The Very Near Perfect System!

[GLC]

This is a system that developed while I was tweaking the "Very near infallible Roulette system".  That system is way too complicated and almost impossible to play except at home with pen and paper and time.


This is an Even Chance system.


We will use the R/B even chance.


Wait until you have 2 colors in a row.  Either RR or BB.


We then bet for a change of color.  We will bet at most 6 times for the change.  If it doesn't change in 6 bets, wait until it does change to resume betting.


We are going to use a progression that is based on the "Philiberte" system found in the Monte Carlo Anecdotes.  Atlanta's progression in his latest excellent system "Matrix Trendgrabber" was also used.  It's not exact but close.


1-2-4


1-3-6


2-4-8


2-6-12


3-6-12


3-9-18


4-8-16


4-12-24


5-10-20


5-15-30


7-14-28


7-21-42


9-18-36


9-27-54


12-24-48


12-36-72


15-30-60


15-45-90


We will follow A's rules in that we stay at the same level as long as we don't lose 3 times in a row.  After each win, we return to the lowest number in the level and start again.  If we lose 3 times in a row, we move to the next level and play the same way.  Even though these numbers if added together equal a large number of units, not to worry because we will be winning as we move up the progression thus keeping our drawdowns under control.


Getting back to playing rules, as long as we are winning 1 time out of 3 betting for 2 colors in a row to change, we will stay at the 1st level.  After each win, we will wait until we have another 2 of the same color to resume betting for a chop.  If we get 6 losses in a row it will mean that the same color has hit 8 times in a row.  This will happen from time to time.


As long as we are in the 1st level, we will be in the profit accumulation mode.  In profit accumulation mode, we only bet for 2 in a row to change.  Once it changes, we wait again for 2 in a row before resuming betting for the chop.


If we lose 3 in a row at the 1st level, we will be down 7 units and will immediately move to the 2nd level of 1-3-6 and we are now in the recovery mode.  We will continue betting for a change.  When we get a change we will start betting for the chops to continue.  This is the difference between profit accumulation mode and recovery mode.


If we are in profit accumulation mode, we only bet for a streak to chop.


If we are in recovery mode, we bet for streaks to end and for chops to continue.  Our progression continues according to the betting rules no matter what mode we are in and even as we move from 1 mode to the next.


Once we are at a new level, we stay at that level until we fully recover our losses and then we drop back to level 1 and wait until we have 2 in a row to begin betting for a chop.


Here's a short example:


R   No bet
B   No bet
B   No bet but 2 in a row so bet 1 for chop
R   Win +1 in profits  Now wait for 2 in a row
B   No bet
R   No bet
R   No bet but 2 in a row so bet 1 for chop
R   Lose, bet 2 for chop
R   Lose, bet 4 for chop
B   Win +1 so (+1+1=+2) wait for 2 in a row
B   Bet 1 for chop
B   Bet 2 for chop
B   Bet 4 for chop
B   Lost 3 in a row so we are -7 and enter recovery mode and also move to the 1-3-6 level.
B   Lost 1 bet 3 for chop
R   Win +2 -7 = -5 since we are in recovery mode we start betting on chops to continue so we now bet 1 in the 2nd level of 1-3-6
B   Win +1-5 = -4  bet 1 for chops to continue
B   Lost -1-4=-5  Bet 3 for streak to chop
R   Win +3-5=-2  Bet 1 for chops to continue
B   Win +1-2=-1  Bet 1 for chops to continue
R   Win +1-1=0  We have recovered all losses, not we are back to profit accumulation mode waiting for 2 in a row to form so we can bet for it to chop and we are also back to 1st level of 1-2-4.  We are still +2 overall.  No bet yet.
B   No bet
R   No bet
R   Bet 1 for chop
B   Win +1+2=+3  No bet.  Wait for streak to form
B   Bet 1 for chop
R   Win +1+3=+4  No bet.  Still in profit accumulation mode.  Wait for streak of 2
R   Bet 1 for chop
R   Lose, bet 2 for chop
R   Lose, bet 4 for chop
B   Win  +1+4=+5 No bet.  Still in profit mode.  wait for streak
B   Streak has formed bet 1 for chop
B   lose, bet 2 for chop
B   Lose, bet 4 for chop
B   Lose, -7 go to recovery mode and level 2.  continue betting for streak to end.  Bet 1 unit, the 1st bet of level 1
B   Lose, -8 Bet bet 3 for streak to end
R   Win  +3-8=-5  bet 1 for chops to continue
B   Win  +1-5=-4  bet 1 for chops to continue
B   Lose   bet 3 for streak to end
B   Lose   bet 6 for streak to end
R   Win +3-4=-1  bet 1 for chops to continue
B   Win +1-1=0  Reset to profit accumulation mode and drop to 1st bet level.


Seems to be solid as a rock.  So far!


GLC

[Tomla021]

GLC this is EXACTLY  along the lines of the way i have been thinking!!! Best of Luck Arizona G!

[GLC]

1st tests hot off the wheel.  Single zero wheel.  BetVoyager.  Demo mode.


+10
42 spins
-7 largest drawdown


+10
63 spins
-16


+10
58 spins
-10


+10
45 spins
-7


  so far!


If this holds up with a little practice, we can play it in a live casino without pen and paper.


Of course, how can it possibly hold up? 


It does have a couple of good points.  1.  We don't bet the same pattern all the time and 2.  We don't bet every bet.


So far the games have been relatively short.  Averaging about 50 spins.  Then take a 10 minute break before starting the next attack.  The break may not add anything to whether the system wins or not, but it let's me zone out for 10 minutes or so.  Not on BV demo mode, but down at my local airball machine.

If I  hadn't been here about 50 times before, I'd be a little excited about how this is playing.

Unfortunately, I do expect it to bomb out soon.  It's a mystery why these things start out doing well and then after a while the streak from hell shows up and "Pow!  Right in the kisser!"

GLC

[mr.ore]

A great discovery made - man this is good and it is due to MISTAKE I made.

I have decided to program the progression only to test it, but I have coded it badly and I just make a step on progression if bet lose, but level at the stage if it wins, and finally level at last bet until back in profit. Reset only if new high. It won over 10k spins, and max. bet was those 90 units, WOW!

[mr.ore]

It was on no zero roulette though, as always anything good is due to mistake...
Add sensible stoploss and you have a longterm winner.

[mr.ore]

With zero and original progression as it should be.

[mr.ore]

If it is in recovery mode and some bets wins and then lose come (all on chops - ie. RBRB(B) aka WWWW(L)), but not all loses are recovered, should it wait for another two in a row before start betting again on chop, or just bet for chop until recovered? IMHO this waiting does not help much, and it is all about progression.

[mr.ore]

I want to extend the progression, I figured out that the base line for it is

1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 9, 12, 15, 19, 24, 30, 38, 48, 60, 75, 94, 118, 148, 185, ...

which is a line defined like
d(0) = 1
d(n) = round_up( q/(q-1)*d(n-1) )
for q = 5

and then stages are d(n)*1,d(n)*2,d(n)*4 and d(n)*1,d(n)*3,d(n)*6

so it would be

1, 2, 4,
1, 3, 6,
2, 4, 8,
2, 6, 12,
3, 6, 12,
3, 9, 18,
4, 8, 16,
4, 12, 24,
5, 10, 20,
5, 15, 30,
7, 14, 28,
7, 21, 42,
9, 18, 36,
9, 27, 54,
12, 24, 48,
12, 36, 72,
15, 30, 60,
15, 45, 90,
19, 38, 76,
19, 57, 114,
24, 48, 96,
24, 72, 144,
30, 60, 120,
30, 90, 180,
38, 76, 152,
38, 114, 228,
48, 96, 192,
48, 144, 288,
60, 120, 240,
60, 180, 360,
75, 150, 300,
75, 225, 450,
94, 188, 376,
94, 282, 564,
118, 236, 472,
118, 354, 708,
148, 296, 592,
148, 444, 888,
185, 370, 740,
185, 555, 1110,
and so on...

is it correct formula?

[mr.ore]

Well, I tested the progression till 450 biggest unit bet, so it is theoretically playable at many online casinos. One zero roulette. No waiting for trigger, just progression on every spin. While there was a big drawdown, it recovered within limits. Very, very risky, but probably long term winner...

[warrior]

What happens to the pattern when the 0  hits?

[mr.ore]

I tried implementing it with patterns too, and if zero hits, I ignore it and bet another step in progression. There is not much difference if we play it just a progression without any tracking/waiting at all, every spin, only it is faster.

[warrior]

So you think this could be a long term winner?

[mr.ore]

Sorry for hijacking thread, but the progression caught my interest. I tried to "reverse" it:

4,2,1,
6,3,1,
8,4,2,
12,6,2,
12,6,3,
18,9,3,
16,8,4,
24,12,4,
20,10,5,
30,15,5,
28,14,7,
42,21,7,
36,18,9,
54,27,9,
48,24,12,
72,36,12,
60,30,15,
90,45,15,

and this was accidental result on normal one-zero roulette (max. bet 90):
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It was a luck, of course, but it might be interesting info for some forum members anyway, so I put it there.

[mr.ore]

I think it can sometimes be long term winner. But for some people it will be quick loser 

[mr.ore]

It is failure, in the end. But the progression is interesting enough so that I might create greater and crazy progression and spend nice sunday afternoon (I'm having a flu and so I can't go out, I'm a sick person )