Why random results are NOT independent

[Blue_Angel]

''The math-guys will also tell you that you cannot look at a string of sequences no matter how long or short, and that if you consider the effect of anything more than one roll at a time, it is just utter nonsense and complete foolishness. 

To their way of thinking, you must restrict your view to each separate roll as though nothing came before it and nothing will come after it. 
It is with this myopic and narrow-minded view that they want you to appraise any and all bets, and they will tell you quite candidly that to do anything contrary to that advice would be quite foolhardy on your part.

However, some astute craps players including myself; look at the game as a whole.  Instead of just considering individual and independent rolls, we look at how they are strung together.
We look at the big picture of trends and streaks instead of the minutia of each separate roll.
That being the case, we consider the overall expectation of the 7, and integrate it into a workable betting-method.''

[The General]

Blue,

Can you show us some math that supports their wildly absurd claims? 

[Blue_Angel]

I did degree level Maths in my HND Electronics and Electrical Engineering

Maths interests me. I read a lot of Astophysics and Quantum Mechanics type books. A good knowledge of Maths is essential or you get lost in that genre of literature.

I don't know why you describe me as a Maths Expert. Perhaps it was sarcasm.

I hope I didn't use too many big words in my little rambling soliloquy

Because you have a tendency to correct people, so you remind me someone who knows better than anyone and wants to get them straight.
Like a teacher is doing in class, but people have the right to be wrong, to do mistakes and learn from them.
There is no point to pretend that you are good when you aren't, everyone is different and needs to express his individuality in his own way, there's no point of creating an entire population of clones and robots which would do and say as we please.

[Turner]

There are a lot of naive craps players as well.

No Shit....

Probably why the casino set half the table to Big 6/8, The Field and Proposition bets with eye watering house edges

Nice big pass line and Come, tiny little dont pass bar and dont come, microscopic un-named place bet boxes

[RouletteGhost]

I love playing bubble craps

To date i am up big

I hit a 12 on the field with a few hundred on it

Double pay

Was glorious.

[Turner]

Because you have a tendency to correct people, so you remind me someone who knows better than anyone and wants to get them straight.
Like a teacher is doing in class, but people have the right to be wrong, to do mistakes and learn from them.
There is no point to pretend that you are good when you aren't, everyone is different and needs to express his individuality in his own way, there's no point of creating an entire population of clones and robots which would do and say as we please.

Oh Dear....Someone got out of bed the wrong side this morning

[Blue_Angel]

Blue,

Can you show us some math that supports their wildly absurd claims? 

If you are looking for answers, then look at your past results.
What you see there, is it possible to go on forever?
If yes, then that's your answer, because if previous performance couldn't affect the future one, you would be a loser and not pro.
You have to have some consistency in your results, with everything possible such consistency would be impossible.
Since you are not influencing the ball with telekinesis or your hands, or any other parts of your body, you are predicting.
Your predictions based on past results, your confidence lies on the knowledge that you have done it before and you can do it again, all these would be impossible if everything could happen and there was not a degree of consistency.
Why are you looking for answers when you already know them??

[The General]

Blue Angel,

I'd really like to see you back up your wild claims by showing some logic and some math.

I know that XVV, Gizmotron, and YOU are all system sellers... and/or serving for donations/investors... for your systems... and you're all making some rather absurd and unsubstantiated claims regarding your systems.    Often times you all use words and phrases that have been cut and pasted, out of context, from  science and market articles in vein attempts to dazzle gullible readers.  All under the protection of your blogs...where you can have any difficult questions or criticism instantly removed via moderation.
So now I'd like to see some real substance from you.  Something that doesn't lOOK like it's just part of a SCAM.  In other words, show us some math!

Sincerely,

The General

[Blue_Angel]

In other words, show us some math!

If you want to see math you are looking in the wrong place my friend, I'm not here to educate you, you may believe what you want but that doesn't change a tiny bit of my reality.
The real deal is by using a method, not by selling it.

[Turner]

Ill be frank with you

If you keep talking in terms of build-up....like "why random does this" and "why random does that" it looks like you are pre loading some kind of  sell.

If you are legit, and want to share a system, just post the rules, or it just looks like marketing

Your audience here is educated. Not naive. You cant ply them like dough into a "wow" frenzie to the point where they are putty in your hands.

(Too many metaphors)

Just post a method. Lets see if it has an edge.

Proof of the pudding is in the eating (sorry...another one)

[RouletteGhost]

never pay for a system or strategy

the only thing id pay for is coding

[Turner]

the only thing id pay for is coding

and Beer!

[RouletteGhost]

and Beer!

as i sip a wonderful microbrew 9% alcohol by volume imperial IPA

[BellagioOwner]

However, Priyanka seems to have pioneered a method of not only killing dispersion, but also gaining edge using Non-Random components that creates dependency so that bet selections in certain situations no longer break even but begin to tilt towards profit.

What he says seems to make sense, and I've glimpsed this "edge" with my own testing...

So at the end of the day, it's all independent and random - unless we consider Priyanka's Non-Random methods.

Priyanka can go one step further with her methods.

So what does Priyanks says and what are his/her methods? (You don't even specify gender. You either use He or She at times). You say that you have glimpsed this "edge" with your own testing. So how is this edge generated? What does  Priyanka's non-random methods/approach say that differ from all the other methods since you have glimpsed them?

[BellagioOwner]

A player should play with "blacks" in order to worth bothering.

Why "Blacks" are superior to "Reds"? Except if I didn't understand something or I missed something written before