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Started by hkl8324, Feb 23, 12:40 AM 2015

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ego

Quote from: nottophammer on Feb 24, 01:16 PM 2015
Hi Ego is your report for live or rng. Have seen a dozen miss on rng for 33 spins in uk betting shop supplier global draw. Know this as i've been there and done it.
I started to bet the missing dozen when told of the idea which was posted on the internet. It said wait for 1 doz to miss 5, guarnteed to come in in11 spins, this it did for months in bookies, but alas they must have changed the program, perhaps to many people playing it.
Bruv had a mate doing this idea was making thousands on smartlive, but even he did lose some, he would bet the four corners in the dozen,starting with 25p chips and double up,cant remember the prog,but if the middle column come in  think he could win around 4'000

Hello i considering playing this method, but not how i describe it ... i am testing one dominant - only following one location - for example dozen 1.
You see after simulating 10.000 trails i got a peak of 23 in a row, so the 15 trigger is valid, but i am looking at one location and many location did not pass 19.
So i am experimenting with higher variance and taking more risk.
Denial of gamblers fallacy is usually seen in people who has Roulette as last option for a way to wealth, debt covering and a independent lifestyle.  Next step is pretty ugly-
AP - It's not that it can't be done, but rather people don't really have a clue as to the level of fanaticism and outright obsession that it takes to be successful, let alone get to the level where you can take money out of the casinos on a regular basis. Out of 1,000 people that earnestly try, maybe only one will make it.

Turner

HK
Wait 4 or 5 or 6 then bet that dozen is as old as the hills.
First thing I looked at when I didn't have a clue.
Actually...it makes more sense to bet the hot DD after it hit the 6th time.
Only slightly more sense though.
Or bet the sleeping dozen when it shows up

Remember Murphy's law

ego

Quote from: Turner on Feb 24, 01:53 PM 2015
HK
Wait 4 or 5 or 6 then bet that dozen is as old as the hills.
First thing I looked at when I didn't have a clue.
Actually...it makes more sense to bet the hot DD after it hit the 6th time.
Only slightly more sense though.
Or bet the sleeping dozen when it shows up

Remember Murphy's law

That will not give you winning odds better then 99%
Probability and gap methodology is as good as it gets.
Denial of gamblers fallacy is usually seen in people who has Roulette as last option for a way to wealth, debt covering and a independent lifestyle.  Next step is pretty ugly-
AP - It's not that it can't be done, but rather people don't really have a clue as to the level of fanaticism and outright obsession that it takes to be successful, let alone get to the level where you can take money out of the casinos on a regular basis. Out of 1,000 people that earnestly try, maybe only one will make it.

hkl8324

Quote from: ego on Feb 24, 10:17 AM 2015
If you reply to this, then i will try to help you.
All we have is statistics and odds.


Cheers

Thank you.
This is exactly what I want to know.
But how about at a given day I only play 400 spins and leave the casino. (When the casino run for 24/7/365)
The probability of having 17 sleeping dozen in a row is when I play? (It can have 17 sleeping dozen when I am not there)
It is non-calculatable? :twisted:
It is still all luck?

hkl8324

Quote from: ego on Feb 24, 10:22 AM 2015
Think like this, you bet that it will not be a new world record, conclusion 22 times with 11 step progression.

Here is one example if you start from 15 in a row during one week play.
If you track 300 trail each day.
But this was all dozen and colums tracking.

1 bets won
6 bets won
3 bets won
2 bets won
3 bets won
6 bets won
5 bets won

260 Euro

Cheers

Sorry cannot interpret that correctly "if you start from 15 in a row"
Meaning I start playing after 15 sleeping dozen?
Maybe only computer program can do this. Waiting for 15 sleeping dozen in a row is very boring.

hkl8324

Quote from: ego on Feb 24, 12:15 PM 2015

There is two options here.
One is to stretch the progression and make it accept small loses in the middel and at the end, so the first bets win +1 unit or break even.
And the other solution after the last bet of the progression is to bet half the size of the total amount of the progression.

That way you could bet against 19 to 30 with the first option and from 30 to 33 using the last option.
But to build such progression you need to know your table minimum and maximum.



The table min is 5 and max is 5000
(Online casino using the same video feed over three table which have different limits, so I can consider this to be the same table with limit 5-5000)

ego


Forget this method ...

Search for better methods, my opinion
Denial of gamblers fallacy is usually seen in people who has Roulette as last option for a way to wealth, debt covering and a independent lifestyle.  Next step is pretty ugly-
AP - It's not that it can't be done, but rather people don't really have a clue as to the level of fanaticism and outright obsession that it takes to be successful, let alone get to the level where you can take money out of the casinos on a regular basis. Out of 1,000 people that earnestly try, maybe only one will make it.

ati

Quote from: hkl8324 on Feb 23, 11:35 PM 2015
NoNoNo
I am not going to use this forever
I just want to make 1000 to 5000 with this, that is my goal.

If only it was that easy... ::)
I only want to win â,¬10k, it would help me finally buy a very small apartment. But instead I lost about 2k in the past few years.  :-\ I don't have the guts to take 3k to the casino and try double or triple up, as it takes ages to save up that kind of money.

Proofreaders2000

That progression is suicide hkl8324.

While in theory one could win with an
unlimited progression casinos set table limits.

With dozens/columns you have three chances to profit/break-even.  Why not
flat-bet a dozen that has not hit in seven spins and stop at a win or three misses?

(Or whatever you are comfortable with) and make your flat-bets slightly larger
than your martingale bet.

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