Roulette Book Review

[iggiv]

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"Roulette, Playing to Win", by Brett Morton SEEMS, at first, to be a "middle of the road" roulette book. Not too easy to understand, not too difficult, either, it covers all the basics. HOWEVER, THE REAL IMPORTANCE OF THIS BOOK IS FOUND IN THE BACK SECTION. The back section discusses, amongst other things, the way Roulette is played in various countries. The warning he gives about playing roulette in FINLAND is chilling. I hope that Finland has changed its rules since this book was published -- but if it has not, one learns very quickly, from reading Mr. Morton's book....NEVER PLAY ROULETTE IN FINLAND.....OR IN ANY OTHER COUNTRY OR CASINO WHICH ADOPTS THE RULES FOR ROULETTE, AS PLAYED IN FINLAND, AND AS DESCRIBED IN THIS BOOK! If anything in the world of Roulette constitutes a "horror story", (other than losing all one's money in unpracticed, undisciplined play), it is the system, purportedly used in Finland, at the time of the publication of this book. If ANY casino you ever encounter, ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD, uses these
"Finnish" rules, DO NOT PLAY ROULETTE THERE. For THESE rules are bound to "Finish" any roulette player's bank account. If encountering any casinos that insist in using these "Finnish" rules.....my advice is to play ANOTHER GAME AT THAT CASINO....perhaps "Dice" (craps), or "Sic Bo", (the only other two games at which I -- a roulette player since 1978 -- have ever won any money.) Or go to another casino which cheats less! (Yes, casinos CAN cheat -- and in the back of his book, Mr. Morton tells how they can REALLY cheat a player at roulette!)

WHAT are these "Finnish" rules? I would be defeating the purpose of this review, (that is, to get readers interested in buying this book), by telling them here. But Mr. Morton explains -- in plain, understandable, and quietly chilling language -- what these rules are, and why players should STAY FAR AWAY, from ANY casino, in ANY country, which uses them. Other casinos, in other countries, could easily adopt these rules....but if they do, NO one will play roulette, and the game will sadly die. To prevent this happening, I URGE roulette players, winning at fairer casinos, to BE fair, and give BIG TIPS when they win. That way, everyone will be happy....and more players will have more chances of winning, (some!) money at roulette.

To find out what these nefarious "Finnish" rules are at playing roulette, get this book, and look immediately at the last chapters.

This is not only a book which teaches roulette - it is a "Roulette Self-Defense Book", as well!

.....


so what the heck about those "Finnish Casino Rules"?

[Canuck]

I"ve only been playing for a few years. I'm actually in Vegas now as we speak.

Overall, I'm behind, but my last two sessions have been winners.

What I as a novice roulette player liked was the explanations of the concepts of playing with the wheel and playing against the wheel.

Once it was spelled out, it was an "Aha!" moment.

I remember one night a friend of mine, drunk out of his mind played against the wheel.
Every time he saw four blacks in a row, he'd bet red. And the drunk won.

I didn't realize until now, what I was doing. Which was betting with the wheel. And I lost an unbelievable amount of spins in a row.

Now, I never knew about a dealer influencing a spin. That just blew me away when I read that. I rarely tipped. But I will now.


Going to the .50 cent and $1. tables gives one confidence to try new strategies. George, I can't thank you enough for revieiwing this book.

[GLC]

Canuck,

I am deeply grateful for your generous "Thank You" and of course Brett Morton is the ultimate sharer of the information.

As Iggiv said, there is a lot of other information in the book that is very useful.  I didn't mention anything about the last section because, at least for the foreseeable future, I'm not going to be playing anywhere overseas.

The main reason for my review was to present a different method of play other than the implied method most of us present with our negative progression systems.

This is a good example of why we shouldn't get too discouraged when we don't get much of a response to a post we've made.  You never know when someone like Canuck may get 1 thing out of it that makes a big difference in his approach to the game.  There may be many others out there that got something also and we'll never hear from them.  I hope so.

I appreciate WannaWin's encouragement to me when I first started posting and made a comment to the effect that it was discouraging to not get any response and he pointed out that if even 1 person got even 1 new idea, then it's worth the effort.  Just assume that someone got something and keep going.

Cheers All,

George

[esoito]

@GLC
Speaking for myself (and possibly others in the same leaking mental-acuity boat LOL) it often takes time to read, assimilate and understand quite high-level stuff such as in this thread.

A different way of thinking...it all takes time to ponder, to evaluate, and to work out if it fits one's own 'comfort 'zone' and risk profile.

And because of all that thinking that's going on posts will inevitably be light on in the initial stages.

So take heart, mate.

Lots of reading and thinking going on about what you're saying...You're NOT wasting your time and not unappreciated...

[GLC]

Esoito,

Thanks Mate.  I appreciate you encouraging all of us.  That's what I was also trying to do for others.  I'm getting fairly used to no response when I post a mundane, run-of-the-mill system.  Most of the time, I'm glad nobody pursues some of them because they're not worth pursuing.

I test an idea.  It wins really well.  I post it on the forum.  I test it some more.  It tanks like to the bottom of the ocean.  I have egg on my face.  I hope nobody play it for real money for fear that they'll come hunting me down. etc...

Cheers

[GLC]

At the end of the book the author gives a summary of 4 challenges he took.  The challenge was to win  4000 chips.  He had a fighting fund of 1000 chips.  But he only took 200 chips to the casino.  This was enough for 2 games starting with 100 chips each.

Tip:  100 chips may feel too few for safety.  If your fighting fund is large enough, you can take as much as 300 chips to the casino.  But, it is good discipline to try to be successful with 100 chips.    It helps you play mean and teaches you to be grateful for even the smallest wins.

The basics of his challenges was as stated above 1000 unit fighting fund taking 200 units to the casino each day.
His loss limit was 30 units in the beginning.  Even 2 bad games meant he could go home with 140 units.  A 30 unit loss limit teaches you to play very tight.  This is the only way to play no matter how large you funds.

His first challenge:

He played even chances.
He played minimum table stakes.
He followed the wheel.
He played level stakes on each loss.
If he lost 3 times on R/B, he would go to one of the other even chances like Odd/Even.
On the first win he let all chips ride.
If the 2nd bet was a winner, he returned to his base bet.
As stated above he had a 30 unit loss limit.
He had no Gold Top or BLT since he hadn't developed those ideas at the time.
He had a win target of 35 units.
At 1000 chips won, he doubled his base stakes, win target and loss limit.
He set a safety net figure of 250 chips loss from his fighting fund when he reached the double base bet stage.
He increased his stakes by double again when he reached 2000 units up. and his safety net loss to 500 chips before reverting to lower stakes.
He doubled again after reaching up 3000 units.

He enjoyed following the wheel although instinctively he felt that runs of even chances must end and is more comfortable betting against the wheel.  Nevertheless, this challenge showed that playing follow the wheel, playing 2 in a row on a letting it ride basis, can be a winner.
He never needed more than 100 units to reach 4100 unit level.

2nd Challenge:

Had come up with Gold Top and BLT targets.
He bet on even chances and against the wheel.
He waited for a pattern of 6 to form.
He took 200 chips to the casino.
Started at minimum stakes.
Set a loss limit of 30 units.
Gold Top of 45.
BLT of 15.
He was not level betting after each loss.  He bet 5-5-15
If the 1st bet won, he let everything ride for the 2nd bet and this bet was not necessarily the very next spin since he was playing against the wheel.  If the 2nd bet won that was the end of the sequence with 15 units profit.
If the 1st bet lost, he bet 5 units again as a level bet.
If the 2nd bet lost, he raised the stake to 15 units.
If the 3rd bet lost, he went back to the base bet and repeated 5-5-15 until he won or had reached his loss limit.
If after 2 losing bets, the bet at 15 won, he let it ride, staking 30 units.
he then went back to the base bet of 5 units.
He set the same 1000, 2000, 3000, parameters as the 1st challenge.

Third Challenge:

He played even chances again.
He played a base bet of 10 units.
He played follow the wheel.
He used the parlay.
Everything else was the same as the first 2 challenges.

Note:  This system led to the best results quickest.  He thinks this would have been just as successful as waiting for a sequence of six and betting against the wheel.  However, following the wheel, you get more constant action, as there is no need to wait for a pattern or sequence of six to develop.

Forth Challenge:

He played 2 dozens.
He played against the wheel.
He used the 3 to 1 bet.  15 units on High or Low and 5 unit on the line that completes the 24 numbers.
He waited for 3 numbers in either the 1st dozen or the 3rd dozen then bet the other 24 numbers.
He cashed 200 chips as cash for 2 games.
Loss limit was 60.
Happy point was 50.
Gold Top was 70.
BLT was 20.
He stated that he would never now set a higher loss limit than Happy point, but back then he was still honing his methods.
He was level betting 20 units until a win.
He increased the stakes only slightly on a win to 18 on the High or Low and 6 on the line that completed the 24 numbers.  And then went back to the base stakes.  Of course this was not 3 consecutive spins, but 3 consecutive suitable bets.
He played only on single zero wheels with a loss of half stakes on even chances when zero spins.

Conclusions from the 4 challenges.

The parlay is best used when following the wheel.
When betting against the wheel, playing 2 in a row with the second bet increased but not doubled and then back to the base bet works well.
The Gold Top target made it quicker to reach +4000.
The BLT was the best innovation but was the toughest discipline of all.
Level bets on all losses works the best.
Letting it ride on the third bet was fun if successful but a killer if it lost.
He has given up the let it ride bets.
He always looks for neighbor bet and footprints and these bets over-ride all other bets.
Without discipline there is nothing.

Tip:  So long as your basic approach is sound, you can win with a variety of systems or with variations that suit you.

One Note:  He says that he would not recommend a 100 unit buy-in if you can afford more.  Learning to win with 100 units is good discipline to start with, but to win on a regular basis is easier with more units to work with.

From the emphasis he puts on the single zero wheel and the favorable rules for even chance bets in UK and other casino over there, makes me feel like we Yanks are starting out in a pretty deep hole here in the US.

I hope this gives some of you something to chew on. 

It's late and most of you guys are already snoring, so I think I'll call it a night.

Cheers,

G

[seykid31]

Hi
Interesting read indeed,im not snoring just woke up,its only 8:47 a. m here in paradise. . haha
Cheers
Seykid.

[Canuck]

George,

The Question is about Steaks and Chops, ie. playing with the wheel, or against the wheel.

Does one look at a sequence and then say to oneself, the sequence will end now?

How does a player decide that?

I just want you to know. I had a 5 hour flight home from Vegas today and I spent about 3 hours re reading the posts that you made. I copied and pasted it into word.

The point is, that your discussion of Brett's book was written simply and clearly.
The money management discussion was crucial.

But obviously choosing to go against a sequence is tricky when one is in the heat of the moment with spins.

How does everyone decide when to go Steaks(with the current sequence) or Chops(killing the sequence) I actually got confused today looking at the wheel. And did the right thing by not playing after having played a bunch, and not very well.

But I did make notes of all my sessions on the plane ride home and gleaned a lot of truths. And the main truth is to have other ways of making money to support my roulette tuition fees.

[esoito]

"I hope nobody play it for real money for fear that they'll come hunting me down. etc..."

The posse is already on its way...

Don't fret about that. We're all big boys now -- we must take responsibility for our own actions and decisions.

If somebody follows your idea(s) with real $$ and loses then that's their choice -- nobody made the decision for them!

[GLC]

Canuck,

Brett indicates two ways of deciding 1)  He watches the boards until he sees a tendency for chops or streaks.  Then decides.  2)  If he spots a dealer that he know has a tendency to deal streaks, he goes with them.  I guess a third way is 3)  He decides which way he's going to play before going to the casino.  This third way seems to be the weakest.

Consider doing what Ken (MrJ) does with even chances.  He watches all three and chooses one until it goes bad, then jumps to one of the other ones that is trending better.  This goes for either way.  I think the best way is to check what's happening at the time and go with that until it changes and then you change.

He has set lengths for sequences for betting against the wheel.  Even chances are 6 in a row.  This can be 6 Reds or Blacks, Odds or Evens etc... Or it can be 6 spins that creates a pattern that is too pretty to continue like RRBBRR or RBRBRB or RRBRRB or RBRRBR etc...  When betting against, he usually bets a max of 4 tries for a win.  If no win, he waits for another trigger.  He keeps his bet level after a loss, and when he gets a win, he increases by less than a full parlay.  Re-read my posts of his trip to the casinos.  His progression seems to be 10-20-30-50-75-100-150-200.  If he loses once he's started up the progression, he plays like Contra D'Alembert, that is move 1 step to the right on a win and 1 step to the left on a loss.  He is also taking into consideration his BLT, Happy Point, Gold Top when deciding how much to bet.

Hope this helps.

George

[iggiv]

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[Lady K]

Hi GLC,

I for one, very much enjoyed your book review - Thank you! I like and appreciate all your posts, and how you recommend the best ways to play certain bets more carefully. I promptly bought this book to take with me on Easter vacation and found it a very good read. And I picked up some tips I liked. I also took you with me on vacation too, as I printed out pages and pages of your posts to read...! 

Kindest regards,
K

[Lady K]

Iggiv, Thank you so much for posting that great link to the High Stakes Gambling Bookshop... I didn't even know there was such a speciality store. Lots more books for me to read! K

[iggiv]

u r very welcome 

[GLC]

Hi GLC,

I for one, very much enjoyed your book review - Thank you! I like and appreciate all your posts, and how you recommend the best ways to play certain bets more carefully. I promptly bought this book to take with me on Easter vacation and found it a very good read. And I picked up some tips I liked. I also took you with me on vacation too, as I printed out pages and pages of your posts to read...! 

Kindest regards,
K

I accept that compliment.

If you get even one new idea from a post, it's worth reading even if it isn't the H. G.

Good luck to you.

G