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Started by Kattila, Sep 14, 07:51 AM 2011

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Kattila

Quote from: artattack on Sep 15, 07:38 PM 2011
Hi Katilla.

This does remind me of a quite interesting system called Jack Kennedy Square RO-LET  system.

It was quite a decent system and I do intend to re-visit it some time.

Is this based on that system?

Arthur.

Hi Arthur,
Has some similarities with that method but not based on it.
It s based on dominant movement, dominant colour, dealer signature....
in general same principle like my other movements system, but this time
attack 9 numbers one colour. The other system is the 6 angles/ 6 numbers
and still play that one to, even if in the long run tests has failed (but can hold up
sometimes even  after 10 000 and 20 000 spins).
    I agree with others when say flat bet methods can not survive on the very long
run but i don t care if my (100-200 spins)session end in plus. One more think .....
past spins/results has nothing to do with future spins and results, so never know ...
We only need good methods good MM , experience, luck and  intuition to win , after all is just a game so...take it easy .



cheers

roulprofessional

one more thing i need to ask...have u had 2 or 3 losses in a row..

peauke

Hello,

I am new to the forum and have read a few posts (pattern breaker, pattern4, divide and conquer, etc) and like your system, but i don't understand it fully.

When a trigger apears, lets say B1, you always bet on B1 even when you lose. I know the numbers of B1 change after the next spin.

My problem is to get the right numbers to the code R1, B1, R2, B2. For example see below (excel sheet) a spin session of mine with code and numbers i would think to bet on.

Hope you can clarify it for me. ;D

[attachurl=1]
trying to win some on roulette with a 5 year plan

Kattila

Quote from: roulprofessional on Sep 16, 06:36 AM 2011
one more thing i need to ask...have u had 2 or 3 losses in a row..

Yes of course, twice in a row -36 hit quite often also i find four times 3 losses
in a row (-36,-36,-36) but i was already up enough to take the 3 losses.
Ex: i was up +54 then hit the 3 losses, so down -54 after that 3 losses, then won
again until i was in plus +27 end session.
I am sure will find even 4 losses in a row (even more) but like i said (see rules) after
3 losses in a row stop play and take the lose (if you are around -120 or -150) Or wait
one virtual win and bet again after new trigger.
Remember when start can start after one virtual W or after 2 losses in row.

cheers

Kattila

session today on airball

17
31  b2
31  b1
15  b1  trigger
25  r1  l1
0    -   l2
13  b1  W (virtual win) start real play
16  r1
35  b1
9    r2
20  b2
32  r1  trigger
21  r1  w +27
31  b2  trigger
15  b1  l1
17  b1  l2
17  b1  l3                      b1 on wait
9    r2  l4 -36,  bet b1
24  b2  l1
23  r2  l2                       r2 on wait
35  b1  w  +9, bet r2
6    b1  l1
19  r2  w  +18
0
5    r1
26  b1  trigger
5    r2  l1
10  b2  l2
23  r1  l3                         r1 on wait                   
15  b1  w  0,  bet r1
8    b1  l1
31  b1  l2                           b1 on wait
19  r1  w  +9
17  b1  w  +27
13  b1
7    r2
3    r1
2    b1  trigger
30  r1  l1                              r1 on wait
27  r2  l2
8    b1  w  +9,  bet r1
23  r1  w  +27                         
6    b2
6    b1
17   b2  trigger
24   b1  l1
30   r2  l2
6    b2  w  +9                        W  +99 end session

good weekend for all

Kattila

another real session today(airball local city):

[reveal]


23           virtual play
6    b2
23  r1
20  b1
29  b1  trigger
5    r2  l1
9    r1  l2                      r1 on wait
31  b2  l3
7    r1  l4,  bet r1
0         l1
1    r2  l2
16  r2  l3                      r2 on wait
34  r2  l4, bet r2
25  r2  W (virtual) start real play
27  r1
31  b1
29  b1  trigger
6    b1  w  +27
4    b2
32  r2
2    b1
32  r2    trigger
8    b1  l1
24  b1  l2                       b1 on wait
3    r1  l3
10  b2  l4 -36  , bet b1
32  r2  l1
15  b1  w  +18
12  r2  trigger
28  b2  l1                              b2 on wait
15  b1  l2 
8   b1  l3
27  r2  w  0  bet b2
5   r1  l1
1   r1  l2                                r1 on wait
16  r2  l3
24  b2  w  0,  bet r1
3    r1  w  +27
11  b1
24  b1  trigger
22  b1  w  +27
6    b2
28  b2  trigger
11  b2  w  +27                             
30  r1
12  r2
8    b2
16  r1    trigger
16  r1  w  +27                             
3    r1
2    b1
24  b1  trigger
2    b2  l1
30  r1  l2                                 r1 on wait
27  r2  l3
22  b1  w  0,  bet  r1
29  b1  l1
31  b2  l2
21  r1  w  +9                             W  + 126  end session




[/reveal]

Any coder to code this method flat bet and also with progression ?

cheers

Kattila

One  tweak....when play and get Ls and shows two
triggers on wait ,then choose the most hot.

session  test/example  live spins, how to apply new tweak :

[reveal]


29                               virtual play
11  b2
5    r1
21  r2
17  b1
2    b2  trigger
20  b2  w virtual, start real play          Example Here:
18  r1   trigger
35  b1  l1                                        b1 on wait
20  b2  l2
2    b2  l3                                        b2 on wait (choose b2 hot)
19  r2  l4  -36, bet b2
9    r2  l1                                         r2 on wait
21  r1  l2
0         l3
22  b2  w  0 , bet r2
10  b2  l1
21  r2  w  +18
7    r2
36  r2  trigger
31  b1  l1
30  r2  w  +18
10  b1  trigger
19  r2  l1
4    b1  w  +18
3    r2  trigger
32  r1  l1
21  r1  l2                                r1 on wait
6    b1  l3
24  b1  l4 -36 , bet b1              b1 on wait (choose b1 hot)
6    b2  l1
6    b1  w  +18                     
28  b2  trigger
6    b1  l1
19  r2  l2
5    r1  l3
31  b1  l4 -36  , trigger b1                  total -36
22  b1  w  +27
5    r2   trigger
1    r1  l1                                         r1 on wait
29  b1  l2
26  b1  l3                                        b1 on wait ( b1 most hot)
14  r2  w  0,  bet b1
7    r1  l1
19  r1  l2                                          r1 on wait
2    b1  w  +9, bet r1
33  b1  l1
18  r1  w  +18                                 
26  b1  trigger
27  r1  l1
20  b1  w  +18
28  b1
21  r1  trigger
2    b1  l1                                 b1 on wait
0          l2
1    r1  w  +9                                  W  +45 total

[/reveal]

MadMax

Ok, I was doubting if I should release these little tracker I´ve attached to this post. Why? Because it smells like a half done product to me, and normally I don´t want to come up with something, I´m not totally satisfied with.
So, what does the tracker do?
You enter the spun numbers in the yellow column a under SPINS, you will directly get the result of the spin according to the previous number, shown in column B. Now column C; these are potentional triggers. Potetntional, because further triggers and winning triggers are ignored. That means, if you have to bet for R2 and win, the tracker will show you another trigger for R2. So this column could only be seen as a help, but don´t bet blindly the outcomes of these column.
You also have to notice, that you don´t enter the zero. Because of this, look at potentional triggers, if there would still be triggers, when the 0 would be in.
So, after you have a signal to bet, you enter the last number in the upper part of the sheet (should be fixed, so that it can´t be scrolled out of sight), in the yellow field beside "Show for No.:". Than you will get the numbers for R1, R2, B1 and B2 for these number.
I´ve tested the outcomes with nearly 200 spins from Kattila´s examples, so that I think, there is no error in the matrix (on which these tracker is based). If you should find one, call Neo or contact my humble self. ;D

As I said, I´m not very happy with this tracker, but I don´t think, that I can come up with a better one, and maybe it will help a little (especially when theres not much time between the spins in online-live-wheel-casinos.)
When you cant enter anything into the sheet, it is write protected in windows. Close it, go to the place where it´s saved and rightclick the sheet, choose properties and unmark the write protection.

Ok, perhaps it will help a few members.
Good luck to all

MadMax

Kattila

Quote from: peauke on Sep 16, 07:47 AM 2011
Hello,

I am new to the forum and have read a few posts (pattern breaker, pattern4, divide and conquer, etc) and like your system, but i don't understand it fully.

When a trigger apears, lets say B1, you always bet on B1 even when you lose. I know the numbers of B1 change after the next spin.

My problem is to get the right numbers to the code R1, B1, R2, B2. For example see below (excel sheet) a spin session of mine with code and numbers i would think to bet on.

Hope you can clarify it for me. ;D

[attachurl=1]




Hi Peauke and welcome to the forum.
When bet R1 or B1 bet numbers right side from the last number spun, but:
When bet R1 and last number was R then include that number
into the 9 numbers to bet.
When bet B1 and last number was B then include that number
into the 9 numbers to bet.
When bet R2 and B2 take the 9 numbers from the left side from
the last number.


And after win for example after trigger B2B2...bet B2 and win , then
shows again  B2B2 bet again for B2, but condition is that new trigger
twice B2.
B2
B2  trigger
B2  win,  wait
B2
B2  new trigger , bet B2
R1  L1
B1  L2
R1  L3                              R1 on wait
B2  w,  bet R1






This way is correct (using your numbers):






5
6    B2 from 5(because left side from 5)
17  B2 from 6,  trigger B2, bet 2,4,15,26,35,28,29,22,31
26  B2  Win,    wait new trigger
13  B1 from 26(because right side)
8    B1 from 13,  trigger B1, bet 8,10,24,33,20,31,22,29,28
29  B1  Win  wait new trigger
29  B1  from 29
8    B2  from 29
13  B2  trigger, bet 6,17,2......
22  B1  L1, bet B2 from 22, so 31,20,33.......
18  R1  L2, bet B2 from 18, so 22,31,20.....
16  R2  L3  bet 24,10,8....
28  B1  L4, new trigger B1 bet 28,35,26......
21  R1  L1, bet B1 so 2,17,6.....
33  B1  Win


Hope is Ok now .


cheers

peauke

Thanx, its clear now
trying to win some on roulette with a 5 year plan

Kattila

 

Session yesterday , still lucky ( played 7, lost 1, won 6 sessions):
any coder or at least any tester? I tested before play it but only
3000 spins .               thanks

cheers


[reveal]

8                       virtual play
12  r1
3   r1  trigger
29  b2  l1
31  b2  l2                        b2 on wait
0         l3
9   r1   w  virtual , bet for real b2
0         l1
24  b2  w  +18
20  b1
16  r2
20  b1   trigger
2    b2  l1
26  b2  l2
31  b2  l3                        b2 on wait
29  b1  w  0,  bet b2
15  b1  l1
22  b2  w  +18
33  b2
22  b1  trigger
15  b1  w  +27
6    b1
19  r2
23  r1
7    r1  trigger
20  b2  l1
6    b2  l2                       b2 on wait
33  b1  l3
21  r2  l4 -36   , bet b2                           
22  b2  w  +27
13  b2 
2    b2  trigger
26  b2  w  +27
25  r1
14  r2
22  b1
3    r1  trigger
23  r2  l1                        r2 on wait
4    b2  l2
35  b2  l3                       b2 on wait(choose b2 hot)
35  b1  l4 -36, bet b2
7    r2  l1                        r2 on wait
26  b1  l2
31  b2  w  +9, bet r2
25  r1  l1
16  r1  l2                        r1 on wait
22  b1  l3                       b1 on wait ( b1 hot)
14  r2  w  0, bet b1
29  b1  w  +27                                           
31  b2
8    b2  trigger
9    r1  l1                       r1 on wait
27  r2  l2
14  r1  l3
17  b2  w  0,  bet r1
10  b1  l1
27  r2  l2
21  r2  l3                        r2 on wait
8    b1  l4 -36, bet r2
14  r1  l1
34  r2  w  +18                                 
8    b1  trigger
9    r1  l1
9    r1  l2                         r1 on wait
20  b2  l3
28  b1  w  0  , bet r1
12  r1  w  +27
4    b1
27  r1
23  r1  trigger
29  b1  l1
4    b1  l2
6    b1  l3
10  b1  l4 -36  , bet b1
2    b2  l1
9    r2  l2
17  b1  w  +9                                   
35  b2  trigger
24  b2  w  +27                                W  +90 end session



[/reveal]


birdhands

Kattila, this is awesome.  I'll test it.  I'm just getting the hang of it now.  Your results are very impressive; have you continued to play this method?  If so, would you share with us your number of sessions and bankroll balance?


Regards,
Sam

Kattila

Quote from: birdhands on Oct 07, 10:19 PM 2011
Kattila, this is awesome.  I'll test it.  I'm just getting the hang of it now.  Your results are very impressive; have you continued to play this method?  If so, would you share with us your number of sessions and bankroll balance?


Regards,
Sam

Hi Sam , i have played in total 16 sessions, lost 4 sessions won 12 sessions,
total win until now +549 (stop lose around -108, target around +100 and
sometimes i ended even at   +36  or +54 ).


cheers

catalyst

Quote from: Kattila on Oct 08, 07:11 AM 2011

Hi Sam , i have played in total 16 sessions, lost 4 sessions won 12 sessions,
total win until now +549 (stop-loss around -108, target around +100 and
sometimes i ended even at   +36  or +54 ).


cheers

kattila
thanks for nice system.  :thumbsup: could you please post one of your lost session to evaluate a suitable progression.
thanks
catalyst

Kattila

I will Catalyst, and the progression for 9 NR could be Fibo
1112/2233/3555/888,13/13,13,21,21/21,34,34,34/...so on...
or for online can start from 0,10 c .


cheers

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