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*Street Fighter Turbo*

Started by iancloud2001, Aug 20, 12:19 AM 2011

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iancloud2001

Here we go. This is a Street fighting system based on the fabled "Law of the Third". I am hoping that it applies to Streets in the same way that it works with Singles. It's costly, so beware of table limits.

Start off by free-spinning the wheel once, or looking at the last street spun. You're going to bet ON the last street to appear with 1 chip. If that bet loses, keep your bet there, and add 1 chip to the next latest Street to appear. You will continue doing this until one of the streets you are betting on finally hits.

The progression is as follows:

1
1-1
1-1-1
2-2-2-2
4-4-4-4-4
8-8-8-8-8-8
19-19-19-19-19-19-19
57-57-57-57-57-57-57-57-57
227-227-227-227-227-227-227-227-227-227

I haven't calculated a 10th or 11th step of progression yet because I've never reached that point. I will do it once it actually gets to that point. Yes, it is a lot already. But, I think that with .10 cent (or even .01 cent) units, it won't completely break the bank. Personally, I want to win no matter what, and I have the BR so I'm not concerned as longs as it wins consistently.

What I would like to know is... How often can there be 12 completely unique streets within a single 12 spin sample, or continuously? Does anyone good with maths know the answer?

So far, in RX, I was messing around with different lame strategies and went from 500 units, down to -760. Then I tried my Street Fighter again, and it went right up from there to +1200 within 600 spins.



Newlight

Have you made a mistake in yr progression?  Theres seems a cap the last 3 are 7 9 10

iggiv

don't hold your breath. and never play this method with big money You can't afford losing easily. because u will. sorry to disappoint u, it is just to warn u against this usual roulette trap.

well, some people consider me to be "a negative troll" which wants to destroy their methods and their games.

so i say this: before u head to a real game where You can lose more than a few small bucks, just make a test in RX on different german wheels. Not just one, but different. and see the results. there is no way this method is gonna win after 20x100. 20 wheels x 100 spins each. it's gonna lose everything it gained. it must be a very good luck if it still holds up after 20x100 spins.

i may be wrong of course. it may lose later. but it will.

though it still can be used with "hit-n-run", small progression, and combined with other methods

iancloud2001

Yes, let me fix that. Thanks for pointing that out! It should be 8 steps then 9 step for the last two levels, respectively. Let me know if you have any questions regarding the system. I know my wording can be a bit jumbled at times.

*Update- I'm up 3,000 units in 1,200 continuous spins.

P.S. iggiv, I appreciate your advice. Will you try my system? I'm also working on something Called the King of Fighters system (also based on the "Law of the Third"). Do you recommend against this? What are your thoughts on systems based on that principle?

kingsroulette

Dangerous progression and piles of chips are no solution to this game of volatility. Rather go for bigger betselection to increase your chances of striking at last.

iggiv

Quote from: iancloud2001 on Aug 20, 01:52 AM 2011
Yes, let me fix that. Thanks for pointing that out! It should be 8 steps then 9 step for the last two levels, respectively. Let me know if you have any questions regarding the system. I know my wording can be a bit jumbled at times.

*Update- I'm up 3,000 units in 1,200 continuous spins.

P.S. iggiv, I appreciate your advice. Will you try my system? I'm also working on something Called the King of Fighters system (also based on the "Law of the Third"). Do you recommend against this? What are your thoughts on systems based on that principle?



the stuff with "stiff" bet selections (like streets, double streets, dozens and so on) must be used as hit-run only, combined with other bet selections. as many different bet selections as u can.
i don't believe in law of the third practically in roulette, i more believe in hot trends but for different bet selections. i  don't believe in progressions as well. long progressions are a way to nowhere.
but betting on the last is fine. but it should not be always betting on the last street, and there should be other conditions met to bet on the last. well, look for different hot trends, make as many bet selections as possible, use strict money management, not too big stop loss, well, all this is in good books like Bret Morton, John Patrick, Lee Tutor.

that's just my personal opinion in what i tried with roulette. i don't pretend to be some super duper  pro, but as u said it "i messed up a lot with RX". and tried most of the stuff u try now.
progressions like yours don't hold up for too long time, though they may work at first, and then
u get self confident, start playing big units, chase your losses desperately with longer progressions  and that's how people end up broke and depressed




iggiv

Quote from: kingsroulette on Aug 20, 02:29 AM 2011
Dangerous progression and piles of chips are no solution to this game of volatility. Rather go for bigger betselection to increase your chances of striking at last.

exactly. would add "go for different bet selections"

GLC

What I'm about to write may be incorrect.  But, please consider it because it may be correct.  I am not bashing your system in any way.  I think a lot of people could win some really good money playing it.

The bet selection is a mechanical bet selection.  You can say this is based on the "Law of the Third", and maybe it is, but the foundation of the system, in my humble opinion, is a martingale.  It's a martingale applied to increasing numbers of streets.  Any win recovers all losses plus a little for profit. 

As with all martingales, there are a ton of small wins and, depending on how many loss steps you can afford, when you finally reach the limit, and you will! it takes back a lot of the small wins.

I'm afraid that 12 unique streets come up just often enough, mathematically, to make this system a long term loser.  There will be very long series of spins when they will come up way under probability and you will be an excited winner.  There will be very long series of spins when they come up more often than probability dictates and you will be a very unhappy loser.

Whether or not you win with the system long term will be based on how lucky you are.  Let's say 100 people start playing this system exactly the same way.  Some will reach their maximum bet and have to take a loss well before they have won enough to cover the first loss.  Others will win enough to about break even on their first loss.  Others will be a little ahead when their first loss comes and others will be way ahead when their 1st loss hits.  Now, the exciting part, 3 or 4 might be so far ahead by their 1st loss that it doesn't phase them at all and finally 1 or 2 may actually be lucky enough to never experience a loss as long as they play the system.  This will be a rare event, but the odds of winning a lottery are pretty high and yet someone will eventually win.

All I'm saying is that this system is very similar to a handful of other systems that are based on a modified martingale and to my knowledge none of them have stood the test of time.

The next thought you might want to look into, although mathematically it doesn't change anything, is to revise your progression so that you have to win twice before full recovery.  Or maybe three times or 5 times. 

In other words, let's say you use this progression

1
11
111
2222
44444  Now instead of going to 8 per street we could go to 6 per street like this
666666  Then 10
10 10 10 10 10 10 10  then  16
16 16 16 16 16 16 16 16   Then 24
24 24 24 24 24 24 24 24 24  Then 34
34 34 34 34 34 34 34 34 34 34  Then 46
46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46  Then 60
60 60 60 60 60 60 60 60 60 60 60 60

If you lose all 12 steps without a win, you lose 2,046 units which is about the same as you bet on the 9 spots at 227 each.  And the amounts you are going to have to bet on the 10th, 11th and 12th levels are going to be astronomical.

Any time you win on my progression in the first 5 steps, you fully recover and can reset to 1.
If you win on the 6th through 12th steps you will not fully recover and will drop back down the progression line to the appropriate level so that a second win will fully recover.  Or you can adjust the unit sizes for 3 wins to recover or 4 etc...

These are just some observations you might consider.

LOL,

George
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

Robeenhuut

Quote from: pratikpop on Sep 20, 02:46 PM 2011
very good idea GLc.i have been planning to play this system lately...but just want to ask that anyone has seen 8 unique streets

Hello Praktik

I still play sometimes some streets system. 8 unique streets hit one after another more than u think. I saw not long time ago whole set of 12 hit.

Regards
Matt

Tomla021

why not start after 4 or 5 unique streets have hit?--thats common
"No Whining, just Winning"

woods101

John Legend has an interesting system based on waiting for 8 unique streets which seems to be more valid and a lot safer...

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