Known Avg but probably disagree

[nottophammer]

turner
i'm not playing just a random 26 numbers or 10 numbers.
Turn up at table or in my case touch screen in betting shop, have clip board one pic of mat NO numbers crossed OFF.
So have 10 spins and if no repeat theres 27 to cross of, i'll play for another 50 spins. Now each game of 60 spins is add to excel,
if the 27 numbers miss for 6 i have a new avg or what you experts want to call it.

nottophammer,

I have a quick question for you...  Ok...


We are going to wait 4 to 5 spins for 9 to 10 numbers..

How many spins will you wait for 17 numbers? Average for 17 numbers is 2 to 3 spins?

I could wait for 11 as only 6 chances to bet on touch screen in betting shop as max bet is £100.00

the avg you say Azim is a math answer?  to come in. the longest i've seen to come in is 17 spins and the avg spin to come in is 2.41

the point is knowing avg 2/3 spins is not alot of good if goes 17, so knowing the avg is not a lot of help so do we disagree with avg or go with it

[Azim]

NOT SAYING YOU ARE A SCAM.


BUT THIS LINK WAS A SCAM AT THAT TIME:

link:://:.vlsroulette.com/index.php?topic=8929.30

Read it. If you guys remember Winkel said his Idea getting sold , here it is.

He has been waiting for 33 spins  and his result was the Andruchi process.

Noto: What makes you think this will work now?

On another note "LuckoftheIrish" had done a nice analysis on on about 2.2 million numbers and came to the conclusion that it tanked out on him.

I knew  and know even 17 numbers is hard,  I didn't believe the numbers LuckoftheIrish produced.
I tried it my self last week, I have a tester for this.  If you guys want it, I can give it to you.

You will see it will go past 4 or 5 spins were bets get huge.

Yes Sometimes you get a hit on the first spin.

Here is the link to the numbers produced by LuckOftheIrish.

link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=7121.msg65672#msg65672


Once again not saying you are out to scam.  Saying the link before LuckOfthe Irish was the advanced Andruchi.

This has all been looked into.

[nottophammer]

are these devil numbers 0,19,21,25,8,10,5,7,and 28 from an old topic 666on VLS.
Forget the devil numbers bit,just look at those 9 numbers.

2,4,5,10,11,21,23,26,32,36 these 10 numbers from chaotic.

The above sets of numbers could have been  randomly picked, but are a known sets from historic posts.

The above 9 numbers longest seen take to come in is 31 spins on rng,  the 10 numbers on rng 21 spins.
Know can take that long to come in from data saved, so know is true.
Would Maths say the avg to come in is 31 spins for the  devil numbers and 21 for numbers from chaotic, or would formula say should come in before 31 and 21 spins or god forbid even longer.

Scam dont know what you mean, R,B,LOL
This topic went of the rails in my opinion, all i was asking is why 9 random numbers took 31 spins to come in. why did the 10 numbers that to me are not random as i started with a pic of the mat with no numbers crossed out, proceeded to play the usual 60 spins, crossing out each number off the mat as it hits, eventually theres 10 numbers left to hit,and seen it take 21 spins to hit, all game play records show never gone 22 spins on rng. down below 711 games of spread sheet showing spins
for the 10 numbers to hit, of 711 games 222 came in on 1st spin, 153 came in on 2nd spin. I can bet these 10 with progression
for 13 spins in betting shop with max bet of £100.00, starting with .20pence units 1,1,1,2,3,4,5,10,15,20,25,35,50
As you can see 375 games won with just 2 spins,   SO CAN WE USE AVG

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2476 total  spins

3.482419128  avg of spins


711  games
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21 max to come in
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153    2nd spin
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[nottophammer]

HERES THE  GAME WITH THE 21 SPINS
GG-9               1   2   2   2   2   3   2   2   1   1   1   1   1   5   1   3   5   4   21      16


gg-9  IS 9 NUMBERS IN 1ST 10 SPINS  AND  AVG (USUALLY ) SAYS WILL GET 15 .7423221 NUMBERS IN 30 SPINS.

HERE WE GET 16 IN THE 30 SPINS, 10TH NUMBER WENT STRAIGHT IN.  THE 4 IS THE 27TH NUMBER OF THE 37