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New player ,question about online roulette with live dealer

Started by serious sam, Dec 04, 03:35 AM 2014

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serious sam

Hi .I`m new in roulette world .So far I made lots of simulation on paper with live roulette,wich worked out good .I even played on money and won till casino rased minimal limits an lost (small amount of money)
My question is :which online roulette can I use for so called Martingale system that doesnt ban me or changin rules or changing bets during the game?

I tryed the highly apriciated Dublinbet with fun tokens ,after few wins ,they simply cut out half of my bets .If i beted on two collums outta 3 they cut one colum bet leaving me with just 33% chance of winning ....whats all about that ??

-I`m beting MY MONEY @ dublinbet ??

OR

-Dublinbet is betting MY MONEY @ dublinbet ? LOL

Frankly thats quite shit and dissapointing .....

So where can I play Martingale (within the betting limits of course)??Which one do you recomand ??Immersive Roulette is any good or they too starting to mess with your bets if you winning ?

Thank you and sorry for poor english

JimmieB

Hi Sam,

Sky Casino has a bet range from 0.5 to 1000 on ECs, dozens, and columns, however, beware of martingale, I played this when I was new to roulette, did well at first and then lost it...I'm sure I won't be the only person to warn you of this. There are some really good progressions on this forum, have a look at these first...

Jim

RouletteGhost

Sam,

Like jim said when i was new i was a martingale fan. Not anymore

You will be at X 10 before you know it

You may win at first, and unless your the luckiest cat in the world, you'll  lose on marty. Even fibonacci loses and its less extreme.

If marty worked you wouldnt see any other thread on this forum
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

serious sam

Thank you for your reply guys I will register to sky casino and see what`s al about
My Marty system is called "chase the colour" ...
So ..spin the wheel ...
1.black
2.bet 1unit on red ->lost
3.bet 1u black->lost
4.bet 3u red ->lost
5.bet 7u black->lost
6 bet 15u red,(optional 1u@0) ->if win good .if lost I start all over again....just bad bad luck.No good ? I studied lots of wheels in the last two weeks ,its very unusual frankly never saw b-r-b-r-b-r-b COMBO At least at LIVE wheels ...
Always one color repeats himself and when that happen , Samy wins  :P
No good ?

serious sam

Hi Im back as I was observing Immersive Roulette for long weeks now .
The conclusion is that there is no differentes betwen RNG slot machines and this live roulette .Both are manipulated.The principle after they r working is the same.Some say this land based roulette its working after mathematical algorithms and the ball its manipulated with air and all kind of laser sensors.(you can find out more about how the system works on youtube and googl)The provider also "learn" your strategies ,will study your "save favorite bet"s and in the and the system wil work againts you.Behind that (manipulated) wheel and cute dealer there`s a whole team working againts you.


Yes,the wheel is manipulated .Immersive rolette is manipulated .Whats the proof ? The proof is that i`m not stupid .
Therese plenty of little signs to know when a wheel is manipulated.You dont have to be a pro-gambler or mathematician or informatician.Its just common sense.

Unfortunatley other wheels are manipulated to (william hill etc etc.) U can see a manipulated wheel from the way its ball jumps

Chris555p

Can u explain the difference between live roulette Wheel and immersive roulette pls....? Thanks


Chris555p


birima

I would stay away from any online casino, live play or not. I watch 2 satellite channels broadcasting roulette spins all day but only for practicing visual ballistic skills. I often record them as well to have a closer look with avidemux (video editor that shows milliseconds). One wheel is so easy that I predict 80% right but No more Bets is called before ball release. I also wonder if the players online and the ones you see betting on television are for real. I have strong doubts about that. Then, if you win at all, they can start to struggle you with paying you, i.e. you have to submit all kind of proof like bank statements, copies of passport etcetera. If you don't agree, no payout and you can complain with some offshore Maltese gambling body. This I read more than once in different forums.

So what I really wanted to say is, be careful. :)
Air ball roulette Fair or rigged link:[url="//s://:.youtube.com/watch?v=4iumD4amuk0"]s://:.youtube.com/watch?v=4iumD4amuk0[/url]

serious sam

Yes that`s true .Same experience here ,with immersive roulette at betvictor . I was winning and withdrawing some money then they blocking my bets (bets closed much earlier like 3-4 seconds instead of 11 ).First toughst was that had some error but then repeted again. Of course i lost all the money I already won in that session, beacause I couldn`t bet as I want .(i put only a quarter or maybe half of my bets on the table)
I contacted the suport team, they told me its my fault (of course) beacause of poor inetrnet conection (not true,I have a fast internet and the wheel was spining the conection wasn`t buffering) then the other this Tom guy told me to change my browser because its browser fault (yea,right)

Conclusion ?STAY AWAY FROM IMMERSIVE ROULETTE AND BETVICTOR you will NEVER walk away with your money .If you win they will cheat BIG TIME. Not to mention the ball is jumping like MF is clearly manipulated .

Betvictor shoot yourself .

nottophammer

Now everyone says dont touch rng,but reading about your on-line experiances with live dealer, cant get bets on etc.etc.
Well i'm now wondering if playing rng in bookies, does the machine(software) recognise my playing style,as after say 30 minutes starts to get harder to win,also as they want £1 to spin and i dont want to bet every spin, i play 6 ds's so no zero get money back,i do this often,so do you think could recognise ME
How do you win at roulette, simple, make the right decision

serious sam

With RNG it goes this way :a moderating team will see yor bets everytime you bet.In freeplay the game doesent connect to database.If playin for real money it does.I wonder why ?First lets you to win (or loose ,depends on your luck) then intervens and rip of your money.imagine that,it let you win 5 times but loose 3 times ->its a disaster U will end up broke .

But lets stay on topic .The topic is ONLINE Roulette with live dealer .

So far I`ve had a bad experiente with : Dublinbet (if you win, after a time they intervenes and wiping half of the chips from table (lol) after closing bets) William Hill (cheating and changing rules during the game.ex changing the minimal bet and so on ..) Betvictor immerisve roulette (blocking bets and ripping of your money)

Stay away from this casinos as they are legal thiefs.

moles40

i hate dublin bet .you dont get much time to place bets and sometimes it frezzes on you :(
:question:

tezza12

Quote from: serious sam on Jan 31, 02:48 AM 2015
With RNG it goes this way :a moderating team will see yor bets everytime you bet.In freeplay the game doesent connect to database.If playin for real money it does.I wonder why ?First lets you to win (or loose ,depends on your luck) then intervens and rip of your money.imagine that,it let you win 5 times but loose 3 times ->its a disaster U will end up broke .

But lets stay on topic .The topic is ONLINE Roulette with live dealer .

So far I`ve had a bad experiente with : Dublinbet (if you win, after a time they intervenes and wiping half of the chips from table (lol) after closing bets) William Hill (cheating and changing rules during the game.ex changing the minimal bet and so on ..) Betvictor immerisve roulette (blocking bets and ripping of your money)

Stay away from this casinos as they are legal thiefs.

Are you even for real, you can spin 10, 1000 or even infinity rng spins, and not have to bet, so the casino has no idea what YOU are looking for, they are not telepathic, even rng has to stay within the rules it was built upon, i fully agree sometimes rng can be 'hard' to win, sometimes it can be easy, thats why we must have patience, self control and discipline, let me ask you, if i spin 10,000 rng spins, i could be looking for any number of events, i may see 5 x 7's appear on the bounce, but it means nothing to me if i am not betting.
Your suggestion that casinos are cheating i think is silly. they do not need to, why, because a person can be clever (and may win) but people, in bulk, are stupid and greedy, the casino does not mind some winners because the bulk is where they get there money from. 

TwoCatSam

If dogs don't go to heaven, when I die I want to go where dogs go.  ...Will Rogers

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