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How to turn £75 > £5250 or $150 > $10,000+ for 28 hrs effort

Started by ego, Oct 19, 03:11 PM 2014

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ego

Don't tune or scoff out until you have digested the whole package, as one word may put you off, which is "Martingale", but hang on in here.

Lets throw in the sales pitch.

How to turn £75 into £5250 or $150 (for those across the ditch into over $10,000) for approx 28 hours of table action. Sound interesting?

YES, you do need a certain element of luck. Now we know you can't expect to be lucky all the time. You only need to be lucky for two hours. Yes TWO LOUSY HOURS from the on-set, you may not make it all the way, but it won't cost you anything either.

While people do not see eye to eye regarding bet selection, really it is a defensive mechanism, they need to convince themselves more than anybody else. In essence bet selection is a lottery. Each bet is a 50/50 bet, what happens after X is a lottery. No worries 'bout what you think, this can also suit your mindset.

Let's revisit a set of 4 column binary tables;

1---BBBB
2---PBBB
3---BPBB
4---PPBB
5---BBPB
6---PBPB
7---BPPB
8---PPPB
9---BBBP
10-PBBP
11-BPBP
12-PPBP
13-BBPP
14-PBPP
15-BPPP
16-PPPP


Note I have numbered all possible outcomes. Your aim using a 4 step martingale is to play 10 columns per day, less than ONE SHOE per day maximum and to avoid any 4 column loss.

For those that the progression Martingale leaves a bad taste, bear in mind, the total risk is the initial £75 or $150, if you can't afford to risk that amount, then read no further, or remind yourself of the 5 g's or 10k plus potential..

Your aim is to make 10 units per day (maybe 11 if you want to cater for the tax, or maybe you might choose to wear that small cost), not a dime more. Your aim is to repeat this for 7 days straight, remember, your exposure is minimum as you will not play more than 40 or 44 hands any one day. Any 4 column loss and you quit.

You need to avoid any 4 column loss for the first TWO DAYS ONLY, >> less than one shoe per day <<
Should you lose 4 hands on the bounce on the third day, you will still be in profit.

Should you manage to not lose for SEVEN days, on the second week, you double your unit size, should you lose when you double your unit size, you are still in profit. Again repeat the exercise for the next seven days.

NOTE* you can withstand two losses per week and still remain in profit, this excludes the first two days. Your odds of losing 4 bets in a row is less than 6%, which means your odds of winning a bet in any four bet sequence is just over 93%.

Should you manage to avoid any 4 column loss during the second week, again you double your unit value from £10 or $20, should you lose on day 15, you are still in profit. You just lost £300 but made £700 the previous week, how you determine the stake level for tomorrow is up to you, either drop down or press on, you can withstand 2 losing days per week.

If you have made it this far and only played 10 or 11 (due to tax) columns of 4 for the last 21 days and avoided defeat you double your betting amount for the final time.

NOTE* thus far this whole exercise has been SELF FUNDING.


Should you manage to avoid losing 4 in a row for the final week, you have just turned your initial stake of £75 into £5250 for approx 28 hours of table play, or $150 into over $10000, that's about 4 days work.

Week 1 - goal target £50 daily, weekly goal £350 - risk £75
Week 2 - goal target £100 daily, weekly goal £700 - risk £150
Week 3 - goal target £200 daily, weekly goal £1400 - risk £300
Week 4 - goal target £400 daily, weekly goal £2800 - risk £600


Maximum Total profit should you avoid 4L within 28 hours is £5250 less tax or for US based players over ten thousand dollars for a $150 stake. Other than the initial stake, IT IS SELF FUNDING.

Now take a deserved break and start again from the bottom. Does what you are currently playing carry a risk? Well so does this, so in this respect things are equal.

The risk is limited to £75 or $150, the rewards are greater than what you would ordinarily hope for given the amount of bankroll. If 100 players tried this, not all would be lucky, some would be. All that matters is surviving the first two days.

OK - the bet selection;

It really doesn't matter, either mathematically or logically.

If you believe in trending, then wait for one column of four and use the bet selection SAME. If you don't believe in trending maybe use the bet selection OPPOSITE. Random is probably the best.

If you don't care either way, maybe choose any one of the above 16 options and stick with it. Mathematically each sequence is suppose to occur once every 60 hands, be aware it doesn't always work out like this.

Maybe put the numbers I have associated with the 4 column options into a hat to determine your bet selection, it really doesn't matter. Perhaps omit the numbers 6 and 11 as these are the most common options for any 4 hand sequence. Don't lose sight of the total risk £75 or $150 and the potential reward.

Perhaps play each sequence in numerical order, that is bet option 1 followed by option 2 then option 3 etc. Logically it doesn't make any difference.

Should you lose for example on your fourth column, then that is it for that day, come back tomorrow and restart. You need SEVEN clear days of 10 units profit before doubling your playing stake.

The risk is carried for the first two days only, after that it is >> SELF FUNDING.

You could increase the risk and odds of not losing, by using a 5 column approach. You now have a 96% chance of scoring a win, however you would need to adjust you daily win target to 20 units, and would be playing that a particular 5 hand sequence from 32 possible sequences doesn't hit you for 20 columns..

$150 into over 10 "large" for 4 days effort!!!!!


Should this approach fail inside of the first two day, you would need to win 15 times just to get back to even. Then win another 10 times to progress from first base.

If you had a bankroll greater than £75 or $150 you might want to use the balance to construct recovery option for the first two days only.

Say you lost 15 units before you make 10 units. You then use the rest of your bankroll to recoup then continue where you left off. Few ways to do this, either use another martingale on top (lots of risk), or double your playing stake and use a Labby to win say 8 units, or possibly a Fibonacci, again to win either 15 units or 8 units if you doubled your initial stake size.

Nothing stopping somebody from playing two sessions per day, then you might achieve your goal in two weeks. Give yourself a decent break in between sessions. Yes I have explored this and I have found associating a numeric value to each of the possible outcomes of a Binary chart, as outlined above playing them simply in order 1,2,3,4 etc. faired best [random versus random]. You are either going to win or lose, the initial stake is not that great.

If you decided to play the options sequentially, option 1 is BBBB, you need to decide if you will bet the same as BBBB or the opposite of BBBB, which of course would be would be PPPP, It all works out the same, you're playing with of 15/1 odds no matter what.


Yes IT WILL lose eventually, will you be at the table when it does? Your nemesis has to catch you when you are playing, one of the reasons I state, play less than ONE SHOE per day.

Hence the reason make 10 units then bail. It can even lose when you are at the table, however it is the first 2 days which are crucial, after that, so long as you don't get back to back losing days you will be OK, again hence the reason to limit your exposure.

It really doesn't matter how you determine your bet selection. £5k or $10k for 28 hours graft, minimal risk "$150", cheaper than a few weeks worth of lottery tickets and better odds. 

Don't try and fast track this, by betting every hand, I would suggest that if anybody used other modes of play, that involves betting every hand, it wouldn't work. Losing 4 bets in a row when betting every hand is a whole lot easier than losing 4 bets for any given predetermined column sequence of bets.

The aim is to TRY and turn 75 quid or 150 bucks into £5 bricks or $10 large for 28 hours at the tables
. As I stated above, it doesn't really matter if you lose the 3rd day, 2nd stage, 3rd or even the 4th stage, you are STILL IN PROFIT. You need to be lucky for the first two days only, otherwise it is SELF FUNDING. Lose 4 bets in a row and you are done for the day, better for your composure.

Survive for a month and restart. Want to decrease the odds of losing?, Increase the risk..


Disclaimer - Gambling can be a risky business, only gamble with what you can afford to lose.
Denial of gamblers fallacy is usually seen in people who has Roulette as last option for a way to wealth, debt covering and a independent lifestyle.  Next step is pretty ugly-
AP - It's not that it can't be done, but rather people don't really have a clue as to the level of fanaticism and outright obsession that it takes to be successful, let alone get to the level where you can take money out of the casinos on a regular basis. Out of 1,000 people that earnestly try, maybe only one will make it.

ego


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This method is by the user John who i respect very much.
I copy hes post and made this topic and all credit goes to him.

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Denial of gamblers fallacy is usually seen in people who has Roulette as last option for a way to wealth, debt covering and a independent lifestyle.  Next step is pretty ugly-
AP - It's not that it can't be done, but rather people don't really have a clue as to the level of fanaticism and outright obsession that it takes to be successful, let alone get to the level where you can take money out of the casinos on a regular basis. Out of 1,000 people that earnestly try, maybe only one will make it.

ego

Denial of gamblers fallacy is usually seen in people who has Roulette as last option for a way to wealth, debt covering and a independent lifestyle.  Next step is pretty ugly-
AP - It's not that it can't be done, but rather people don't really have a clue as to the level of fanaticism and outright obsession that it takes to be successful, let alone get to the level where you can take money out of the casinos on a regular basis. Out of 1,000 people that earnestly try, maybe only one will make it.

ego


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I like this kind of methodology very much and is much better then the lottery.
Denial of gamblers fallacy is usually seen in people who has Roulette as last option for a way to wealth, debt covering and a independent lifestyle.  Next step is pretty ugly-
AP - It's not that it can't be done, but rather people don't really have a clue as to the level of fanaticism and outright obsession that it takes to be successful, let alone get to the level where you can take money out of the casinos on a regular basis. Out of 1,000 people that earnestly try, maybe only one will make it.

RobbieD

I've lost track of how many times I have read this - hasn't made sense yet.

Perhaps others will comment and enlighten me.

vladir

All very nice, but... can one survive 20 sessions (the first two days) withouth going bust? It requires a lot of luck... Losing 4 bets in a row isn't that hard... As with most things, a good bet selecction is required, and I really don't have one I can say is better then the others...

Still, I agree, it's probably better then playing the lottery.

"In God we trust; all others must bring data", W. Edwards Deming

Rewster88

Hello ego,

4 looks risky , ive did a test on something that looks the same. Looking @ the
Rouletteboard, bet against the most far away number on the board with a +2(L)/ -1(W) prgssion.
Reset when in +.


B --- last number
R
R
B
R
R
B
R----- last number on board


So next bets would be B,R,B,B ...etc

The only way you lose al lot is if the outcome is exact the same as before on the board.


Grtz Rewster

ego


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Hello ...

You can change the bet selection and tweak the method.
The concept is just a blue print, you might modife it.

Cheers
Denial of gamblers fallacy is usually seen in people who has Roulette as last option for a way to wealth, debt covering and a independent lifestyle.  Next step is pretty ugly-
AP - It's not that it can't be done, but rather people don't really have a clue as to the level of fanaticism and outright obsession that it takes to be successful, let alone get to the level where you can take money out of the casinos on a regular basis. Out of 1,000 people that earnestly try, maybe only one will make it.

warrior

There is a bet selection that will give you a 1331 .For ex if you take 3 spins .
RRR you have 1/8 chance but you have  3/8 chance of getting2 reds and one black.
There is a 1 in 16 that you will get 4 blacks in 4 spins.

wyldegibson

Quote from: warrior on Oct 20, 03:48 PM 2014
There is a bet selection that will give you a 1331 .For ex if you take 3 spins .
RRR you have 1/8 chance but you have  3/8 chance of getting2 reds and one black.
There is a 1 in 16 that you will get 4 blacks in 4 spins.


Sorry warrior, don't quite understand what you mean. Could you explain further or with some examples? Thanks!

warrior

Quote from: wyldegibson on Oct 20, 07:44 PM 2014

Sorry warrior, don't quite understand what you mean. Could you explain further or with some examples? Thanks!

Ok you have any even money bet,
Ex.
RRR     BBB
         
RRB     BBR
RBR     BRB
BRR     RBB

Ok so you see that you have one chance in three spins to get a RRR sequence and you 3 ways to get 2 Rs an a B ,and opposite with Bs .

So what I have been doing is I wait for the first spin and bet opposite.
Or with egos ex.on baccarat you have One in 16 to get a BBBB or PPPP the rest there are always 2 or 3 in a 4 spin sequence of the same even chance.i hope that makes sense .


wyldegibson

Quote from: warrior on Oct 21, 12:14 AM 2014
Ok you have any even money bet,
Ex.
RRR     BBB
         
RRB     BBR
RBR     BRB
BRR     RBB

Ok so you see that you have one chance in three spins to get a RRR sequence and you 3 ways to get 2 Rs an a B ,and opposite with Bs .

Yes I think I see what your saying. So if you bet opposite and lose do you stop play until you get a virtual win or do you just play on?

So what I have been doing is I wait for the first spin and bet opposite.
Or with egos ex.on baccarat you have One in 16 to get a BBBB or PPPP the rest there are always 2 or 3 in a 4 spin sequence of the same even chance.i hope that makes sense .

warrior

Quote from: wyldegison on Oct 21, 12:51 AM 2014

You stop play after 2 spin.
Ex R - you bet Black 2 times you only lose when there is 3 in a row of one colour
Now if you want to play where you wait and see what the first two results are then that's fine but it takes longer to bet.

If we take 4 spin result I found that you will get a 3 to 1 colour  ratio more then 4 in row and 2/2 ratio
Ex. bbbb 4 in a row
      bbrr 2/2
      bbbr 3 to one
Out of 16 spins there is a 37.5 % chance that you only win when you pick one colour to come out twice you lose when it's 1 3or 4 that's in 4 spins in gambling this is not the same ,the way I would pla this is wait for 3 outcome and make a guess if it will be 3 to one bet I lose if it 4 in row or 2 /2.
Ex
RRR here I would bet Black for a 3 to 1 result
RBR here I would bet red for a 3 to 1
RRB. Here bet red for 3to 1 that's the best your going to in this random game.

wyldegibson

Quote from: warrior on Oct 21, 11:52 AM 2014
You stop play after 2 spin.
Ex R - you bet Black 2 times you only lose when there is 3 in a row of one colour
Now if you want to play where you wait and see what the first two results are then that's fine but it takes longer to bet.

If we take 4 spin result I found that you will get a 3 to 1 colour  ratio more then 4 in row and 2/2 ratio
Ex. bbbb 4 in a row
      bbrr 2/2
      bbbr 3 to one
Out of 16 spins there is a 37.5 % chance that you only win when you pick one colour to come out twice you lose when it's 1 3or 4 that's in 4 spins in gambling this is not the same ,the way I would pla this is wait for 3 outcome and make a guess if it will be 3 to one bet I lose if it 4 in row or 2 /2.
Ex
RRR here I would bet Black for a 3 to 1 result
RBR here I would bet red for a 3 to 1
RRB. Here bet red for 3to 1 that's the best your going to in this random game.

Very interesting warrior. Based on your percentages I would think this would actually give us a long term edge. Definitely a nice bet selection that may not amount to much in short term playing but may be more beneficial long term which is most important

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