to do it subtly so as not to draw attention to it.
The actual post is in the mod lounge. If Steve thinks I have been harsh, he can reintsate it.
Already we are diverging from roulette discussion which was the opposite of my intention....that being discussing roulette in an open and friendly way without getting into personal wars of words
Turner

[winkel]

Thanks for your answer.

An additinal question:
Why didn´t the forums administration act this way in the posts of falkor in azim´s thread?

btw. The last part of that post was a copy of an post that falkor did. I just changed "winkel" to "falkor"
and "timewaster" was what I´ve been named by falkor.

So I´,m punished. He´s not.

Is it now the policy of this forum, that contributors who are friendly are punished and unfriendly users are protected?

[Turner]

Winkel
Falkor approached me on PM and apologised.
I was hoping my comment in the other GUT post would curb things. Both you and Falkors comments are still sat there unedited.
You are well respected Winkle and I admire how you have dealt with the most stup*d of GUT questions for 6 years.
Just choose your words more carefully and dont be drawn in.
I hope we can move on
Turner

[winkel]

Winkel
Falkor approached me on PM and apologised.
I was hoping my comment in the other GUT post would curb things. Both you and Falkors comments are still sat there unedited.
You are well respected Winkle and I admire how you have dealt with the most stup*d of GUT questions for 6 years.
Just choose your words more carefully and dont be drawn in.
I hope we can move on
Turner

Cmon Turner,

why did he apologize to you?

Did my comments include such words that falkor´s did?

Why am I forced to choose words? Did I do harm to any people over all those years? I had always to fight against attacks. I didn´t attack anyone in his threads over his contributions.

You should think about whom to give a warning and punishment and whose contributions are to be censored.

If you don´t like me just say so and I´m gone. And get happy with any of those falkors

[Turner]

Winkel
I dont see it as such a big deal and dont have any more comments
It might be better if you take it up with Steve.

[winkel]

You moderated me, so why do have I to discuss with Steve?

[Steve]

Winkel, I read the removed part and removal was justified. They were clearly personal attacks.

[winkel]

Hello Steve,

as IaAlready said, it was a copy of what falkor wrote to me.  Ijust gave it back.

Therefore one question is left:

Why were falkor´s personal attacks not removed?



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winkel

[iggiv]

Winkel if you see personal attacks please tell Mods about them (with links) instead of replying at the same tune. Mods are not necessarily read and see everything that happens here.

[winkel]

Turner did see the attacks. read the thread and you will see.

I´m a member from the beginning and did never anybody any harm. Now a newby comes up and disappears and is not moderated or even forced to behave.
And when I behave like him I´m punished.

Let´s talk about fairness and the right to protect myself of such attacks.

I USA I would just use the right of my pumpgun

[Turner]

Turner did see the attacks. read the thread and you will see.

I´m a member from the beginning and did never anybody any harm. Now a newby comes up and disappears and is not moderated or even forced to behave.
And when I behave like him I´m punished.

Let´s talk about fairness and the right to protect myself of such attacks.

I USA I would just use the right of my pumpgun

Winkel,

I made a comment in a post for you two to not have wars of words. Nothing was deleted. Your post was the first to not listen to my plea

If falkor had not listened first, I would of deleted his .

[iggiv]

Winkel take it easy. You know people here respect you.