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Independence vs. Dependence

Started by falkor2k15, Feb 08, 07:21 AM 2017

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falkor2k15

Most claim that Roulette cannot be beaten due to outcomes being equally like and independent, but let's say we have outcomes that are not equally like and dependent: that still doesn't mean we can beat it, right? Leaving aside the (un)equally-likely part I don't think dependency in particular really helps; does it?
"Trotity trot, trotity trot, the noughts became overtly hot! Merily, merily, merily, merily, the 2s went gently down the stream..."¸¸.•*¨*•♫♪:

Priyanka

Quote from: falkor2k15 on Feb 08, 07:21 AM 2017but let's say we have outcomes that are not equally like and dependent:
There is a mathematical proof for the first part - why equally likely and independence ensures that the house edge catches up with law of large numbers. However there is no mathematical proof to prove or disprove against what you have written. The toughest nut to crack has always been finding the equally likley and dependent events that provides odds better than its occurance.
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falkor2k15

OK, it seems I found edge tonight using unequally likely outcomes and dependency. All I did was bet double dozens and came out +200 with about twice as many placed bets, so I guess it really does work: these 2 concepts are all that's really needed for the most part. I never used any stitching or most of the other concepts....  :-X
"Trotity trot, trotity trot, the noughts became overtly hot! Merily, merily, merily, merily, the 2s went gently down the stream..."¸¸.•*¨*•♫♪:

RouletteGhost

What are the rules and guidelines to your strategy of play?

When XYZ happens, what do you do?
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

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RouletteGhost

An edge is a big thing to claim

So let's hear it
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

falkor2k15

I'll let you know when I come back from Las Vegas!  :thumbsup:

In the meantime you could try to figure it out yourself from my simulator output:
Click here...
"Trotity trot, trotity trot, the noughts became overtly hot! Merily, merily, merily, merily, the 2s went gently down the stream..."¸¸.•*¨*•♫♪:

RouletteGhost

the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

falkor2k15

Using a friend's webhost... did you check out the file?

Does it look like edge or variance?
"Trotity trot, trotity trot, the noughts became overtly hot! Merily, merily, merily, merily, the 2s went gently down the stream..."¸¸.•*¨*•♫♪:

RouletteGhost

the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

3Nine

I'm more interested in those rare Kung Fu movies.  Any available for download?
Do I turn the wheel,
or does the wheel turn me?

falkor2k15

Quote from: 3Nine on Feb 10, 06:09 AM 2017
I'm more interested in those rare Kung Fu movies.  Any available for download?
Which one you need? I got 20,000 - most not listed on the site. Maybe check here for any martial arts film is better and let me know:
Internet Movie Database: :.imdb.com
Hong Kong Movie Database: :.hkmdb.com
Hong Kong Film Archive: link:://ipac.hkfa.lcsd.gov.hk/ipac/cclib/ipac.jsp?cs=iso-8859-1
Taiwan Film Database: link:://atmovies.com.tw/home/
Korean Film Archive: link:s://eng.koreafilm.or.kr/
Indonesian Movie Database: link:://:.citwf.com/indexx.asp
Pinoy Kung Fu Register: link:://web.archive.org/web/20160828012731/link:://andrewleavold.blogspot.com/2008/12/pinoy-kung-fu-register-1972-1981.html

HK TV Series
link:://blog.renren.com/share/231573636/12509464341
link:://wuxiasociety.freeforums.net/thread/43/rtv-atv-historical-series
link:s://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_TVB_series_(1983)
"Trotity trot, trotity trot, the noughts became overtly hot! Merily, merily, merily, merily, the 2s went gently down the stream..."¸¸.•*¨*•♫♪:

3Nine

Do I turn the wheel,
or does the wheel turn me?

falkor2k15

Quote from: 3Nine on Feb 10, 06:44 AM 2017
All of them!
Perhaps start with this one first then to see which Shaolin animal style you like... can branch out from there!  :thumbsup:
link:s://:.youtube.com/watch?v=mBc3YtO5vIU
"Trotity trot, trotity trot, the noughts became overtly hot! Merily, merily, merily, merily, the 2s went gently down the stream..."¸¸.•*¨*•♫♪:

3Nine

Quote from: falkor2k15 on Feb 10, 06:52 AM 2017
Perhaps start with this one first then to see which Shaolin animal style you like... can branch out from there!  :thumbsup:
link:s://:.youtube.com/watch?v=mBc3YtO5vIU

Ha. Thanks.  I practice Wing Chun (Ving Tsun) so I may be a bit biased towards that style.
Do I turn the wheel,
or does the wheel turn me?

falkor2k15

"Trotity trot, trotity trot, the noughts became overtly hot! Merily, merily, merily, merily, the 2s went gently down the stream..."¸¸.•*¨*•♫♪:

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