Why are we all here?

[RouletteGhost]

Lol turner

I am confident there is a money management technique that is unbeatable

[MrJ]

Any smart roulette player aims for progress, not perfection.

Ken

[Steve]

Money management alone is not enough, unless you are actually predicting when wins will occur.

See link:://:.roulettephysics.com/how-to-win-at-roulette/ which explains in plain language how roulette can and cannot be beaten, and why.

In a nutshell, the only way to beat roulette is by increasing the accuracy of predictions. And the only thing that determines where the ball will fall is physics.

But most systems are a complicated set of rules that are roundabout methods of bet selection, that do not at all increase accuracy of predictions. And short term winnings with progression give the illusion of profit, but eventually fall flat.

[Steve]

On another note, I still look for other ways to beat roulette, mostly out of interest. As far as earning a living from roulette, if its not broken, why fix it? Roulette computers already do a good job.

I believe precognition is a method that shows promise, but probably by the time you reach the consciousness required for sufficient accuracy, you are unlikely to care about roulette and money anyway. So an option is the majority vote method, which we had trials for previously that were positive. This is where many people predict numbers, and we bet on the most popular predictions. But to do large enough trials is not easy, so I was going to have software created to make it more practical although havent had time yet.

Instead of chasing money so much though, maybe people should focus on reducing their dependence on it. That's why I work on :.yourway.org.au and I get emails from people desperate for money all the time, but everyone seems to forget they are in debt by choice. Anyway that's getting sidetracked a little. Dont get me wrong, money is useful and used for trade, but it is not as essential as people think.

[RouletteGhost]

Id love to make a living on roulette

[Steve]

Its not without its own problems. If you cant easily play on suitable wheels, and enough of them so you arent always playing at the same place, then you can expect only to subsidize existing income, not necessarily making a living from it. That is unless you play with large bankroll and have a series of bigger wins. Thats the kind of approach by the Ritz team who won around $2m USD in 3 days.

If you have the right wheels, and time to do what's needed, and dont get bored so easily, you can do very well. Most people dont have the patience or right mindset for professional play. For me it started for the reasons:

1. Potentially easy money
2. I wasnt going to be part of the rat race, working all my life for peanuts (who would want that?).
3. I like the game and challenge

If anyone is interested in advantage play, I suggest start learning visual ballistics for free at link:://:.roulettephysics.com/ and if you dont like visual ballistics, then chances are no advantage play method is right for you, including roulette computers.

The best thing about it is your income is not affected by things like recession. It is still work though. And if you have too few wheels to play on, you cant rely on it for full time income because casino conditions sometimes change. You can get good or bad wheels one wheel, then the next week it can change. So for the average player, consider it an income boost, not a sole income.

[Proofreaders2000]

Dont get me wrong, money is useful and used for trade, but it is not as essential as people think.--Steve H.

That's sacrilege here in the United States (to even say that).

[Steve]

Money is just an instrument of trade. Become more self sufficient, and you wont need to trade as much.

Animals dont need money. They rely on themselves. We need somewhere in between where we are now, and back to very basics.

Money today has become a tool to control us. For example, the Federal Reserve and how it creates money from thin air. People ask for loans, the banks create the money from nothing and create a debt. People repay the debt. Where do they get the money from to pay the bank? That's their problem, plus they pay interest that is money that doesn't even exist until someone else asks for a loan and pays the bank.

[Proofreaders2000]

Yes, all true.

That said even bank tellers will mock you when your account balance decreases to an "unacceptable" level.  One banker even called the police over because she thought I was "too poor" to service.

Without money people will declare you a menace and treat you like a criminal,
whereas you could be the greatest scoundrel with money and treated like a rockstar.

Personally I don't people are mature enough to live without money (like bartering, etc.)
People will always need an outlet for their prejudices.

[Steve]

Also how much time do you spend making money? How much time do you spend reducing dependence on it?

Proof, as for bartering, you get taxed on that too if its above a threshold in value. Everywhere you look, we are being pulled into a system of money and control. We are born into it so we dont see the prison. We just accept it as reality. You are right, most people arent mature enough to live without money.

You can spend your life trying to make money, to relax on a beach somewhere, only to realize you could have done it for free. We are all deluded to some degree, probably all of the time. We just don't know it yet. No matter how well you think you know something, we are all at some level pretty dumb.

[Steve]

I bet the majority of people here are not here to win roulette or make money. You are probably here because you want freedom. And you are looking at roulette as the stepping stone.

But you mistakenly think money is the answer.

You can have loads of money and if you dont have the right mindset for freedom, you will probably end up bored and on drugs chasing highs. Thats what happens to many wealthy people. Many people with the wrong mindset will always be saying "if I can just have or do this or that, then I'll be happy".. but when you finally get that, you'll find another thing that is "missing" instead of understanding you already have everything you need. I'm at a point now where the less I have, the happier I am. I dont mean I will dump all assets. I mean I dont like having loads of toys and am happy to just sit on a beach and do nothing. I get more from basic free things than most things that cost money.

Its like how I never buy expensive cars. Its not a matter of money. I dont want to worry about having it scratched or dinted. As long as it has air conditioning and is reasonably nice to drive, I dont care what it looks like. I'd rather not care if it got damaged.

[MrJ]

"I bet the majority of people here are not here to win roulette or make money" >>> Lets be honest, money won is great. My MAIN reason is ego, I won't lie about it.

I love it when I leave a winner and the LOOK on the dealer/floor/pit, faces is great...... he's not suppose to leave a winner, what the hell is going on? (lol)

They somehow feel offended, nothing quite like it. Succeeding at something that is NOT easy, is why I play/study roulette.

Ken

[Proofreaders2000]

Also how much time do you spend making money? How much time do you spend reducing dependence on it?--Steve H.

I spend a lot (too much time) trying to make money.  A passive income would be nice.

Animals dont need money. They rely on themselves. We need somewhere in between where we are now, and back to very basics.--Steve H.

Have you met the Koch brothers?  People like those two will always keep society money-dependent.

You are probably here because you want freedom. And you are looking at roulette as the stepping stone.--Steve H.

Correct.

[Steve]

Stop quoting me.

I like boobs.

[Steve]

Actually dont think I've heard of Koch brothers until now. I'd need to read more to know who they are, but I'm sure to become a billionaire you will have needed to trample on a lot of people.