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Questions to the VB Guys
« on: April 06, 2016, 07:26:46 AM »
Hi guys,

i have some questions you may answer:

1. i am playing the predicted number with 4 neighbours either side.
do you play more numbers? the famous german "kesselgucker sachse" said, that he sometime play up to 24 numbers. if i would play 18 numbers, the hitrate increases.
but sometimes you dont get a hit within 4 spins. see nr. 2.

2. do you use a progression?
most of the time playing 9 numbers you get the hit before the 4th betting round. sometimes it takes up to 10 spins.
sachse told me, that he had sessions, where he dont get a hit until spin 15. do you flatbet or use a light progression? which one?

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Re: Questions to the VB Guys
« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2016, 08:38:26 AM »
How you predict the number?   :)
Bet the numbers that hit above average! !

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Re: Questions to the VB Guys
« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2016, 10:38:19 AM »
1. It depends on your jump charts and how broad peaks are. Usually you should bet the full peak width if you are sure of peak location, or more in the peak centers if peaks are less stable for whatever reason. Betting too many numbers will reduce your edge.

2. If you are sure of your edge, progression can be great. But dont be too aggressive. Just use a mild progression.

24 numbers is not unreasonable in theory, but betting them all is only viable on touchscreen roulette, with neighbor bets. And only if the charts indicate is is ok.

Denzie, take your pick. There are many vb techniques. A simple one is at roulettephysics.com

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Re: Questions to the VB Guys
« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2016, 10:40:57 AM »
A VB guy once asked me to check the history on my airball machines

Snap photos

And see what sectors hit the most
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Re: Questions to the VB Guys
« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2016, 07:37:41 PM »
RFMaxx,

It depends on the drop distribution and the ball bounce/scatter plot.  There is not an optimum width that can be used on all wheels.  On some wheels you'll find that your ideal width is only 3 wide, on others you'll find that 12 is best. 

If this is a live wheel, then you don't want to be rushing to lay down a 12 wide arc of connected numbers.  The casino will quickly shut you down.  On live wheels you're better off leaving some gaps and betting far fewer numbers at a higher unit, in addition to a limited number random camouflage numbers...which are bet at lower units.   

Here's a short cut to determining how wide your betting arcs should be:  Simply record your predicted and the lands on a sheet of paper, then graph the yardage off target.  After you've collected enough data, the optimum betting width arc will clearly show on your graph. 
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Re: Questions to the VB Guys
« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2016, 08:40:03 PM »
1. It depends on your jump charts and how broad peaks are. Usually you should bet the full peak width if you are sure of peak location, or more in the peak centers if peaks are less stable for whatever reason. Betting too many numbers will reduce your edge.

2. If you are sure of your edge, progression can be great. But dont be too aggressive. Just use a mild progression.

24 numbers is not unreasonable in theory, but betting them all is only viable on touchscreen roulette, with neighbor bets. And only if the charts indicate is is ok.yes best place to sit, place chips easier than at the table, like Turner said dont get the stinky armpits

Denzie, take your pick. There are many vb techniques. A simple one is at roulettephysics.com

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Re: Questions to the VB Guys
« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2016, 08:40:03 PM »

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Re: Questions to the VB Guys
« Reply #6 on: April 08, 2016, 08:41:09 PM »
RFMaxx,

It depends on the drop distribution and the ball bounce/scatter plot.  There is not an optimum width that can be used on all wheels.  On some wheels you'll find that your ideal width is only 3 wide, on others you'll find that 12 is best. 

If this is a live wheel, then you don't want to be rushing to lay down a 12 wide arc of connected numbers.  The casino will quickly shut you down.  On live wheels you're better off leaving some gaps and betting far fewer numbers at a higher unit, in addition to a limited number random camouflage numbers...which are bet at lower units.   

Here's a short cut to determining how wide your betting arcs should be:  Simply record your predicted and the lands on a sheet of paper, then graph the yardage off target.  After you've collected enough data, the optimum betting width arc will clearly show on your graph.

What about cw/ccw

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Re: Questions to the VB Guys
« Reply #7 on: April 08, 2016, 08:47:03 PM »
Some data can be shared between directions, but usually you keep different data sets for each direction.

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Re: Questions to the VB Guys
« Reply #8 on: April 09, 2016, 02:45:39 AM »
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What about cw/ccw

Usually one direction has a much better drop than the other.  You need to segregate the data.



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