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Some ideas on table layout betting. (Subject modified)

Started by warrior, Nov 09, 10:53 AM 2014

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falkor

Quote from: falkor on Nov 25, 07:45 AM 2014
Here's the set in question if anyone would like to test:

15
33
20
4
0
30
10
30
11
4
10
28
2
21



1-6:

7-12:

13-18: 15

19-24:

25-30:

31-36:


1-6:

7-12:

13-18: 15

19-24:

25-30:

31-36: 33


1-6:

7-12:

13-18: 15

19-24: 20

25-30:

31-36: 33


1-6: 4

7-12:

13-18: 15

19-24: 20

25-30:

31-36: 33


1-6: 4

7-12:

13-18: 15

19-24: 20

25-30:

31-36: 33


1-6: 4

7-12:

13-18: 15

19-24: 20

25-30: 30

31-36: 33


1-6: 4

7-12: 10

13-18: 15

19-24: 20

25-30: 30

31-36: 33


1-6: 4

7-12: 10

13-18: 15

19-24: 20

25-30: 30 30

31-36: 33


1-6: 4

7-12: 10 11

13-18: 15

19-24: 20

25-30: 30 30

31-36: 33


1-6: 4 4

7-12: 10 11

13-18: 15

19-24: 20

25-30: 30 30

31-36: 33


1-6: 4 4

7-12: 10 11 10

13-18: 15

19-24: 20

25-30: 30 30

31-36: 33


1-6: 4 4

7-12: 10 11 10

13-18: 15

19-24: 20

25-30: 30 30 28

31-36: 33


1-6: 4 4 2

7-12: 10 11 10

13-18: 15

19-24: 20

25-30: 30 30 28

31-36: 33


1-6: 4 4 2

7-12: 10 11 10

13-18: 15

19-24: 20 21

25-30: 30 30 28

31-36: 33

Hi warrior, would you consider the above a tough session? Would have you have gone for the 5th DS?

vladir

Quote from: warrior on Nov 26, 10:56 AM 2014
Individual Bets do lose ,but sessions are won 100% of the time. :thumbsup:

100% of time...  With how much bankroll?

And you can't imagine a sequence of spins that would wipe out that bankroll?
"In God we trust; all others must bring data", W. Edwards Deming

warrior

Quote from: falkor on Nov 26, 11:03 AM 2014
Hi warrior, would you consider the above a tough session? Would have you have gone for the 5th DS?
I think I blinked and it won but if you have 37 spins to complete the session it would better because there is 2 within 2 within 2 to complete the none losing roulette method  :thumbsup:

warrior

Quote from: vladir on Nov 26, 11:09 AM 2014
100% of time...  With how much bankroll?

And you can't imagine a sequence of spins that would wipe out that bankroll?
Once in a while I will encounter a 6 in row loss every 3000 spins ,but I would still win the session.i hope that helps

warrior

How much bankroll the more the better  :xd: but I have a Life time  of 2000$ But a 1000 will do.

warrior

I know the question will be asked can this be played on American wheel yes there is no difference 0/00 are the green fairy instead on one wish I get 2 there's that 2 again >: :)

falkor

Quote from: falkor on Nov 25, 07:45 AM 2014
Here's the set in question if anyone would like to test:

15
33
20
4
0
30
10
30
11
4
10
28
2
21
Here's the rest of the numbers:
3
0
16
21
30
31
9
28
26
24
31
2
10
13
2
33
0
10
30
19
8
35
26

vladir

Falkor, how are you playing if I may ask?
"In God we trust; all others must bring data", W. Edwards Deming

vladir

Quote from: warrior on Nov 26, 11:24 AM 2014
How much bankroll the more the better  :xd: but I have a Life time  of 2000$ But a 1000 will do.

Thanks. It helps to get an idea of what to expect.
"In God we trust; all others must bring data", W. Edwards Deming

RFMAXX

Quote from: warrior on Nov 13, 09:09 PM 2014
Here are the results you made 20 units by the 19 spins very good.

Starting from  the second spin   I believe that you guys will figure this out.

+ 5 +4 +3 +1 -2 +1 -1 -7. -23 -41 + 15  + 20 good job

warrior, the excel file you refering to refresh its numbers on every download.
so we cant follow your bets.
could you please show us on a new example how you reach your wingoal
with the above +- units?
here are the numbers from falkor:

15
33
20
4
0
30
10
30
11
4
10
28
2
21
3
0
16
21
30
31
9
28
26
24
31
2
10
13
2
33
0
10
30
19
8
35
26

thanks

warrior

Falkor results

15 33 20 4 0 30 11 4 10 28 2 21
                                         L w
3 0 16 21 30 31 9 28 26  24 31 2 10 13 2  33 0 10 30 19 8  35 26
                                                  W

warrior

At the very least 222 will make 2 unit .i have had up to 7 units in a 2 frame game.

warrior

Quote from: falkor on Nov 24, 12:07 PM 2014
I believe it's the Law of the Third working in conjunction with the carpet layout that makes this system work. The designers made a mistake there - they should have just allowed single numbers alone.
I was going to add this  in my early threads but I did not want it to sound like bull crap because I take this game seriously .but yes if they were to design it with single numbers it would take way more bank and table limits would play a roll , not that I would hit these  limits ,I would reverse those too with the mm,they put limits for a reason so the player cannot go on a wild win streak and close the table .

Still

Quote from: warrior on Nov 26, 01:19 PM 2014
Falkor results

15 33 20 4 0 30 11 4 10 28 2 21
                                         L w
3 0 16 21 30 31 9 28 26  24 31 2 10 13 2  33 0 10 30 19 8  35 26
                                                  W

Warrior,

In the quote above, there were two numbers missing from the series of 37 numbers that were posted by falkor and then RFMAXX for study.  Given these two numbers (in red below), would you bet this session differently? Also, i see one loss and two wins.  Does that mean you only bet three times in this session?

15 33 20 4 0 30 10 30 11 4 10 28 2 21
                                         
3 0 16 21 30 31 9 28 26  24 31 2 10 13 2  33 0 10 30 19 8  35 26

Still

Quote from: warrior on Nov 26, 01:19 PM 2014
Falkor results

15 33 20 4 0 30 11 4 10 28 2 21
                                         L w
3 0 16 21 30 31 9 28 26  24 31 2 10 13 2  33 0 10 30 19 8  35 26
                                                  W

Ok let's go with the above series of numbers.  I will play Sherlock Holmes.  I see three bets on the following three states:

Bet #1

1-6: 4 4

7-12: 11 10

13-18: 15

19-24: 20

25-30: 30 28

31-36: 33

On Bet #1, it appears Warrior waited until six lines had opened, and three had closed, before betting on 1-3 of the open lines.  Since the next number was 2, that bet would have been lost, since that one hit on a line that was closed already. 

Bet #2

1-6: 4 4 2

7-12: 11 10

13-18: 15

19-24: 20

25-30: 30 28

31-36: 33

Bet #2 appears to have been a repeat of Bet #1, betting on 1-3 open lines for one of them to close.  21 came and closed at least one of the lines being bet on for a win.


Bet #3

1-6: 4 4 2 3 2

7-12: 11 10 9

13-18: 15 16

19-24: 20 21 21 24

25-30: 30 28 30 28 26

31-36: 33 31 31

Bet #3 would have been placed under the above state of affairs, where all six lines are closed.  If that were the case, I don't understand the logic of the bet selection from this data, and can only ask Warrior, is this the state you were betting on?



Mystery Bet

1-6: 3 2

7-12: 9

13-18: 16

19-24:  21 24

25-30: 30 31 28 26 31

31-36: 

On the other hand, if Warrior started re-tracking after the first win, then the third bet would have been on something like the above, where three of the lines are already closed. In that case, his third bet would have been similar to his first two.




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