Dont Knock it till you try it

[Celticknits]

I dont know when or if betting double dozen with +1 then -1 then parley,parley till back to 1-1 posted before,perhaps one of the vets could let us newbies know.

-Notto

Just got back from the local B&M.
Played $5 base bets with $150 BR  +1/-1 and parlay once on a win after a loss.

Made $75 profit in 1/2 hour.

Right now I am only playing this method and KTF.
I played this today because it does not take much thought or tracking.

The only thing that I do not quite understand is what to bet when 0 or 00 hits.
I do not cover these.

Anyways I am only playing this system with casino money----another reason for uping the base to $5

Thank you for the great work!!!

-Celticknits

[nottophammer]

Hi Celticknits
Yes the zeros, my thought is no bet,just sit the next spin out or you could rebet the last double dozen.

I'm putting up yesterdays Jackpot247.com #'s
i use +1/-1, i keep on parley till it gets back to 1-1, it can be a rollercoaster, But i'll use these words keep the faith,it makes a profit at spins 18,19  and ends in a profit.

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spin #span doz doz-doz to bet +1/-1 stake return total  out total return Running total
1 34 3 jackpot 247.com 5.2.16
2 18 2 1-2 1-1 2 3 2 3 1
3 19 2 1-3 1-1 2 0 4 3 -1
4 14 2 1-3 2-2 4 0 8 3 -5
5 20 2 1-3 3-3 6 0 14 3 -11
6 22 2 1-3 4-4 8 0 22 3 -19
7 7 1 1-3 5-5 10 15 32 18 -14
8 5 1 2-3 5-5 10 0 42 18 -24
9 30 3 2-3 6-6 12 18 54 36 -18
10 10 1 1-2 6-6 12 18 66 54 -12
11 10 1 2-3 5-5 10 0 76 54 -22
12 35 3 2-3 6-6 12 18 88 72 -16
13 19 2 1-2 6-6 12 18 100 90 -10
14 11 1 1-3 5-5 10 15 110 105 -5
15 2 1 2-3 5-5 10 0 120 105 -15
16 18 2 2-3 6-6 12 18 132 123 -9
17 27 3 1-3 6-6 12 18 144 141 -3
18 1 1 1-2 5-5 10 15 154 156 2
19 34 3 2-3 5-5 10 15 164 171 7
20 28 3 1-2 4-4 8 0 172 171 -1
21 36 3 1-2 5-5 10 0 182 171 -11
22 26 3 1-2 6-6 12 0 194 171 -23
23 25 3 1-2 7-7 14 0 208 171 -37
24 15 2 1-2 8-8 16 24 224 195 -29
25 2 1 1-3 8-8 16 24 240 219 -21
26 26 3 2-3 7-7 14 21 254 240 -14
27 31 3 1-2 7-7 14 0 268 240 -28
28 29 3 1-2 8-8 16 0 284 240 -44
29 19 2 1-2 9-9 18 27 302 267 -35
30 2 1 1-3 9-9 18 28 320 295 -25
31 13 2 2-3 8-8 16 24 336 319 -17
32 11 1 1-3 8-8 16 24 352 343 -9
33 23 2 2-3 7-7 14 21 366 364 -2
34 19 2 1-3 6-6 12 0 378 364 -14
35 22 2 1-3 7-7 14 0 392 364 -28
36 31 3 1-3 8-8 16 24 408 388 -20
37 14 2 1-2 8-8 16 24 424 412 -12
38 9 1 1-3 7-7 14 21 438 433 -5
39 10 1 2-3 7-7 14 0 452 433 -19
40 8 1 2-3 8-8 16 0 468 433 -35
41 18 2 2-3 9-9 18 27 486 460 -26
42 25 3 1-3 9-9 18 27 504 487 -17
43 23 2 1-2 8-8 16 24 520 511 -9
44 0 0 1-3 8-8 16 0 536 511 -25
45 8 1 0 0 536 511 -25
46 36 3 2-3 9-9 18 27 554 538 -16
47 4 1 1-2 9-9 18 27 572 565 -7
48 15 2 2-3 8-8 16 24 588 589 1
49 2 1 1-3 8-8 16 24 604 613 9
50 9 1 2-3 7-7 14 0 618 613 -5
51 25 3 2-3 8-8 16 24 634 637 3
52 16 2 1-2 8-8 16 24 650 661 11
53 18 2 1-3
54 36 3 1-3


This is different, when it gets into profit i went back to 1-1. I'll say it seems safer but the profit remains low, untill the end, which is still a good profit.

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spin #span doz doz-doz to bet +1/-1 stake return total  out total return Running total
1 34 3 jackpot 247.com 5.2.16
2 18 2 1-2 1-1 2 3 2 3 1
3 19 2 1-3 1-1 2 0 4 3 -1
4 14 2 1-3 2-2 4 0 8 3 -5
5 20 2 1-3 3-3 6 0 14 3 -11
6 22 2 1-3 4-4 8 0 22 3 -19
7 7 1 1-3 5-5 10 15 32 18 -14
8 5 1 2-3 5-5 10 0 42 18 -24
9 30 3 2-3 6-6 12 18 54 36 -18
10 10 1 1-2 6-6 12 18 66 54 -12
11 10 1 2-3 5-5 10 0 76 54 -22
12 35 3 2-3 6-6 12 18 88 72 -16
13 19 2 1-2 6-6 12 18 100 90 -10
14 11 1 1-3 5-5 10 15 110 105 -5
15 2 1 2-3 5-5 10 0 120 105 -15
16 18 2 2-3 6-6 12 18 132 123 -9
17 27 3 1-3 6-6 12 18 144 141 -3
18 1 1 1-2 5-5 10 15 154 156 2
19 34 3 2-3 1-1 2 3 156 159 3
20 28 3 1-2 1-1 2 0 158 159 1
21 36 3 1-2 2-2 4 0 162 159 -3
22 26 3 1-2 3-3 6 0 168 159 -9
23 25 3 1-2 4-4 8 0 176 159 -17
24 15 2 1-2 5-5 10 15 186 174 -12
25 2 1 1-3 5-5 10 15 196 189 -7
26 26 3 2-3 4-4 8 12 204 201 -3
27 31 3 1-2 4-4 8 0 212 201 -11
28 29 3 1-2 5-5 10 0 222 201 -21
29 19 2 1-2 6-6 12 18 234 219 -15
30 2 1 1-3 6-6 12 18 246 237 -9
31 13 2 2-3 5-5 10 15 256 252 -4
32 11 1 1-3 5-5 10 15 266 267 1
33 23 2 2-3 1-1 2 3 268 270 2
34 19 2 1-3 1-1 2 0 270 270 0
35 22 2 1-3 1-1 2 0 272 270 -2
36 31 3 1-3 2-2 4 6 276 276 0
37 14 2 1-2 1-1 2 3 278 279 1
38 9 1 1-3 1-1 2 3 280 282 2
39 10 1 2-3 1-1 2 0 282 282 0
40 8 1 2-3 1-1 2 0 284 282 -2
41 18 2 2-3 2-2 4 6 288 288 0
42 25 3 1-3 1-1 2 3 290 291 1
43 23 2 1-2 1-1 2 3 292 294 2
44 0 0 1-3 1-1 2 0 294 294 0
45 8 1 0 0 294 294 0
46 36 3 2-3 1-1 2 3 296 297 1
47 4 1 1-2 1-1 2 3 298 300 2
48 15 2 2-3 1-1 2 3 300 303 3
49 2 1 1-3 1-1 2 3 302 306 4
50 9 1 2-3 1-1 2 0 304 306 2
51 25 3 2-3 2-2 4 6 308 312 4
52 16 2 1-2 1-1 2 3 310 315 5
53 18 2 1-3 1-1 2 0 312 315 3
54 36 3 1-3 2-2 4 6 316 321 5
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57
58
59
60

61
62


Compare profits at spin 52, 11  or 5, look at the out total 661 against 315,  a smaller out lay but a profit

[nottophammer]

So in rng spins UK bookies
You know i bet till 20th spin -£56. Well KTF got me back to plus.
If stayed betting the  Dont Knock it till you try it method, ends in plus

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spin #span doz doz-doz to bet +1/-1 stake return total  out total return Running total
1 27 3
2 19 2 1-2 1-1 2 3 2 3 1
3 20 2 1-3 1-1 2 0 4 3 -1
4 15 2 1-3 2-2 4 0 8 3 -5
5 18 2 1-3 3-3 6 0 14 3 -11
6 15 2 1-3 4-4 8 0 22 3 -19
7 4 1 1-3 5-5 10 15 32 18 -14
8 0 0 2-3 5-5 10 0 42 18 -24
9 17 2 0 0 0 42 18 -24
10 23 2 1-3 6-6 12 0 54 18 -36
11 20 2 1-3 7-7 14 0 68 18 -50
12 21 2 1-3 8-8 16 0 84 18 -66
13 5 1 1-3 9-9 18 27 102 45 -57
14 19 2 2-3 9-9 18 27 120 72 -48
15 22 2 1-3 8-8 16 0 136 72 -64
16 12 1 1-3 9-9 18 27 154 99 -55
17 24 2 2-3 9-9 18 27 172 126 -46
18 21 2 1-3 8-8 16 0 188 126 -62
19 27 3 1-3 9-9 18 27 206 153 -53
20 12 1 1-2 9-9 18 27 224 180 -44 stopped
21 2 1 2-3 8-8 16 0 240 180 -60 started KTF
22 34 3 2-3 9-9 18 27 258 207 -51
23 7 1 1-2 9-9 18 27 276 234 -42
24 21 2 2-3 8-8 16 24 292 258 -34
25 36 3 1-3 8-8 16 24 308 282 -26
26 14 2 1-2 7-7 14 21 322 303 -19
27 13 2 1-3 7-7 14 0 336 303 -33
28 5 1 1-3 8-8 16 24 352 327 -25
29 0 0 2-3 8-8 16 0 368 327 -41
30 32 3 0 0 0 368 327 -41
31 12 1 1-2 9-9 18 27 386 354 -32
32 29 3 2-3 9-9 18 27 404 381 -23
33 9 1 1-2 8-8 16 24 420 405 -15
34 30 3 2-3 8-8 16 24 436 429 -7
35 20 2 1-2 7-7 14 21 450 450 0
36 5 1 1-3 7-7 14 21 464 471 7
37 30 3 2-3 6-6 12 18 476 489 13
38 16 2 1-2 6-6 12 18 488 507 19
39 10 1 1-3 5-5 10 15 498 522 24
40 27 3 2-3 5-5 10 15 508 537 29
41
42
43
44


[RouletteGhost]

little confused to how some play this

but as i understand it

bet against the previous dozen, if last spin was doz 2 next spin bet dozens 1 and 3

+1 on a loss -1 on a win

[Celticknits]

little confused to how some play this

but as i understand it

bet against the previous dozen, if last spin was doz 2 next spin bet dozens 1 and 3

+1 on a loss -1 on a win

RG

It is being played against the last dowen, with the last dozen, against the last 2, with the last two and all the combinations therein.
I had great luck betting with the last dozen and against the dozen 3 back.

Reminds me of grassroots.

Regarding the progression +1/-1 and parlay the first win after a loss.
If you reach new high or get to the  old high drop back to 1-1.

Hope this helps.

-Celtic

[RouletteGhost]

RG

It is being played against the last dowen, with the last dozen, against the last 2, with the last two and all the combinations therein.
I had great luck betting with the last dozen and against the dozen 3 back.

Reminds me of grassroots.

Regarding the progression +1/-1 and parlay the first win after a loss.
If you reach new high or get to the  old high drop back to 1-1.

Hope this helps.

-Celtic

so your playing the dozen last hit and the dozen furthest back? in which case at the same time you are betting on a streak AND for the sleeper to wake

[The Force]

There's always something new around here. I'm actually going to try this one though, it sounds very doable and very profitable.

Love the chart too.

[Wally Gator]

You know i bet till 20th spin

Notto, I thought you begin KTF after 10 spins, not 20???  Great job on this one, it's a keeper for the progression.

[Celticknits]

Notto, I thought you begin KTF after 10 spins, not 20???  Great job on this one, it's a keeper for the progression.

He could use the last 10 of 20 spins for KTF but I think he is looking at how Dont Knock It is going and considering the trot on the 20 spins so far to enter into KTF.

-Celtic

[nottophammer]

Sorry, the (You know i bet till 20th spin) was playing the double dozens, at the 20th spin i started to play KTF,which i was watching and had repeated,so i was playing KTF for the rest of the spins. I thought i'd show even thou i was down if i had carried on the win came.
Celticknits nearly right i was playing dont knock it and down at the 20th spin,this was when i see KTF was could to bet for a non hit.

So in rng spins UK bookies
You know i bet till 20th spin -£56. Well KTF got me back to plus.
If stayed betting the  Dont Knock it till you try it method, ends in plus

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spin #span doz doz-doz to bet +1/-1 stake return total  out total return Running total
1 27 3
2 19 2 1-2 1-1 2 3 2 3 1
3 20 2 1-3 1-1 2 0 4 3 -1
4 15 2 1-3 2-2 4 0 8 3 -5
5 18 2 1-3 3-3 6 0 14 3 -11
6 15 2 1-3 4-4 8 0 22 3 -19
7 4 1 1-3 5-5 10 15 32 18 -14
8 0 0 2-3 5-5 10 0 42 18 -24
9 17 2 0 0 0 42 18 -24
10 23 2 1-3 6-6 12 0 54 18 -36
11 20 2 1-3 7-7 14 0 68 18 -50
12 21 2 1-3 8-8 16 0 84 18 -66
13 5 1 1-3 9-9 18 27 102 45 -57
14 19 2 2-3 9-9 18 27 120 72 -48
15 22 2 1-3 8-8 16 0 136 72 -64
16 12 1 1-3 9-9 18 27 154 99 -55
17 24 2 2-3 9-9 18 27 172 126 -46
18 21 2 1-3 8-8 16 0 188 126 -62
19 27 3 1-3 9-9 18 27 206 153 -53
20 12 1 1-2 9-9 18 27 224 180 -44 stopped
21 2 1 2-3 8-8 16 0 240 180 -60 started KTF
22 34 3 2-3 9-9 18 27 258 207 -51
23 7 1 1-2 9-9 18 27 276 234 -42
24 21 2 2-3 8-8 16 24 292 258 -34
25 36 3 1-3 8-8 16 24 308 282 -26
26 14 2 1-2 7-7 14 21 322 303 -19
27 13 2 1-3 7-7 14 0 336 303 -33
28 5 1 1-3 8-8 16 24 352 327 -25
29 0 0 2-3 8-8 16 0 368 327 -41
30 32 3 0 0 0 368 327 -41
31 12 1 1-2 9-9 18 27 386 354 -32
32 29 3 2-3 9-9 18 27 404 381 -23
33 9 1 1-2 8-8 16 24 420 405 -15
34 30 3 2-3 8-8 16 24 436 429 -7
35 20 2 1-2 7-7 14 21 450 450 0
36 5 1 1-3 7-7 14 21 464 471 7
37 30 3 2-3 6-6 12 18 476 489 13
38 16 2 1-2 6-6 12 18 488 507 19
39 10 1 1-3 5-5 10 15 498 522 24
40 27 3 2-3 5-5 10 15 508 537 29
41
42
43
44


[tuddilue]

Whatever the last dozen was to show bet the other 2

Parlay the wins

Right?

Best use hit and run on this sucker

Is it like this you are playing this system?

If that is the case what do you do when streaks come around? I mean the dozen is not always choppy.

Or am I missing something?

[denzie]

Got it 

[RouletteGhost]

Plus 1 minus 1 on double dozen against last dozen hit can get scarey if a dozen streaks.....

[denzie]

Plus 1 minus 1 on double dozen against last dozen hit can get scarey if a dozen streaks.....

Yeah that's for sure. I like my parlay bit better. But for sure it will bust some day.
REALLY SURE .
1-1, 1-1, 2-2, 3-3, 4-4, 5-5, 8-8, 12-12 , 18-18 , ....
Don't get scared. ..it's casino money. Reset on a new high

And on a repeat we wait till it stops. This will help a lot

[nottophammer]

Plus 1 minus 1 on double dozen against last dozen hit can get scarey if a dozen streaks.....

its the parley part that makes it interesting, getting back to starting bank roll or back to the last high in profit.
You can see it can handle its self, but you need to again, make decisions.