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cheated or just bad luck

Started by nottophammer, Mar 30, 03:54 PM 2015

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ati

RNG vs live has been discussed many times before. There are probably cheating rng's, but the honest ones are no different from a live wheel. I'm very close to double my roll this year playing only rng. I started with over 20000 units.
There are members here who ran up â,¬50 deposits to 5-10k on BV, and there are members who told me in PM, that they're winning just about every session. Don’t forget that real wheel system players fail just as often as rng players. One might lose faster on rng, because 1 hour play on a fast rng could equal to 5-10 hours of live play.

nowun

Quote from: ati on Mar 31, 02:44 AM 2015
RNG vs live has been discussed many times before. There are probably cheating rng's, but the honest ones are no different from a live wheel. I'm very close to double my roll this year playing only rng. I started with over 20000 units.
There are members here who ran up â,¬50 deposits to 5-10k on BV, and there are members who told me in PM, that they're winning just about every session. Don’t forget that real wheel system players fail just as often as rng players. One might lose faster on rng, because 1 hour play on a fast rng could equal to 5-10 hours of live play.

That is what every "loser" forgets, RNG is really fast so you play a lot more spins in a very short time, this amplifies how quick you win or lose.  Blackjack is the same.  I played RNG Blackjack on Bluesquare and won over $100,000 in five hours playing $50-$16,000 per hand, at one point I was up over $250,000, then hit a losing run.  From memory I think I wagered well over $1,000,000.
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nottophammer

Thanks for all the replies.
Was it a cheat or just my bad luck, if i'd placed the missed chip i would have won. So just bad luck ?

The 15 numbers were  0,1,5,12,15,18,19,24,25,27,28,29,31,33,36. red are in the 12 numbers from the tier, could of hit 18 right next door or even two pockets on 28.

Anyway you play as if its live roulette but we all know its an egm, so playing a prog, whats wrong with playing a prog as long as the software cant blatantly cheat you,perhaps like in this topic?
How do you win at roulette, simple, make the right decision

TwoCatSam

About two weeks ago at Riverwind I saw four 00s in the space of nine spins.  After the first two, a guy bet about $5--which is huge for Riverwind as most play .25---and won.  He then bet again and won even bigger.

I saw a guy playing the zeros once and his stack was:

A huge pile on the 0/00, zero, the double zero, the zero pocket and he was betting the splits 0-1 and son on.  His stack of chips was huge.  He won.  Why would a crooked RNG let him--and my wife--win?

People tell me the greens come all time.  I record numbers as they come and it is not unusual to go 75 spins and NO green.

I quit worrying about the RNG being crooked and now I worry about Sam.

TwoCat
If dogs don't go to heaven, when I die I want to go where dogs go.  ...Will Rogers

nowun

Quote from: TwoCatSam on Mar 31, 09:02 AM 2015

I quit worrying about the RNG being crooked and now I worry about Sam.


Exactly how it should be.  Most gamblers are notoriously bad losers, very quick to cry fowl.  Guilty here as well.  Although some really are crooked.  Usually short term ones though.
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nottophammer

exactly Sam, why do they need to cheat. Looking back at a sheet 18.3.15 paddy power 2nd spin zero 17 spins another zero,11 spins later zero. 3 zeros, so lets look at that 3 zeros in 30 spins on rng, its worth 108 units, next 30 spins no zero, so we might not see another zero for 78 spins as its balanced from the time we started betting

How do you win at roulette, simple, make the right decision

marivo

Quote from: nowun on Mar 30, 08:36 PM 2015
the member who posted it has not frequented the forum since he posted it.
You mean memeber "vile"?

TwoCatSam

Ah, Vile, aka FLATman

If it's that thing that switches from last to first, it is not a winner long term.  I paid for a sheet to put that into the ExcelBot and tested it on real spins from Spielbank.  I tried everything I could and I could not make it work.

But "Vile" was around for quite a while, no?

Sam
If dogs don't go to heaven, when I die I want to go where dogs go.  ...Will Rogers


Chris555p

Naan, I tested this one extensively for about a month and it tanks; I believe there are some tweaks
to it but Vile did not put in the the post in the forum......

May be nowun or someone else who knows can tell us who this intelligent person who posted the
system is or was.....??

TwoCatSam

Yep, that's the one I tested with the bot.  It's not any worse than any other, but don't expect to set it and forget it and make money.  I did learn one very interesting thing---which I have never followed up on.

The bets on "last" seem to hit in streaks more than "furthest".  After one hit, there was almost always another.
If dogs don't go to heaven, when I die I want to go where dogs go.  ...Will Rogers

RouletteGhost

Twocat,  betting last 3 DS to show?
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

TwoCatSam

Last 9 splits vs oldest 9 splits.
If dogs don't go to heaven, when I die I want to go where dogs go.  ...Will Rogers

RouletteGhost

twocat, i love that idea!

i will test looking at the past 9 numbers and betting them as a split with another number

the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

TwoCatSam

Here is the sheet I had written.  Put in numbers until it tells you to bet.

Notice that when "last" wins, there may be four or more in a row.  You do not see that with "furthest".

Sam
If dogs don't go to heaven, when I die I want to go where dogs go.  ...Will Rogers

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