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EC MATRIX

Started by ego, Oct 29, 01:35 PM 2016

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ego


I have post about this Before and have a winning method based upon this methodology.
All dozen methods can be playes using the EC.

You know dozen, where two dozen can hit for 10 15 20 25 30 times in a row.
Now you can get the same random distribution with EC with same probability or odds 1 in 3.

Singles is dozen 1
Series of two is dozen 2
Series of Three or higher is dozen 3

Now when you compare dozen random flow with EC random flow you get the same results in the short term. Some clever member might argue that you get 1000 singles and 500 series of two and 250 series of Three, but with random fluctaion and variance that is not the case in short term, but would apply if you make larger statistical sample.

I can play any existing dozen system or method and apply same for EC.
EC distribution with dozen odds:

1
1
1 dozen 3
2
1 dozen 1
2 dozen 1
1 dozen 1
2 dozen 1 - strike 5 times
2 dozen 2
1
1 dozen 2
2
1 dozen 1 - strike 7 times
1
1 dozen 3
2
1 dozen 1
1
1 dozen 3
2
1 dozen 1
1
1 dozen 3
1
1
1
2
1 dozen 1
2 dozen 1 - strike 8 times
2 dozen 2
1
1 dozen 2 - strike 4 times
2
2
2 dozen 3
2
2
2
1
1 dozen 2
2
2 dozen 2
1
1 dozen 2
2
2 dozen 2
1
1
1 dozen 3 - strike 8 times
1
2
1 dozen 1
1 dozen 2
2
1 dozen 1 - strike 3 times
1
1 dozen 3
1
2
1 dozen 1
2 dozen 1 - strike 4 times
2 dozen 2
1
1 dozen 2
2
1 dozen 1
2 dozen 1
1 dozen 1
2
2 dozen 2
1
2 dozen 1
1 dozen 1
1 dozen 2
2
1 dozen 1
2 dozen 1 - strike 13 times
2
2 dozen 3
1
1
1 dozen 3
2
2
2 dozen 3
1
2 dozen 1 - strike 6 times
2 dozen 2
1
2 dozen 1
1 dozen 1
1 dozen 2
2
2 dozen 2 - strike 6 times
1
1
1 dozen 3
1
2
2 dozen 3
2
2
1
1 dozen 2
2
2 dozen 2
1
1 dozen 2
2
2
2 dozen 3
1
1 dozen 2 - strike 9 times
2
1 dozen 1 - strike 2 times
1
1 dozen 3
2
2
2 dozen 3
2
1
2 dozen 1
1 dozen 1
2 dozen 1 - strike 6 times
2
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ego

1 in 2 with 1 in 3 odds

Dozen 1 = Single
Dozen 2 = Series of two
Dozen 3 = Series of Three and higher

You can backtrack the random bits and you will see that the EC produce the same distribution using this methodology as the dozen does...
I will now just compare dozen methods that can be played in the same way using the EC

How to play one Dozen or one Column

You track the dozen or column for 6 spins and write them down so you get a line.

1
3
2
2
3
1

Now you can start to play and you will follow that line for 6 times and bet that the same will occur, 2 in a row.

12
32
21
22 win 2 of the same.
3
1

Now you have to complete the group of 18 outcomes so you continue to write down the  numbers in the same order as before

121
321
211
221
31
11

Keep doing that until you have a complete group of 18 outcomes whit the principal of 1/3 - like this:

121
321
211
221
313
113

Now you can start over again and track the first 6 outcomes and list them like this:

1
1
3
3
2
3

When you have six you start to play after that line.
Now the first bet is 1 the second is 1 and the third is 3 and you hope to get 2 of the same.

Lets say you didn't get 2 of the same and the line look like this:

12
12
21
32
23
12

Now the bet selection change.
Now you want to get 3 different results.
That they alternate like 231 or 312.

So lets take a look at the line again and if we have
12 then we will bet 3 or if we got 31 we would bet 2.

122
122
211
321 win its alternate.
23
12

So there is 2 different ways you will try to gain a profit.
After we have the first line of 6 outcomes then we will try to get 2 of the same whit the second line for 6 attempts.
If the second line loses then we will try to get a alternate whit the third line, like 123 213 312 for 6 times.

Here you have a grahp Spilbank Hamburg 2005 01 01 Tabel 1

This is how it looks when you tracking the groups whit the principal of 1/3 whit 18 outcomes.

SPIELBANK HAMBURG 2005 01 01 TABEL 1

231
113
213
221
323
213

How to play one Dozen or one Column.

You track the dozen or column for 6 spins and write them down so you get a line.

1
3
2
2
3
1

Now you can start to play and you will follow that line for 6 times and bet that the same will occur, 2 in a row.

12
32
21
22 win 2 of the same.
3
1

Now you have to complete the group of 18 outcomes so you continue to write down the  numbers in the same order as before

121
321
211
221
31
11

Keep doing that until you have a complete group of 18 outcomes whit the principal of 1/3 - like this:

121
321
211
221
313
113

Now you can start over again and track the first 6 outcomes and list them like this:

1
1
3
3
2
3

When you have six you start to play after that line.
Now the first bet is 1 the second is 1 and the third is 3 and you hope to get 2 of the same.

Lets say you didn't get 2 of the same and the line look like this:

12
12
21
32
23
12

Now the bet selection change.
Now you want to get 3 different results.
That they alternate like 231 or 312.

So lets take a look at the line again and if we have
12 then we will bet 3 or if we got 31 we would bet 2.

122
122
211
321 win its alternate.
23
12

So there is 2 different ways you will try to gain a profit.
After we have the first line of 6 outcomes then we will try to get 2 of the same whit the second line for 6 attempts.
If the second line loses then we will try to get a alternate whit the third line, like 123 213 312 for 6 times.
One other option or alternative is to aim for 121 212 or 323 insted of 123 and so on ...

Here you have a grahp Spilbank Hamburg 2005 01 01 Tabel 1

This is how it looks when you tracking the groups whit the principal of 1/3 whit 18 outcomes.

231
113
213
221
323
213

How to play the EC method using the dozen method above

Here we can make the samepel smaller with variant 1 ...

331 W
221 W
331 W
112 W

This is how the random bits look like for the clustering sequense above.

1
1
1 3
2
2 2
1
1
1 3
2
1 1
1
1
1 3
2
2 2
1
1
1
1 3
2
1 1
2 1
1 1
2 1
2 2

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ego


Here is one example using RNG clustering into Three column.
As you can see the random bits has to get chaotic if you are going to lose.

The question is if you aim for 211 or 121 or 213 when you reach recovery mode.

 For example

 123
 213
 321

 Assume you get following sequense and lose your first Three bets and get into recovery mode.

 123
 21
 32

 Now you would aim for 212 and 323 and if your first formation was 121 you would aim for 213 and  321 but this is just one assumption.
Some one would argue there will be at least one repeat among 9 trails and first aim for one repeat and then after that once more aim for one repeat.
Based upon the idea above would be a total of five attempts.

The other argument is that you would play FTL betting there will be at least one repeat among a 3x3 grid.

111 W
111
213

133 L
222 W
113

131 L
311 L
333 W

111 W
111
321

211 L
131 L
111 W

112 W
131
113

111 W
313
221

321 W
223
321

131 L
113 W
312
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Herby

Quote from: ego on Oct 29, 01:35 PM 2016Now when you compare dozen random flow with EC random flow you get the same results in the short term.
Hi ego,
what is the max amount of spins where you think EC "series" behave similar to dozens ?
TNX

ego

 Its complex thinking - but there is a loop hole using the Matrix above.

When you have a serie of two or Three you follow it to become a serie of two or Three.

22
1
3

33
2
1

But you win either way - even if you have a serie of two and you play follow the last and get a serie of three you win.
Same if you have a serie of Three and get a serie of two as you play follow the last.

23
1
3

32
2
1

So it boild down to that there is as many singles as there is series, so it is a 50/50 situation - but using the law of series where singles is dozen 1 and series of two dozen 2 and series of Three and higher dozen 3 you have the probability with 1 in 3 using the matrix.
So it should not matter if you have more singles and less series of two and less of series of Three as they both win using one single bet using follow the last where singles is as many a series in total.

And if you have singles you also play follow the last.

11
2
1

Cheers


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Herby

Hi ego,

TNX for your interesting idea.
I'll program it, to see what happens longterm.

I would have rated you positive  :thumbsup:,  but I'm not allowed to.

Greets

Herby

Quote from: ego on Oct 31, 03:25 PM 2016using the law of series where singles is dozen 1 and series of two dozen 2 and series of Three and higher dozen 3 you have the probability with 1 in 3 using the matrix.

Results: 1000  6x3 Matrix with recipe from above
Counting the outcomes of the lines
Due to my little understanding I cant't see the probability with 1 in 3   :question:

{{{1, 1, 1}, 7534}, {{1, 1, 2}, 3746}, {{1, 1, 3}, 3695},
{{1, 2, 1}, 3732}, {{1, 2, 2}, 1825}, {{1, 2, 3}, 1879},
{{1, 3, 1}, 3722}, {{1, 3, 2}, 1845}, {{1, 3, 3}, 1916},
{{2, 1, 1}, 3809}, {{2, 1, 2}, 1867}, {{2, 1, 3}, 1796},
{{2, 2, 1}, 1815}, {{2, 2, 2}, 948}, {{2, 2, 3}, 938},
{{2, 3, 1}, 1823}, {{2, 3, 2}, 977}, {{2, 3, 3}, 960},
{{3, 1, 1}, 3766}, {{3, 1, 2}, 1822}, {{3, 1, 3}, 1924},
{{3, 2, 1}, 1888}, {{3, 2, 2}, 990}, {{3, 2, 3}, 936},
{{3, 3, 1},1946}, {{3, 3, 2}, 969}, {{3, 3, 3}, 932}}

ego

 Herby is ok - is no more or less - i pass the Van Keelen Test twice using the methodology - transform the law of series into 1 in 3 probability as i explain above.
The Van Keelen Test state that a system is superior after Place 1000 placed bets (not spins) and gain 100 unit - flatbetting.

I Place 1000 bets and gain 75 units - twice - flatbetting.
And i use a march to Catch the dominance out of two dozen using 1 in 3 probability with the EC as i describe in my first post.

Cheers
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thelaw

I assume your test was using only 1 ec (all 3 could be used concurrently)? :question:

So +1 unit every 3-4 spins flat betting could be expected long term if using all 3 ec?

Great work! Cheers! :thumbsup:
You sir.......are a monster!!!

mogul397

NOBODY knows what you THINK they know

RouletteGhost

the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

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tuddilue

I wonder if you can present a 37 spin sequence with how you bet this?
I think I start to get it but I'm not sure.

So a sequence should clarify everything I think..
Thanks in advance.
- Tuddilue

ego

Quote from: tuddilue on Nov 02, 02:36 AM 2016
I wonder if you can present a 37 spin sequence with how you bet this?
I think I start to get it but I'm not sure.

So a sequence should clarify everything I think..
Thanks in advance.
- Tuddilue

R
B dozen 1

1

R
B dozen 1
B dozen 2
R

1
2

R
B dozen 1
B dozen 2
R
B dozen 1

1
2
1

R
B dozen 1
B dozen 2
R
B dozen 1
R dozen 1

11 WON
2
1

R
B dozen 1
B dozen 2
R
B dozen 1
R dozen 1
R dozen 2
B

11
22
1

R
B dozen 1
B dozen 2
R
B dozen 1
R dozen 1
R dozen 2
B
B
B
B
B dozen 3
R

11
22
13

R
B dozen 1
B dozen 2
R
B dozen 1
R dozen 1
R dozen 2
B
B
B
B
B dozen 3
R
R dozen 2
B

112
22
13

R
B dozen 1
B dozen 2
R
B dozen 1
R dozen 1
R dozen 2
B
B
B
B
B dozen 3
R
R dozen 2
B
R dozen 1

112
221
13

R
B dozen 1
B dozen 2
R
B dozen 1
R dozen 1
R dozen 2
B
B
B
B
B dozen 3
R
R dozen 2
B
R dozen 1
B dozen 1

112
221
131

Denial of gamblers fallacy is usually seen in people who has Roulette as last option for a way to wealth, debt covering and a independent lifestyle.  Next step is pretty ugly-
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ego

 All combinations ...

FLT

111 W
112 W
113 W
122 LW
133 LW
123 LW
132 LW
121 LL
131 LL

222 W
223 W
221 W
233 W
211 LW
231 W
213 LL
232 W
212 LL

333 W
332 W
331 W
311 LW
322 W
321 W
312 LL
323 W
313 LL

And 3 x grid is just one example, some one can use 4,5 or any amount.

112
212
223
312
333
211
Denial of gamblers fallacy is usually seen in people who has Roulette as last option for a way to wealth, debt covering and a independent lifestyle.  Next step is pretty ugly-
AP - It's not that it can't be done, but rather people don't really have a clue as to the level of fanaticism and outright obsession that it takes to be successful, let alone get to the level where you can take money out of the casinos on a regular basis. Out of 1,000 people that earnestly try, maybe only one will make it.

tuddilue

Thanks for the examples.
I will reread it and I think I understand it more now.
Thanks!
- Tuddilue

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