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Blue Angel's HG (Fallacious)

Started by thelaw, Feb 23, 09:17 PM 2016

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Big EZ

Quote from: Steve on Mar 01, 06:58 PM 2016
Download the file (right click and save): :.roulettephysics.com/files/1and2.txt

1 is red, 2 is black.

Then search for any sequence you want. There are over 4,00,000 spins in the file.

Thank you
Quitting while your ahead is not the same as quitting

Steve

Why dont we just test the working principle for bet selection. And ask the question: does the method of backing sleepers change the odds that the sleepers will somehow come back and become hot numbers?

NOOOOO. And thats my point.

So if the odds of winning havent changed, what's left? A martingale.

It's worse than reinventing a broken wheel. You just need to see it for what it is.

RX testing will show the same thing. I'd love for someone to code this in RX and publish the file.
"The only way to beat roulette is by increasing the accuracy of predictions"
Roulettephysics.com ← Professional roulette tips
Roulette-computers.com ← Hidden electronics that predicts the winning number
Roulettephysics.com/roulette-strategy ← Why most systems lose

denzie

Quote from: Steve on Mar 01, 07:58 PM 2016I'd love for someone to code this in RX and publish the file.

We all would like to see that  :love:
As spins roll off our predictions get better

MrJ

Quote from: Steve on Mar 01, 07:58 PM 2016
Why dont we just test the working principle for bet selection. And ask the question: does the method of backing sleepers change the odds that the sleepers will somehow come back and become hot numbers?

NOOOOO. And thats my point.

So if the odds of winning havent changed, what's left? A martingale.

It's worse than reinventing a broken wheel. You just need to see it for what it is.

RX testing will show the same thing. I'd love for someone to code this in RX and publish the file.

See? Doesn't it just kill ya to say nothing? (lol)

Ken
Watch us big doggs, the MEN, play at a REAL casino, on a REAL table. All we ask is that you stay out of our way. The rest? Bots, airball, RNG...that's more for the Kitty Kat Klub. Its the big doggs and the kittens!! Winning is not an event, it's a process and it takes YEARS and YEARS to master > link:://:.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/2014127/rs_560x415-140227131132-1024.bulldog-kittens3.jpg... To be great, you have to be willing to be mocked, hated and misunderstood.

Steve

Yes Ken. It goes in circles. But I recognize I probably wouldnt have "gotten it" either. But now that I do understand it, I dont know what I was thinking. I'm sure I've said that too, many times before.
"The only way to beat roulette is by increasing the accuracy of predictions"
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Roulette-computers.com ← Hidden electronics that predicts the winning number
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RouletteGhost

all that matters is this guy beat 1 million spins

we need to know can it be repeated? is it playable? and how long to secure enough profit to end for the day?
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

MrJ

Quote from: RouletteGhost on Mar 01, 08:25 PM 2016
all that matters is this guy beat 1 million spins

we need to know can it be repeated? is it playable? and how long to secure enough profit to end for the day?

Ok, I'm notorious for not reading every post, indulge me. How do we/you know he beat 1 million spins?

Ken
Watch us big doggs, the MEN, play at a REAL casino, on a REAL table. All we ask is that you stay out of our way. The rest? Bots, airball, RNG...that's more for the Kitty Kat Klub. Its the big doggs and the kittens!! Winning is not an event, it's a process and it takes YEARS and YEARS to master > link:://:.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/2014127/rs_560x415-140227131132-1024.bulldog-kittens3.jpg... To be great, you have to be willing to be mocked, hated and misunderstood.

MrJ

Quote from: MrJ on Mar 01, 08:30 PM 2016
Ok, I'm notorious for not reading every post, indulge me. How do we/you know he beat 1 million spins?

Ken

Please dont tell me, he TOLD YOU SO?

Ken
Watch us big doggs, the MEN, play at a REAL casino, on a REAL table. All we ask is that you stay out of our way. The rest? Bots, airball, RNG...that's more for the Kitty Kat Klub. Its the big doggs and the kittens!! Winning is not an event, it's a process and it takes YEARS and YEARS to master > link:://:.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/2014127/rs_560x415-140227131132-1024.bulldog-kittens3.jpg... To be great, you have to be willing to be mocked, hated and misunderstood.

RouletteGhost

RouletteGhost is no longer here to butt heads. RouletteGhost is here for one reason and one reason only. to test. to test. to see what works. and win.
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

MrJ

Quote from: RouletteGhost on Mar 01, 08:52 PM 2016
RouletteGhost is no longer here to butt heads. RouletteGhost is here for one reason and one reason only. to test. to test. to see what works. and win.

I respect that 100% !! Can I say one last thing? (maybe second last thing)

Make sure your testing matches up perfectly with ACTUAL play, thats all I want to say, deuces.

Ken
Watch us big doggs, the MEN, play at a REAL casino, on a REAL table. All we ask is that you stay out of our way. The rest? Bots, airball, RNG...that's more for the Kitty Kat Klub. Its the big doggs and the kittens!! Winning is not an event, it's a process and it takes YEARS and YEARS to master > link:://:.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/2014127/rs_560x415-140227131132-1024.bulldog-kittens3.jpg... To be great, you have to be willing to be mocked, hated and misunderstood.

RouletteGhost

Quote from: MrJ on Mar 01, 08:57 PM 2016
I respect that 100% !! Can I say one last thing? (maybe second last thing)

Make sure your testing matched up perfectly with ACTUAL play, thats all I want to say, deuces.

Ken

i agree. thats why grassroots is my personal HG
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

MrJ

I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work.

Thomas A. Edison (or Ken?)
Watch us big doggs, the MEN, play at a REAL casino, on a REAL table. All we ask is that you stay out of our way. The rest? Bots, airball, RNG...that's more for the Kitty Kat Klub. Its the big doggs and the kittens!! Winning is not an event, it's a process and it takes YEARS and YEARS to master > link:://:.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/2014127/rs_560x415-140227131132-1024.bulldog-kittens3.jpg... To be great, you have to be willing to be mocked, hated and misunderstood.

thelaw

Update......The Plot Thickens!!!

"I saw lots of hue and cry over the progression suggested by Blue Angel which I like to call "Delayed Martingale". i have created a tracker for the same for everyone to see. Anybody is free to post/attach the tracker to all relevant forums as I do not write in other forums. It tanks so badly that eventually, it will need infinite chips and unlimited table limits like regular martingale. I have attached a regular session and an RNG page where anybody can see infinite 10k spins sessions with this way.
I do not have any enmity with either Blue Angel or Nickmsi as both have been my friends and they have every right to suggest methods as I or anybody do. I just want to show all that just delaying the martingale by playing in spans of 37 spins, doesn't make a winner by itself."

I could not attach excel directly here so uploaded it on file upload site: link:://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=00136778777113954514

link:://:.GF/threads/anybody-think-such-bad-streak-can-be-won.4269/

-Albalaha

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And then.......

"Updated report from 10000 spins from random.org

After 1567 spins the total is +158 units

Bet never exceed 16 units

Max drawdown 161 units

I will upload this excel file when I'm done with it."

-Blue Angel


I think that this was in response to a challenge from another poster, so he's catching up from a few days ago. The original poster claimed that the method failed with these same numbers, and BA has been updating this every couple of days.

You sir.......are a monster!!!

Blue_Angel

BETTING ALWAYS ON RED / FRENCH ROULETTE WITH "LE PARTAGE" RULE

S=Spin  R=Result T=Total   
S           R            T

1          -1          -1
2          -1          -2
3 W       +1         -1
4          -1          -2
5 W       +1         -1
6          -1          -2
7 W      +1         -1
8          -1          -2
9          -1          -3
10 W     +1         -2
11         -1          -3
12 W     +1         -2
13         -1          -3
14/ZERO -0.5      -3.5
15         -1        -4.5
16 W     +1       -3.5
17         -1        -4.5
18         -1        -5.5
19         -1        -6.5
20         -1        -7.5
21 W     +1       -6.5
22         -1        -7.5
23 W     +1       -6.5
24         -1        -7.5
25         -1        -8.5
26         -1        -9.5
27         -1        -10.5 
28         -1        -11.5
29 W      +1       -10.5
30         -1        -11.5
31 W      +1       -10.5
32 W      +1       -9.5
33         -1        -10.5
34         -1        -11.5
35 W      +1       -10.5
36 W      +1       -9.5
37 W      +1       -8.5
38 W      +2       -6.5  BET RAISES TO 2 UNITS
39         -2        -8.5
40         -2        -10.5
41         -2        -12.5
42 W     +2       -10.5
43         -2        -12.5
44         -2        -14.5
45 W     +2       -12.5
46 W     +2       -10.5
47         -2        -12.5
48         -2        -14.5
49         -2        -16.5
50         -2        -18.5
51         -2        -20.5
52 W     +2       -18.5
53         -2        -20.5
54         -2        -22.5   
55 W     +2       -20.5
56         -2        -22.5
57         -2        -24.5
58 W     +2       -22.5
59         -2        -24.5
60         -2        -26.5
61         -2        -28.5
62 W     +2       -26.5
63         -2        -28.5
64         -2        -30.5
65 W     +2       -28.5
66         -2        -30.5
67         -2        -32.5   
68 W     +2       -30.5
69 W     +2       -28.5
70         -2        -30.5
71 W     +2       -28.5
72         -2        -30.5
73         -2        -32.5
74         -2        -34.5
75 W     +4       -30.5   BET RAISES TO 4 UNITS
76         -4        -34.5
77 W     +4       -30.5
78         -4        -34.5
79         -4        -38.5
80 W     +4       -34.5
81         -4        -38.5
82         -4        -42.5
83         -4        -46.5
84         -4        -50.5
85         -4        -52.5
86         -4        -56.5
87         -4        -60.5
88         -4        -64.5
89         -4        -68.5   
90 W     +4       -64.5
91         -4        -68.5
92 W     +4       -64.5
93         -4        -68.5
94         -4        -72.5
95 W     +4        -68.5
96        -4         -72.5
97 W     +4        -68.5
98        -4         -72.5
99        -4         -76.5
100      -4         -80.5
101 W    +4        -76.5
102 W    +4        -72.5
103      -4         -76.5
104 W    +4        -72.5
105/ZERO -2     -74.5
106       -4        -78.5
107       -4        -82.5
108       -4        -86.5
109       -4        -90.5
110       -4        -94.5
111       -4        -98.5
112       -8        -106.5  BET RAISES TO 8 UNITS
113       -8        -114.5
114 W     +8       -106.5
115       -8        -114.5
116       -8        -122.5   
117 W     +8       -114.5
118       -8        -122.5
119 W     +8       -114.5
120       -8        -122.5
121       -8        -130.5
122 W     +8       -122.5
123       -8        -130.5
124       -8        -138.5
125       -8        -146.5
126       -8        -154.5
127       -8        -162.5
128 W     +8       -154.5
129 W     +8       -146.5
130 W     +8       -138.5
131 W     +8       -130.5
132       -8        -138.5
133       -8        -146.5
134 W     +8       -138.5
135       -8        -146.5
136       -8        -154.5
137       -8        -162.5
138 W     +8       -154.5
139       -8        -162.5
140 W     +8       -154.5
141       -8        -162.5
142       -8        -170.5
143 W     +8       -162.5
144       -8        -170.5
145 W     +8       -162.5
146 W     +8       -154.5
147 W     +8       -146.5
148       -8        -154.5
149 W     +16     -138.5  BET RAISES TO 16 UNITS
150 W     +16      -122.5
151       -16       -138.5
152       -16       -154.5
153/ZERO -8     -162.5
154 W     +16      -146.5
155 W     +16      -130.5
156       -16       -146.5
157       -16       -162.5
158 W     +16      -146.5
159       -16       -162.5
160       -16       -178.5
161       -16       -194.5
162       -16       -210.5
163 W     +16      -194.5
164 W     +16      -178.5
165       -16       -194.5
166       -16       -210.5
167       -16       -226.5
168 W     +16      -210.5
169       -16      -226.5
170       -16       -242.5   
171 W     +16      -226.5
172 W     +16      -210.5
173       -16       -226.5
174 W     +16      -210.5
175 W     +16      -194.5
176       -16       -210.5
177       -16       -226.5
178       -16       -242.5
179       -16       -258.5
180 W     +16      -242.5
181       -16       -258.5
182       -16       -274.5
183       -16       -290.5
184 W     +16      -274.5
185       -16       -290.5
186/ZERO -16    -306.5     BET RAISES TO 32 UNITS
187 W     +32      -274.5
188       -32       -306.5
189       -32       -338.5
190/ZERO -16    -354.5
191       -32       -386.5
192 W    +32      -354.5
193 W    +32      -322.5
194       -32       -354.5
195       -32       -386.5
196 W   +32      -354.5
197       -32       -386.5
198       -32       -418.5
199/ZERO -16    -434.5
200          -32    -466.5
201     10      -32   -498.5
202     6        -32   -530.5 
203     14      +32   -498.5       
204     21      +32   -466.5         
205     30      +32   -434.5         
206     11      -32    -466.5         
207     12      +32   -434.5         
208     10      -32    -466.5       
209     22      -32    -498.5       
210     34      +32   -466.5       
211     10      -32    -498.5       
212     16      +32   -466.5       
213     0       -16     -482.5     
214     14      +32   -450.5     
215     8        -32    -482.5     
216     34      +32   -450.5     
217     18      +32   -418.5     
218     19      +32   -386.5     
219     25      +32   -354.5     
220     35      -32    -386.5     
221     34      +32   -354.5     
222     29      -32    -386.5     
223     16      +64   -322.5     BET RAISES TO 64 UNITS
224     21      +64   -258.5     
225     12      +64   -194.5     
226     30      +64   -130.5     
227     9        +64    -66.5     
228     34      +64    -2.5     
229     32      +64    +61.5     BET RESETS TO 1 UNIT

Blue_Angel

For the first cycle of 37 spins the SD is 2.23

For the first 2 cycles (74 spins) the SD is 3.32

For the first 3 cycles (111 spins) the SD is 4.36

For the first 4 cycles (148 spins) the SD is 4.69

For the first 5 cycles (185 spins) the SD is 5.10

For the first 6 cycles (222 spins) the SD is 5.29

The net profit of 61.5 is being achieved on the 229th spin and at that time the SD was 4.94

The maximum drawdown was on 202nd spin with -530.5 and 5.50 SD

87 wins 37.99% / 142 losses 62.01% at 229th spin which made the breakthrough.

An open challenge for everyone to find a worse sequence than this one!

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